11/8/2010 - Ultimate proof exposing Raj Patel as Maitreya

reply to post by Ophiuchus 13


In Biblical terms, sheep and goats are symbolic representations of
believers and non-believers.

Sheep = believers of Christ

Goat = non-believers in Christ

reply to post by TheTruthIsFromGod


Under who's definition of "hurt" and who's definition of "own good"?

The way I see it, is humans have free will. They can hurt themselves all they want, and make their own choices, once they are fully grown.

I believe humanity is now at the stage where it has to move away from home, much like when a teenager turns 18, he/she is eased or thrust into the world to learn its ways. Humanity now has the capability to make its own decisions and to fend for itsself. Too bad too many people are stuck in the "its not my fault" stage.

The purpose of religion is not to get as many followers as you can and fear monger and stuff. Religion is something you believe in that helps you live day to day. You don't preach that to other people and force it upon people claiming they are living wrong and being ignorant.

Im sure you remember history, yes? From high school? Remember Christopher Columbus? Or the Spanish Mission system? Wiped out almost ALL of the native Americans because they believed they must FORCE their belief upon others.

Originally posted by asperetty
what is majesty? what is glory? it sounds like you derive your faith from adjectives. whats the reason? what is so special about these adjectives? why is it only correct to use these words to describe God and His will? because he is perfect? he is holy? what the hell is holy other than unique? what is unique? i'm unique in someway? am i holy? am i majestic? yes i am, in my own way that makes me special as compared to anyone else. but everyone else also has something majestic and holy about themselves which makes them special from me. so what is so special about this God? you have no reason, do you? i suggest you read this encyclical from Pope Benedict.

www.vatican.va...

just read it before you judge please. reading what he had to say almost made me christian again, because he's not blindly faithful like the rest of christianity. he knows as a result of. he can defend his faith with reason. thats basically what im asking you. how can you defend this theory on Raj, other than just say watch and accept or die?

Who can pretend to have created a single form of life in the Universe?
Have we created any planet, any animal, any seed...?
Have you created your own person?

NO NO NO

Only God has created all of this, how dare you compare yourself to God?

Yes God is full of Majesty for the beauty, perfection and wisdom of his creation,... and for an infinite number of valid reasons..... and the unfair people like you who have nothing to do with majesty.

Now, I have nothing more to say to you too.

Those who challenge God are the WORST, I let you in your perdition and no one can save you from it, except if you sincerly repent to God, God will.

reply to post by TheTruthIsFromGod


We were created in "Gods" own image. Using the definition of image, we are god.

What definition of image were you using?

Are you a creationist?

Originally posted by shiman
reply to post by TheTruthIsFromGod

 

Under who's definition of "hurt" and who's definition of "own good"?

The way I see it, is humans have free will. They can hurt themselves all they want, and make their own choices, once they are fully grown.

I believe humanity is now at the stage where it has to move away from home, much like when a teenager turns 18, he/she is eased or thrust into the world to learn its ways. Humanity now has the capability to make its own decisions and to fend for itsself. Too bad too many people are stuck in the "its not my fault" stage.

The purpose of religion is not to get as many followers as you can and fear monger and stuff. Religion is something you believe in that helps you live day to day. You don't preach that to other people and force it upon people claiming they are living wrong and being ignorant.

Im sure you remember history, yes? From high school? Remember Christopher Columbus? Or the Spanish Mission system? Wiped out almost ALL of the native Americans because they believed they must FORCE their belief upon others.

Lol, ok then if you've grown up, fly and be a God.

History at school!!! Are you kidding? You mean the fake history invented by the devils who have been losing the people for millenaries.

This is my last answer to you, you're too far... Pray God if you have a true faith, he'll help you

reply to post by TheTruthIsFromGod


Fly and be god? Well, i plan to. As soon as i get my Degree, im gonna build spaceships, thank you very much. Its high time Humans became a Space Faring race.

Written record and first person account history is the most accurate history. and that history states that more harm was done than good.

Why dont you use your "gods word" to explain what happened to the near 500,000 native americans in California before the missions system happened? Oh, lookie lookie. By the time of the gold rush, there was only about 150,000. by the end? 50,000. They didnt just Up and dissapear did they?

Originally posted by TheTruthIsFromGod

Originally posted by asperetty
what is majesty? what is glory? it sounds like you derive your faith from adjectives. whats the reason? what is so special about these adjectives? why is it only correct to use these words to describe God and His will? because he is perfect? he is holy? what the hell is holy other than unique? what is unique? i'm unique in someway? am i holy? am i majestic? yes i am, in my own way that makes me special as compared to anyone else. but everyone else also has something majestic and holy about themselves which makes them special from me. so what is so special about this God? you have no reason, do you? i suggest you read this encyclical from Pope Benedict.

www.vatican.va...

just read it before you judge please. reading what he had to say almost made me christian again, because he's not blindly faithful like the rest of christianity. he knows as a result of. he can defend his faith with reason. thats basically what im asking you. how can you defend this theory on Raj, other than just say watch and accept or die?

Who can pretend to have created a single form of life in the Universe?
Have we created any planet, any animal, any seed...?
Have you created your own person?

NO NO NO

Only God has created all of this, how dare you compare yourself to God?

Yes God is full of Majesty for the beauty, perfection and wisdom of his creation,... and for an infinite number of valid reasons..... and the unfair people like you who have nothing to do with majesty.

Now, I have nothing more to say to you too.

Those who challenge God are the WORST, I let you in your perdition and no one can save you from it, except if you sincerly repent to God, God will.

edit on 8-11-2010 by TheTruthIsFromGod because: spell

... and for an infinite number of valid reasons.....

you almost answered my question that time. atm i am a doubtful Christian, and i thought since you seemed to be a devoted one, you might be able to help me understand God a little better, but all you have done is shown me why a God could not exist or if he does that you have simply misunderstood him. if God asked you why you are so devoted to him, why you love him, what do you think you would say? that he is majestic and glorious and holy? how do adjectives give reason to anything? adjectives only make the reason tangible to me, but if the reason is missing in the first place, then you're just kissing ass by speaking with your mouth full of honey. what about for us? i dont understand how a person of god can be so ignorant of men? its like you feed off the hypocrisy of the Christian God. You care about the souls of men, yet you don't? you're limited man. you're devotion to God is limited. and that's all because you don't know your reasons. you must not have read the encyclical. you're like an elementary student talking about politics, you only know red from blue. and when anyone asks you to elaborate, you say no its red and blue take it or leave it like any other uninformed person under scrutiny.

Originally posted by shiman
reply to post by TruthSeeker8300

 

Even the Bible speaks of "god" in the third person and as if there are more than one. "Created in our own image". Not third person, but how many are there? And that seems to contradict that there is only one God, mentioned many other times in the bible. more like there are three. So it turns out christians aren't monotheists at all. Their polytheists.

That has stumped me for quite some time.

Devout Christians will say it's the Trinity. Hard to swallow since the events in Genesis predate the birth of Christ by thousands of years.

Some say the reference is to angels. I don't think God would equate himself with angels and besides, the plural is used in Genesis even before there is any mention of the creation of angels (Genesis 2:22 - "And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of Us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever).

Us.

It's used again and again...and I have never received a satisfactory explanation from clergy, books or anywhere else for that matter.

Originally posted by Riffrafter

Originally posted by shiman
reply to post by TruthSeeker8300

 

Even the Bible speaks of "god" in the third person and as if there are more than one. "Created in our own image". Not third person, but how many are there? And that seems to contradict that there is only one God, mentioned many other times in the bible. more like there are three. So it turns out christians aren't monotheists at all. Their polytheists.

That has stumped me for quite some time.

Devout Christians will say it's the Trinity. Hard to swallow since the events in Genesis predate the birth of Christ by thousands of years.

Some say the reference is to angels. I don't think God would equate himself with angels and besides, the plural is used in Genesis even before there is any mention of the creation of angels (Genesis 2:22 - "And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of Us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever).

Us.

It's used again and again...and I have never received a satisfactory explanation from clergy, books or anywhere else for that matter.

devout christians believe that Christ and the holy spirt are eternal and were here in the beginning and were part of the creation process with God the father

reply to post by TheTruthIsFromGod

You call names instead of trying to debunk what I said. You prove my point perfectly.
You are a very confused person.
And you don't even know where the Koran, that you are pushing onto people, came from.
I gave you facts. But you embrace lies.
To use words you use and might understand -
Satan is the father of lies ..... and you are following lies which makes you a follower of Satan.
I pity you. Really I do. :shk:

Originally posted by TruthSeeker8300
Is the God of Islam schizophrenic? ]

The FAUX-God of the Koran is. That's because those who invented Islam wrote the Koran by stealing bits and pieces from the Pagans, the Catholics, and the Jews. They mish-mashed it together and sprinkled it with misogeny and strange sexist perversions.

Most obvious thing about the Qu'ran - God didn't dictate it. Through the Qu'ran 'god' swears by/to himself. He says "I swear ...' 'by thy lord' ... etc etc Then there are the tons of contradictions. The thing is full of them. David didn't write the psalms .. they came from Ancient Egypt and the hymns of Akenaton to his pagan sun god. Noahs are didn't happen and that story was stolen from the Summerians. It's got the devil living in the human nose. It totally screws up timelines and has the mother of Jesus as living in the time of Moses. And the biggie ... Abraham never reached Mecca. He didn't build the Kaaba. That's absurd.

Bottom line ... TheTruthIsFromGod is just pumping out bad theology and is just calling people names when it is proven that the theology is bad.

Originally posted by TheTruthIsFromGod
Read the Koran and obey it.

HELL NO. That's the worst advice anyone could be getting.
Women are worth less then men. Women should not receive the same inheritence as men. Beat women. Women are worth less than slaves. Women need 4 witness's to a rape in order to prove that they are the victim and not the guilty party. An afterlife that is horribly worldly ... a giant sex orgy for men and an eternity of 'servicing' men is all the women would have to look forward to. Being a whore in heaven forever. Not exactly uplifting or spiritual. It's a pathetic male oriented mess made up by men who were afraid of women and who just wanted control over them. It's NOT a religion from God .. it's a cult based upon the male sex organ.

Originally posted by TheTruthIsFromGod
Those who think they are smarter than God and judge God/Allah whereas they are the true criminals are the worst ones.

And there is your problem. You believe that God wrote the Qu'ran. He didn't. It's just that simple. God had NOTHING to do with the creation of Islam. Absolutely nothing. It was invented by a mad man who faked 'revelations' in order to gain political power. Muhammad was a murderer and a thief. He was a pervert. He is responsible for starting a cult that has murdered millions of people and destroyed ancient and vital civilizations.

It is SMART to judge the Qu'ran and see that it isn't from God. By using our god given brains and seeing that it is not from heaven, a person doesn't judge God, they judge a freak'n BOOK and the obviously faux-prophet that pretended to hear God's voice.

Originally posted by shiman
My point is, Raj Patel is not "Maitreya". There is no "Maitreya" because that is just another object used to create fear and is used as just another focal point for falsely placed responsibility

Exactly.

Originally posted by TheTruthIsFromGod
Once again you illustrate your unjustice and ignorance.

You might want to stop throwing stones in a glass house. Your continual pushing of the Qu'ran, and your threats about punishment if people don't buy that load of obvious crap .... that's illustrating YOUR unjustice and ignorance.

Originally posted by TheTruthIsFromGod
Those who challenge God are the WORST, I let you in your perdition and no one can save you from it, except if you sincerly repent to God, God will.

1 - Islam isn't from God. Neither is the Qu'ran.
2 - your continual threats to people who are smart enough to see through the quackery of the Quran are really sad. Believe in a load of bunk or face damnation .. that's what you are saying.

Wow, this again? How many times are you going to propagate these fear mongering stories? If I had to take a guess, I would say this Raj guy must of stole your GF from you, as you are bent on destroying his character.

Anyways, again, Maitreya is the future Buddha who will arrive when all of Gautama Buddha's teachings are lost. Benjermen Creme is simply using (stealing) this story to further his New Age religion movement in the west. Some have even postulated that he is a vatican plant set on spreading disinfo about Buddhism's ancient knowledge, because it is the fastest growing religion in the west currently. Either way it is irrelevant nonsense.

I do not expect that a bunch of New Agers, who think that they are Gods, to confirm that I am saying the Truth. If you've read the Koran you'll recognize yourselves and your remarks in plenty of verses describing the people who are fated to hell. The people like you will never accept the Truth, they will persist in their perdition and unjustice until they see the flames of hell.

Your remarks are actually illustrating what I am saying, you're all contradicting yourselves, each one of you lost in his own perdition.

You've brought nothing except perdition and blind denial, contrary to you, I've brought a serie of 29 episodes which contains only Truth, you're not even able to deny any of the elements that I quote in my series, you're just able to deny and to insult, but I am not angry at you, not at all, because you're only harming yourself, not me nor the true believers.

Raj Patel, the vessel of Satan, Gog and Magog are precisely here to harvest people like you... enjoy your life, the time is short for you.

Originally posted by Riffrafter

Originally posted by shiman
reply to post by TruthSeeker8300

 

Even the Bible speaks of "god" in the third person and as if there are more than one. "Created in our own image". Not third person, but how many are there? And that seems to contradict that there is only one God, mentioned many other times in the bible. more like there are three. So it turns out christians aren't monotheists at all. Their polytheists.

That has stumped me for quite some time.

Devout Christians will say it's the Trinity. Hard to swallow since the events in Genesis predate the birth of Christ by thousands of years.

Some say the reference is to angels. I don't think God would equate himself with angels and besides, the plural is used in Genesis even before there is any mention of the creation of angels (Genesis 2:22 - "And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of Us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever).

Us.

It's used again and again...and I have never received a satisfactory explanation from clergy, books or anywhere else for that matter.

The solution is quite simple. Recognize first that the English mistranslations of some of the Names of God create confusion. The Hebrew word here is "Elohim," one of the Names of God. But "Elohim" is also the name of a class of angel. Genesis 2:22 and 2:26 are referring to this class of angel, not to God. Rabbis and fundamentalist Christians tie themselves in knots trying to reconcile the English mistranslation with the notion of a single God. The truth is: God created the angels and the angels designed humans in the spiritual realm.

Originally posted by TheTruthIsFromGod
I do not expect that a bunch of New Agers, who think that they are Gods, to confirm that I am saying the Truth. If you've read the Koran you'll recognize yourselves and your remarks in plenty of verses describing the people who are fated to hell. The people like you will never accept the Truth, they will persist in their perdition and unjustice until they see the flames of hell.

Your remarks are actually illustrating what I am saying, you're all contradicting yourselves, each one of you lost in his own perdition.

You've brought nothing except perdition and blind denial, contrary to you, I've brought a serie of 29 episodes which contains only Truth, you're not even able to deny any of the elements that I quote in my series, you're just able to deny and to insult, but I am not angry at you, not at all, because you're only harming yourself, not me nor the true believers.

Raj Patel, the vessel of Satan, Gog and Magog are precisely here to harvest people like you... enjoy your life, the time is short for you.

Not to sound like Meg Whitman here, but that is a typical blind-faith devout Christian response. You are faced with a question you cannot answer so you call me a "new ager"(wtf is that?) and "blind" and that im in "denial". I predict next you will be throwing unrelated bible/quaran quotes at me.

I have not insulted you yet. Quote me where i have, and i will show you how it is not an insult.

"True Believers" is up for interpretation. and clearly, yours is the most twisted. Truth is not something you base upon blind faith alone. Truth is something that has evidence to back it up. evidence you have not shown.

Raj Patel, a man, not a demon, or a satan, is waking the earth. Like the other 6 billion humans and who knows how many aliens. Nothing special there.

Oh, and what has Raj done to piss you off so? Has he stolen your gf like the one poster suggested? I do not see anything wrong with him.

EDIT: And dont say that i am blind and cannot see what is wrong with him. You need to show evidence/proof. Solid.

another double post. where do they come from?

reply to post by Riffrafter


Yahweh is Elohim, We are all sons of God and in turn Elohim. God (Elohim) used in a singular fashion is God himself but when its used in plural fashion it means the rest of the gods that sat in the Divine council at that time.

(Elohim means Divine being!!!!)

The three verses among many that prove it.

Psalm 82.1 God presides in the great assembly;
he renders judgment among the “gods”:

6 “I said, ‘You are “gods”;
you are all sons of the Most High.’

7 But you will die like mere mortals;
you will fall like every other ruler.”

www.biblegateway.com...

Well there is 4 minutes of my life I will never get back. Everyone knows that Rush Limbaugh is the Anti Christ and Glen Beck his Disciple. All present day brimstoners know their catechism:

The seven levels of hell : ABC, NBC,CBS,CNN, CNBC, MSNBC, and taking the #7 spot, FOX NEWS.

The seven deadly sins: liberty, justice, independence, patriotism, individualism, Christianity, and freedom.

The Lord's Prayer: Our father who art in Washington, Obama be thou name, Though deficits come, thy spending be done, on those who did not produce it.
Give us this day, our daily bread (for we have not earned it) ...

The sun and earth are the life lines of humanity.. If either of these places fail we are all doomed. My god, the sun is telling me he is angry and if we dont stop destroying the earth, he will destroy us and the Earth.

If it involves religion, it's a sham.

It's mythology, not reality. There's quite a difference

Yawn, Ben Creme and his maitreya fellow are a joke... are you honestly still scared of them? I don't know how many fail predictions have come out of Creme, its almost uncountable, everytime he claims maitreya is going to reveal himself to the world or whatever... nothing happens and theres some lame excuse for delay. Its been going on for 10+ years now lol.. Who cares if this guy is who Creme claims as "maitreya" because that just makes him another loonie with delusions of grandeur. This Raj guy hasn't done jack all in terms of conquering or teaching the world or w/e and its pretty hard to imagine him going from where he is now, some minor minor celeb speaker/writer, to some world leader/antichrist/maitreya w/e.

Your numerology crap was a massive joke as all numerology is... seriously... you even use freaking binary to get your magic numbers, you can add subtract etc your way to almost any number you want, as you do, it's evidence of nothing except you are grasping at straws and so lacking evidence that you have to resort to such obviously bunk mumbo jumbo. Not to mention you're selecting dates from blogs and articles which fit into your number scheme... whereas ignoring all the other dates of blogs and articles you can find by him that don't... so how the hell does that prove anything.... Its not like those dates are the only time hes ever made blog posts/articles w/e... wtf.. all your proving is some dates along a timeline can be mixed up to make some number you want..

All modern religions are a sham based on old religions and myths which were created by men who had no way to explain things like comets and the sun etc so they created gods and religion. Even your own video demonstrates this citing egyptian gods and what not... yet the religions which give you the concept of maitreya/antichrist say there is only 1 god and all other religions are false etc.. so which is it gonna be? You can't have it both ways. You're only fooling yourself. There is no antichrist, there is no maitreya.