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M16 with Serbu question

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posted on Jun, 29 2004 @ 10:38 AM
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Is this gun (M16 with Serbu) used in any armies?



www.hatchergun.com...

I thought it might be something a civilian had made but it looks very professional and I didn't think civilians could get M16s.


Also, if it isn't used, would it be useful?

[edit on 29/6/04 by Hyperen]



posted on Jun, 29 2004 @ 10:55 AM
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are you sure it's an m-16? there are plenty of m-16 'clones' available easily on the civilian market.

-koji K.

[edit on 29-6-2004 by koji_K]



posted on Jun, 29 2004 @ 10:59 AM
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i think i've seen american troops with the M16 part of the gun, not the shotgun part though


E_T

posted on Jun, 29 2004 @ 11:17 AM
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I would think it as civilian made.

It doesn't look this:



posted on Jun, 29 2004 @ 01:37 PM
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Originally posted by koji_K
are you sure it's an m-16? there are plenty of m-16 'clones' available easily on the civilian market.

Well it says on the site that it is a

M-16w/SBS
and an

NFA Firearm



posted on Jun, 29 2004 @ 02:41 PM
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Civillians can obtain and legally own M-16 TYPE weapons, but unless he/she holds a class 3 federal firearms license the fully automatic version is not legal...

as to the weapon pictured I think its some kind of joke because ergonomically it would be like wrestling an octopus...look at it...it has 3 pistol grips, the most forward being some 30+ inches from the buttstock
a user of low stature would have a difficult time to say the least to recharge the weapon after firing, IMHO...I doubt this particular weapon has seen any viable military use.
CP



posted on Jun, 29 2004 @ 11:46 PM
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It is a class III weapon regardless because the shotgun is sawed off. I have read about these, but don't see much use in one, US Army uses either a Mossberg or Remington pump shotgun. (The one on the rifle is a Remington).



posted on Jun, 30 2004 @ 12:00 AM
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Reminds me of that gun the Indian guy in the predator movie used same concept with a shotgun under a M-16/AR-15 I know a guy that lives by me that has a shotgun a mossberg 500 with a MAC10 on it for the front grip it pretty wierd looking.



posted on Jun, 30 2004 @ 01:35 AM
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Sorry Wudman...thats no remington...its a serbu shorty



posted on Jun, 30 2004 @ 02:00 AM
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Sorry, look at the bolt. That is a Remington. This is a Serbu Shorty:



See the differences in the bolt and the trigger guard?

[edit on 30-6-2004 by Wudman]



posted on Jun, 30 2004 @ 02:04 AM
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That is a serbu SUPER shorty the reciever is based on a M'berg a remington has more takedown pins


Also the remington safety is in the trigger group

[edit on 30-6-2004 by cyberpilot]


WHOA big fella!, I apologize Wudman...I confused my 1100 with my 870

the shorty is built on a 870 anvil.... but the super is indeed a M'berg

[edit on 30-6-2004 by cyberpilot]



posted on Jun, 30 2004 @ 02:11 AM
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Are shotguns like that classifed as Destructive device like the USAS-12 or the Striker-12 or Streetsweeper?



posted on Jun, 30 2004 @ 11:31 AM
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Shotguns like this are classified as Class III weapons under the National Firearms Act of 1934. Barrel length has to be at least 18 inches and total shotgun length has to be at least 26 inches for it to not be a NFA gun.



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