Jon Stewart doesn't understand the Constitution or Bill of Rights

im tired of gaming with kids who do it cause its popular to them and who express their notion of pop culture in games that are mature rated. i think its good from a gaming perspective (this law) as someone whos not 12 and wants to think i can send friend invites to someone 30 or older because i played call of duty with them and they were good players. im kind of ranting because the topic is as immature as american politics and criminal justice and its legal system has become. i mean if a game is rated mature i guess enough people convinced their mothers and the supreme court that because their 12 year old friends mom can buy them a mature rated game that is has to be illegal that california is making it a crime to sell a game thats rated mature to someone that obviously is.

and why does a law have to fall back on the bill of rights and constitution for its validity? if a person raises their hand and swears or believes in the principle of their new duty is the law they create and laws they veto not in legal standing with the "constitution and bill of rights"?

reply to post by mryanbrown


Because a game is a video game is a form of media.

Which is a form of expression.

Which is a form of speech.

What is misunderstood? Do you understand that a legal precedent will give more and more room to ban more forms of speech, which video games are.

Maybe we can ban Fox News or MSNBC by your logic, because THAT is a corporation.

I think you just want to bash Stewart while expressing your own misunderstanding of free speech.

John Stewart is a bought and paid for elite lap-dog, pseudo-intellectual mascot for the self-involved mad-libs. You know the type that are convinced that they are way more intelligent than everyone else and spend their time crapping on everybody else, yet they have no real grasp on what is really going on in the world because they just regurgitate what they hear on MSNBC or from said hollywood mascots? Yeah, that's him...

BTW- before one of those type of liberal folks jumps in here and adds an obligatory attack on right wing values or tea baggers lol, to put me in my place. Which really just proves that I'm correct, that they really don't know anything about what is really going on, the Republicans and Tea-Partiers are just as ignorant. Bam!

Truth is, they all need to be flushed and need to start over. We are all Americans. We all deserve our freedom as long as we don't infringe on another's rights. We need to learn to work together. And we need to educate the masses of the truth. And the truth is that partisan sniping only helps the powers that be.

And John is one of them. I know this because he is too smart to not know the truth and yet he has never once talked about the real truth. Just like all the other talking heads, he is part of the problem not the solution.

Whether you consider yourself "right" or "left" we are all free, peace loving human beings, and the people at the top of every one of the political parties, Democratic, Republican, Tea Party, etc, are on the same side. That side is not our side mind you. Don't fall for their false paradigm.

If you don't like him, just change the channel to something else. I like Stewart and Colbert, they have common sense, which some people can't handle. Sounds like Stewart may have offended one of your little beliefs and now you are looking for a way, anyway, to make him look bad by pointing out something he said about video games. I don't think the courts should even get invoved with video games. It's a game.

reply to post by sbc650mike


Yes, he did offend one of my beliefs. My belief that incestuous rape is not a laughing matter. My belief that corporations are not people. And many more. Once you look past the surface humor, you see him for what he is.

reply to post by mryanbrown


Tosh.0 ever insult your sensibilities? How about Sout Park or Drawn Together? Any of those cheesy roasts ever make you cringe? It is Comedy Central for Christmas sakes!!!! Is this really how perfect people's lives are going that we need to go looking to comedy central for people to protest over the legality of selling video games to minors? Really? How about you take it up with the people writing the laws? How about the politicians pushing such a measure? Why the hell would you take it up with Comedy Central? Anything on E! you need to get uspet over? How does Kim Kardashian come down on abortion? Does Ryan Seacrest believe in the right to bear arms? I have to ask if The Soup holds true to the beliefs of our founding fathers. Can you tell me?

This thread amazes me. It quite literally has me stunned and that is saying a lot given the 3423 birther threads going over the exact same crap there are here.

reply to post by mryanbrown


Incestuous rape isn't funny, but I know I've heard many people make fun of "red necks" and "hillbillies" bangin their cousins/ sisters. Could it maybe have been a joke? I hate corporations as much as the next person, but who would regulate the "speech" in video games? Our lovely government? I agree to disagree.

reply to post by Curiousisall


"Gonna go off on a rant now because you insulted one of my favorite comedians? Gonna hope to get a couple stars by deflecting from the issues? Gonna try to see how many ridiculous questions you can ask? Gonna try and fight for the rights of soulless entities? Gonna sacrifice your own rights in favor of those who take from you? Yeah? Gonna ignore the intended scope of government and claim I'm twisting fascist rulings to 'fit' my argument?"

If you lack the capacity to answer any of the previously mentioned questions, yet claim that I'm the ignorant one. Then let me ask you this, why do you persist?

Obviously you don't do so out of my ignorance.

reply to post by sbc650mike


The issue in question is one of my previous threads. It was not taken out of context. He was discussing "Precious" with the director. Which if you don't know is a movie about an obese black girl, raped by her father multiple times, and impregnated twice. Her children were taken from her, and her mother knew of this and allowed it to happen in the hopes that it would make her husband want to stay with her. And meanwhile the girl is having some type of psychotic episodes where she dream's she's a pretty little white girl.

It is the new type of "free expression" that is perverting society. The type of material people would have suggested burning and banning back in the day. But oh no how dare you conservatives even suggest you destroy something with absolutely no artistic value or merit. We liberals respect the right to push simulated child pornography and dissociative coping techniques.

The director quite literally stated that he used fantasy and comedy to tell the story. Before going into a rant about celestial alignment and fate.

Read between the rather apparent lines.

reply to post by mryanbrown


WOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

Either you did not see that interview and this is the way someone interpreted it for you or you should not be allowed to watch television unsupervised any longer.

Originally posted by mryanbrown
reply to post by Curiousisall

 

"Gonna go off on a rant now because you insulted one of my favorite comedians? Gonna hope to get a couple stars by deflecting from the issues? Gonna try to see how many ridiculous questions you can ask? Gonna try and fight for the rights of soulless entities? Gonna sacrifice your own rights in favor of those who take from you? Yeah? Gonna ignore the intended scope of government and claim I'm twisting fascist rulings to 'fit' my argument?"

If you lack the capacity to answer any of the previously mentioned questions, yet claim that I'm the ignorant one. Then let me ask you this, why do you persist?

Obviously you don't do so out of my ignorance.

I know you think what you wrote sounds like intelligent and well thought out witty "writing" but it is really just nonsense. You kind of stop making sense about halfway through the first paragraph and trust me, I know what the words themselves mean. What question answering capacity do I lack? What the hell are you talking about? Why are you accusing me of deflection in a post that is one big personal attack against me? I do not even know how to begin to address what you just stated. I do not have the capacity to answer the questions that I asked you???? What???? I asked if Tosh.0 offends you. You mean I do not have the capacity to answer that question myself? Well no, I cannot answer as to whether or not something offends you so I guess you got me there. Honestly, turn of the tv and the scary little man in the box will not hurt you any more.

reply to post by Curiousisall


Apparently you haven't seen it and are just making the assumption that I haven't. Because I've obviously seen it, I have it timestamped and transcript-ed in some portions.

But really, whatever helps you...

1. Thread crap
2. Rant
3. Push your hidden urge to "self express"
4. Ignore adult points
5. Avoid any type of civil discussion
6. Fail to reason your amazing legal thoughts
7. Actually reply with anything of value

"Well I feel the same about you" yeah yeah. Oh well?

Do you know who often looks the greater fool? A person who jumps into a lake to tell others they are wet.

reply to post by mryanbrown


The video games are made by people and can be used to put forth a message. A good example would be the game Bioshock, which had a great bit in which there was a commentary about the philosophical nature of following orders, particularly in video games.

It's a storytelling medium that has yet to mature properly. We're getting the same scare tactics about video games that we were getting about comic books when "The Seduction of the Innocent" came out. Now at least one graphic novel has some level of consideration as one of the great books of all time.

And of all the people to not understand the Constitution or the Bill of Rights, I'd say you're wrong in pointing at Jon Stewart. He's the only media personality that I see consistently demonstrate a position on the issue.


Anyway, the bottom line is that video games are an artistic media. We don't have a ban on mature music being sold to children, though there is industry self-regulation about its sale. We don't have a ban on selling mature films to children, though there is industry self-regulation on their sale. We don't need to have the government banning video games from sale to children, the industry will prevent it from happening. Why? It's in their best interest not to piss off the parents.

Originally posted by mryanbrown
reply to post by Curiousisall

 

Apparently you haven't seen it and are just making the assumption that I haven't. Because I've obviously seen it, I have it timestamped and transcript-ed in some portions.

I have indeed seen it and you need to go watch it to learn two important things.

1. John Stewart did not write the book so you cannot blame him for humor being part of the book.
2. The author explained quite well why he used humor in that story and it was a damn good reason.

Given your statements, you apparently missed those key points.

But really, whatever helps you...

1. Thread crap
2. Rant
3. Push your hidden urge to "self express"
4. Ignore adult points
5. Avoid any type of civil discussion
6. Fail to reason your amazing legal thoughts
7. Actually reply with anything of value

"Well I feel the same about you" yeah yeah. Oh well?

Do you know who often looks the greater fool? A person who jumps into a lake to tell others they are wet.

You start a thread complaining about what John Stewart has said (his 1st amendment right and all) about video games as something important and expect to be taken seriously?

reply to post by madnessinmysoul


I believe being an advocate to the liberal interpretation of the Constitution for a secular society is position. One I disagree with. Especially in regards to blindly accepting what the Supreme Court says as total law. There is a reason why there are 3 branches. To balance one another, not argue between the two and let the 3rd get the final word.

But besides that. To the industry regulation. Games are regulated essentially the same as movies. With the exception that I believe they now check ID sometimes at R movies. Yet children are capable of buying games rated above their maturity.

So I'm curious how you think the industry will self regulate when the system of establishing age limits is in play, but not enforced. You ultimately need type of grassroots campaign to establish negative PR against a company selling graphic material to children to force them to overcome the profit motive and refuse the sale. I just don't see it happening. (Not enough GTA games to make moms mad)

@ Curious

Be honest, did I insult one of your threads under another account and this is your revenge? Just badger a thread you think is pointless?

"I think this thread is stupid and pointless, watch as I continue to participate." (This is more or less what you're doing)

1. Never said he did.
2. No he didn't the movie was most absolutely NOT a comedy to any degree. (Helps to have some type of context when you make assumptions)

There is absolutely nothing comedic about incestuous child rape. The fact you can even agree with the director's alleged attempt use of comedy but more shockingly his use of FANTASY really just speaks volumes.

Originally posted by mryanbrown
@ Curious

Be honest, did I insult one of your threads under another account and this is your revenge? Just badger a thread you think is pointless?

I am not sure. How many other accounts do you have?
Maybe because this is about the 4th thread in less than a week to bash something on Comedy Central for its political position. To me, that is not only pointless, it is INSANE. Have you ever watched the channel?

"I think this thread is stupid and pointless, watch as I continue to participate." (This is more or less what you're doing)

"Comedy Central has a deep political agenda and John Stewart is trying to destroy America, watch as I go write a thread about it as if it mattered at all" (This is more or less what you are doing) I find it fascinating. Did I not already mention how interesting I find this thread? I am pretty sure I did.

1. Never said he did.

You said that John Stewart made a joke out of incest and explained it by saying it was what his guest said that bothered you. So if he did not direct the movie, that was his gues, and he did not write the book, as you just confirmed with me, how is it his fault again?

2. No he didn't the movie was most absolutely NOT a comedy to any degree. (Helps to have some type of context when you make assumptions)

I never said the movie was a comedy anywhere in any of my posts. It really really helps if you pay attention.

There is absolutely nothing comedic about incestuous child rape. The fact you can even agree with the director's alleged attempt use of comedy but more shockingly his use of FANTASY really just speaks volumes.

All it really says is that I actually saw the interview and paid attention to what was actually said. His reasoning for the way he portrayed things was not only sound but it worked beautifully onscreen.

Originally posted by Curiousisall
I am not sure. How many other accounts do you have?

The one, but I imagine you have several.

"Comedy Central has a deep political agenda and John Stewart is trying to destroy America, watch as I go write a thread about it as if it mattered at all"

At least you can finally agree with me.

You said that John Stewart made a joke out of incest and explained it by saying it was what his guest said that bothered you. So if he did not direct the movie, that was his gues, and he did not write the book, as you just confirmed with me, how is it his fault again?

Oh so there's nothing wrong with laughing at child rape? That says a little more than before.

I never said the movie was a comedy anywhere in any of my posts.

It really really helps if you pay attention.

2. The author explained quite well why he used humor in that story and it was a damn good reason.

(This right here, that whole ignoring what you just wrote thing. Yeah...)

but it worked beautifully onscreen.

That quote, in addition to what appears to be your defense of "self expression" says more than I need to. Have a good day.

Originally posted by mryanbrown
The one, but I imagine you have several.

I actually take that accusation kind of seriously and considering I was just accused of being logged on 24/7 yesterday, you are going to need to put something behind that. I am real sorry if I hurt your feelings but I have yet to accuse you of actually doing something wrong. You better be able to back this up with something and I know you cannot so I am oh so eager to see what you come up with.

reply to post by Curiousisall


Sorry but it's rather impossible to prove opinions as fact. They're sticky that way. In all fairness to your rant against my "serious accusation". You did infer the same in turn.

Originally posted by mryanbrown
reply to post by Curiousisall

 

Sorry but it's rather impossible to prove opinions as fact. They're sticky that way. In all fairness to your rant against my "serious accusation". You did infer the same in turn.

Are you ok? Honestly and I really mean that. Are you? You just say something like that for no good reason and when I ask why you cower down and then accuse me of laying it at your feet "in all fairness?" Uh no. You accused me of something and I tried to blow it off as a joke since YOU SAID IT. Then you said it again.

BACK IT UP.

I am really sorry that Precious bothered you on such a deep level that you have been wating all this time just to get revenge on John Stewart for giving the director the chance to say that he used humor and then give an explanation you apparently missed but that does not excuse you turning this into a direct personal attack.

Do not accuse me of something if you do not have the intestinal fortitude to stand behind and explain why you would say it. Get over comedy central. You got confused by something on a comedy channel and let it anger you for about year or more now? Maybe I am wrong. John Stewart is an idiot and Precious was a terrible movie. I am going to watch everyone come agree with you while I wait for you to back up your accusation.