Lampshade made from Human Skin, Hitler!!

The idea that you could take somebody's skin and make a household object out of it is just so appalling, Shocking and terrifying.

This is what we are capable of !!


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very strange blaenau, and that lady llse koch was one strange lady useing humans for craft no wounder she killed herself , and then the lamp was stolen by looters i dont blame the bloke that he felt bad i dont think i could have something in my house like that

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The idea that you could take somebody's skin and make a household object out of it is just so appalling, Shocking and terrifying.

Is an external C&P.
Please make it an external Quote :3

What?The link is right underneath the quote?

Can you please concentrate on the post? I put to you that people were murdered and then their skin used to make lampshades?

And you moan about no quote? I am new to this site but so far after a few posts realised quickly some people on here have a type of superiority complex.

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I moan that you put NO EFFORT into saying ANYTHING about what you thought about it.
You think that it's morally wrong to do something like that,
but you didn't say it.


Unless of course the people on that site are directly quoting YOU,
then my appologies

Originally posted by Anttyk47
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I moan that you put NO EFFORT into saying ANYTHING about what you thought about it.
You think that it's morally wrong to do something like that,
but you didn't say it.


Unless of course the people on that site are directly quoting YOU,
then my appologies

edit on 5-11-2010 by Anttyk47 because: (no reason given)

Read the quote again, I have added my thoughts?
Shocking and Terrifying, that us humans are capable of this?

Did you not read it properly, I am not retalliating to you no more, I had this on another post, dont know what it is with people on this board.

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I've been on "this board" for a month. Not even.
I'm just saying, it seems like you didn't really put any effort into saying what you felt about this, two words really doesn't contribute much if you're speaking from the heart.

Honestly not everyone is going to jump on the
"Omg this is horrible, lets talk about how horrible this is" train.
If you told me something like...
How you felt in a little bit of actual detail,
or even
If this impacted you
or even
If you were lucky enough to stumble on here, and felt that this is something that should be shared.

Oh sorry,
We're all supposed to be brainwashed, it just depends what side you're on,
My appologies, i'll fill the role now.


"Wow this is horrible! I can't believe people did that!"

Wow this is horrible! I can't believe people did that.

I find it interesting that a cemetery robber is the one that hadit. I find it interesting that it was found in Louisiana where black magic is popular. Although I find it disgusting that the skin of a human being could be used as an everyday object, I don't think they will ever be able to definitively prove that it was from the holocaust. Could be from a hitchiker as the article said, but in any case, it's disturbing.

Didn't the world already OMG at this ?

I think it's pretty macabre to do this, (thats not a C&P by the way! Nyah!) and I cannot imagine reading my favourite book by the light of someone elses dead skin pallidness..

However if I ever lost a large limb... well, then I might be enticed for the shock value of it

I'm more horrified at the torture and brutality of the holocaust in general than I am at making lampshades out of human flesh. The Nazi love of eugenics, testing of twins, deciding to gas chamber innocent people, especially little ones, etc. is absolutely gruesome and appalling.

This Lampshade needs to be destroyed, just the thought of what happened in the process of this Lampshade makes my blood curl. Yes how barbaric and brutal the Nazis were, to think this isnt that long back either, the human race still has a long way to go.

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Do you really think it should be destroyed though? Its the old saying isnt it, 'if we forget it, then we are doomed to repeat it', shouldnt it be kept as a reminder of the horrer and brutality than the human race is capable of, even though all we really want to do is destroy it and never see it again.

Originally posted by badw0lf
Didn't the world already OMG at this ?

Yea I thought this was common knowledge of some of the nasty things the nazis did. Kind of weird that this thing has been in circulation since then, you would think that the skin would break down, become brittle and rot away.

Somebody must have been putting the lotion on its skin.

Me thoughts on this:

Lampshade made out of skin, was very normal....

For the person/people who did it. 1940 Nazi's aren't 2010 Internet user, OF COURSE WE'RE GONNA FEEL DIFFERENT ABOUT IT.
I personally think it's gross.

But destroying it, is wrong.

It's like.. what if we(humans) in 2080 started feeling like destroying monuments like the pyramids, because they're eye sores, and humans don't like eye sores. We evolved into beings of making the world entirely flat. We chop mountians flat.

Idk just using some imagination. You like destroying history? Great, that's what you would be doing.

Lets destroy all video evidence of 9/11 because people jumped out of the towers.
Yeah it's horrible people did that, so we shouldn't relive it.

But you must must must keep in mind, that someone thought it was sane, and they don't have (most of) our mindsets that we do today.

Would we watch people murder each other in a pit day after day?
I think most would say no,
but... people agreed to it in roman times.

Would we have slavery happen again?
I think most would say no,
but... people for centuries agreed to it.

Then fit lampshade into the equation.

Would we have peoples skin turned into lampshades?
I think most would say no,
but... the Nazi's agreed to it.

Occasionally you hear about human-skin lampshades in private collections. I won't claim to have surveyed the field, but I did speak to Norm Sauer, a professor of forensic anthropology at Michigan State University. Professor Sauer was part of a team of experts that a few years ago examined a number of alleged human souvenirs that had been donated to the Holocaust Memorial Center, now located in Farmington Hills, MI. Among the items were a lampshade (and it really was a lampshade, consisting of panels on a wire frame), two chess sets, and a bar of soap, along with some collections of ashes, bone fragments, and so on. Although some of the bone fragments did appear to be human, most and possibly all of the household objects were not. The chess sets were made of animal but not human bone; the lampshade possibly was deer or goat but not human skin. Tests of the soap were inconclusive. (The alleged practice of rendering human fat into soap is a story unto itself; the common opinion now seems to be that while it may have been made experimentally once, human soap was never produced in quantity.) You never know what will turn up, but without tests, don't assume that just because a lampshade or other item is claimed to be of human origin, it is.

Source

From all I've been able to come across about this, my thinking is that this lampshade was probably made of deer skin and that the human skin rumor is simply legend/meme.

~Heff

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Lets hope so, I couldnt get my head around a reason why they would do this?
As the Nazis were hidding all evidence of the Mass murders, So I couldnt understand the motive?

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I am ashamed to admit Karl Koch is an ancestor of mine. On my fathers side, he was my fathers second cousin.

Originally posted by Hefficide

From all I've been able to come across about this, my thinking is that this lampshade was probably made of deer skin and that the human skin rumor is simply legend/meme.

~Heff

He had it DNA tested.

Bever said Bode would attempt, but not guarantee, to identify the mitochondrial DNA, for a fee of $5,000. "The report came back on 20 April 2007," Jacobson says. "It found a 100 per cent probability that the profile was human. Two human profiles were found, one major and one minor."

It was the judgement of the laboratory that the minor profile might be due to handling, but that the major profile was from the lampshade itself. Dr Bever stated that, on this evidence, he would be prepared to appear in court to testify that the lampshade was of human origin. The skin is that of a white person, or persons; the precise ethnicity cannot be ascertained.

From a longer article:
www.independent.co.uk... 357.html

It's interesting that the article mentions Ilse Koch, yet doesn't mention that she and her husband were put on trial by the SS for some of their disturbing behavior, and her husband, Karl was put to death by the SS. So I get the impression that the higher-ups in the Nazi party did not actually approve of this demented behavior.

Edit : This is not to say or imply that the Nazis were not involved in atrocities, but the article only says that her husband was executed by firing squad. It fails to mention that it was an SS firing squad, and not the Allies. Yes, even the Nazis had to draw the line somewhere.

How much did it cost? Are they selling more of them? I think it's a cool conversation piece.
H.R. Giger used his wife's hipbone to make 'Harkonnen Chairs'.
Several years ago I bought a shrunken head from Brazil in Atlanta, and yes it is authentic, no joke.

With all the atrocities in the world a lampshade made from human skin doesn't even raise an eyebrow. Shouldn't those of you that are appalled be more appalled at how it was taken then how it was used? I will donate my body to art or history. When you go to a museum and see a mummy it's fascinating to look into the eyes of a human being who existed thousands of years ago. There are artists like Gunther von Hagens' who are preserving our history in ways no other are. Take a look if you can!

Gunthers' Gallery

By the way Hitler was evil but Dr. Josef Mengele did some of the worst thing in the name of Nazi Germany that I have ever read. Reading about what this demon did gives even me nightmares. If these items are thought to be Nazi souvenirs they should be seized and brought to a museum.