Again - Whole country had a seismic event.

For myself I am very glad to see you open this thread.

Even though certain things happen and have the usual symptoms each time they occur it doesn't mean that they are all exactly the same and a new sympton might occur that doesn't fit.

When I worked in a Hospital dealing with Cancer patients one day a Nurse got very rude with a patient that kept ringing the bell and making a complaint about this pain she was getting. The Nurse was ticked off because she was tired of going into the room. This Nurse was in with another patient who was also dying and when she had to stop what she was doing and had to go back to this other patient she started to literally yell and was very rude and ignorant to patient telling her she was working with a dying patient and she was tired of having to stop to come to her. She yelled to the patient the symptom you are complaining isn't related with Cancer and your not on your death bed yet you have to just wait. It turned out they found the symption was a new symptom caused by medication and because it wasn't noted and checked the woman bleed out and died that night.

I write that because I want people to understand that even though quakes volcanoes etc. usually have the same telltale signs it doesn't mean there isn't something new coming along that is unusual that we should have watched out for and kept a check on.

I feel as if unusual events are going to happen that don't make sense and we shouldn't shrug them off because they don't fit the norm....... down the line it may be for example the difference between life and death.

We won't know if we don't work together as a team whether right or wrong we are just trying to learn.

I feel we have a right to discuss this in our way as I just said whether we are right or wrong and work together like we were in the other thread. People from all over were sharing getting pictures and it was just cut off.

Seems another volcanic eruption in Africa this time what intrigues me about this one is it says 6 cones erupted and this is something I wish we had a cam and pictures on because this is the type of thing I have been watching/waiting/looking for.

There isn't much on it yet and normally the USA news isn't quick with info so if anyone outside hears info please share.

Thanks

Originally posted by magestyk7
reply to post by westcoast

 

I respect your opinion AND, I read your thread.
I opened what 'GammaRayBurst' made so that people who were discussing the subject(weren't satisfied) can come up with theories/ideas that could explain what's happening.

Because honestly I don't buy yours or the people explanation of this event in your thread.
In you guys mind it's case close and I dont think it is. Thanks for stopping by and have a good day sir.

Anyway, back to discussing this.
Here was a youtube video 'soulplayorb' posted on Nov 2nd. It goes along with 'GammaRayBurst' thread but it was closed so I couldn't post it there.

www.youtube.com...#!

edit on 4-11-2010 by magestyk7 because: (no reason given)

Video has been removed by the user. any other source for the video?

Originally posted by magestyk7
reply to post by triplereiki

 

I think there is a connection with these quakes and the volcanos.

OK, let's just take a look at this one first. The bulk of earthquakes happen what we will call subduction zones - areas where the sea bed is plunging down below the land. (I won't go into details as that is another can of worms so let's just take it as agreed)

The bulk of volcanoes happen around subduction zones, and yes there is a connection between the two. (I am not saying these specific quakes and volcanoes but in general.)

The diagram below is off the US coast but the principle is the same.

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You can see that where there is a subduction zone you get earthquakes and (not clear) volcanoes. This diagram may be a bit clearer.



Generally when an earthquake happens in one of these zones - and in particular when it is deep down - then if the magnitude is around the 6 mark (sometimes a bit less) the ripples as Alysha said will spread out and will find their way all round the planet. This is what you see in the seismograms. One single earthquake showing up all round the world and not simultaneous earthquakes in many places.

Right I'm trying to figure out what is making both happen. To me quakes are signaling volcanoes and the earth core's activity. Where is the problem coming from that's making the Earth core kick out lava is what I'm trying to figure out.

Well I think I have covered that - it is the oceanic lithosphere (the sea bed) subducting under the land. If you drill down into the earth's core you actually won't get all that far before the drill its begin to melt and the rock so mobile that you have to stop. The deepest hole in the world (in Russia) got to 12 km before that happened.

Now bear in mind that this would be a shallow earthquake. They can be from 0 to 600+ km deep.

I'm keeping an eye out on many of the primary volcanoes that havent errupted yet. We all know many are due anytime soon and seems these seismic events is warning us.

Seismic events do indeed warn us of impending eruptions, but a single one or two mag 6 events won't do it, depending on where they are. Generally there will be a swarm of earthquake before an eruptive event. They may all be biggish one in the 5 to 6 range and may even have a 7 or two - but a series of them does not necessarily mean a volcano is going to erupt. The was a bunch of quakes in the Moro Gulf recently, at least 4 of which were 7+, but no eruption. These were all very deep quakes.

Normally the precursors of an eruption will include harmonic tremor as well. Harmonic tremor is associated with the movement of magma, normally into the magma chamber beneath the volcano as it gets ready to erupt.

Iceland and specially indonesia got me really interested. Monotering equipment is going crazy over there.
The volcanoes are getting worse too...
www.msnbc.msn.com...

Remember that at any given time there may be 20 or more volcanoes going off all over the world. There are 16 volcanoes that are continuously eruption and these are found in Indonesia/Philippines, Kamchatka (Russia) and Central/South America. During the course of a year as many as 70 volcanoes may have erupted and whilst these current events are both spectacular and sad at the same time because of the loss of life, they are not unusual. Even Merapi is not actually behaving in an unexpected manner, although it seems to have caught the local team on the hop a bit.

So going back to the recorders 'ringing' as we call it, this actually is a common occurrence. There are 150 or so 6+ quakes every year. Any one of those could ring the seismos, and often does. Remember the 6+ very deep quake in Brazil earlier this year? That made all the seismos black! Some of the higher 5-5.9 quakes can also have the same effect. It is quite possible for these seismo events we have just seen to happen every other day for a whole year.

Quake stats

reply to post by Mr. D


I am not being sarcastic but the user probably removed the video because he realised that what he was saying was complete nonsense. I did watch the video and believe me it was not worth watching.

reply to post by magestyk7

Because honestly I don't buy yours or the people explanation of this event in your thread.
In you guys mind it's case close and I dont think it is. Thanks for stopping by and have a good day sir.

I believe I replied in that thread, much along the lines as here.

I hope you are not going to dismiss my explanation in the same manner? The case of earthquakes and volcanoes is not closed but that one particular incident is - well and truly. What you saw that day will happen again and again. After a while you will begin saying to your self - Oh, just another 6+ ringing the seismos.

Us older hands can be a bit matter of fact about these things, but you can rest assured that even we are not as matter of fact as the geologists! This is nothing out of the ordinary for them.

Actually I just remember that I uploaded the LISS seismos for July 24th. This was a 6.5 in the Moro Gulf, As you can see every recorder in the world was black.

Date/Time UTC,Latitude,Longitude,Magnitude,Depth(Km),Location
2010-07-24T05:35:01.000Z,6.22610,123.52150,6.5000,555.3000,Moro Gulf

So you see it has happened before and it will happen again.

I can understand what you are saying but for myself I need to observe everything because I do believe things are going to start to happen slowly that aren't going to be the norm.

I like to keep all options open not just with the deep quake but with all that is happening at this time. I did like when people where sharing about the skies and the animal and insect activity.

We were doing fine with sharing until ...............well, sometimes we just want to do it our way even if it's not correct.

Originally posted by observe50
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We were doing fine with sharing until ...............well, sometimes we just want to do it our way even if it's not correct.

Funny, that was exactly what I was thinking.

Thanks for yet another thorough explanation PuterMan.

reply to post by PuterMan


Sorry for the late reply.
So much is happening in the world that it's getting tough for me to track and keep up.
I'm into many other subjects/topics, so I read, watch videos and try to stay inform/up to date with current events.

Anyway, I don't dispute the fact that it hasn't happen before. I also never said it's a rear thing.
What I have a problem is the answer/explanation of WHY it happens. I dont buy it.
I'm trying to understand the the cause/source of what's causing the problem and why it has jumped up in frequency.

Thanks for posting.