Class War Spurs Violent Clashes in Europe -- Why Are Americans Just Letting the Super Rich Win?

So. Here's the BIG question...what the hell do we do about it? Is there anything we can do? Can we just stand here screaming into the wilderness? Is everyone else asleep?reply to post by Stewie

reply to post by HUMBLEONE

No, nothing much YOU nor I can do about the big problems. Local affairs in your town or county, yes, you can make a difference. There are definitely opportunities to make the world a better place.

reply to post by Syyth007


Most American's are too busy playing with their ipods, Xboxes and watching Dancing with the stars. They have grown fat and lazy. Most don't even know who their elected officials are nor do they research and keep track of how their officials vote.

Most Americans vote party prejudice.

Case in point, now we are again saddled with a Republican Congress.........so Obama will not be able to get any of his policies through.

While the Democratic Party is far from perfect, they fight more for the common man than the elite, rich corporate owned Republicans, but you cannot tell the yahoo cowboy Americans anything, they stubbornly will hold onto that tough cowboy mentality until all of us are unemployed and homeless, all of us except the rich Republicans.

American's are gullible and most did not do their research. They took the lazy way out and voted party prejudice, probably just like dear old dad did.

You can't tell my fellow Americans anything, most (as proven by the voting) have a short attention span and can't quite figure out how Bush & Cheney mucked our country over but good.

The rest of the world is aware that the Bush Administration should have been held accountable for war crimes. Americans just don't want to see this. Many of my European friends cannot believe how such a dumb person like GWB could obtain such a high office, not once but twice. Bush couldn't even speak without putting his foot in his mouth.

How did George W Bush Jr. acquire the U.S. American Presidency - Vote rigging...............the stealing of votes and stupidity of the American People.

They are blind, stubborn and don't realize the economical crisis we are having right now today is due to decisions made by the previous Presidential Administration........it takes about five years for policies to take effect.

But, most Americans are like puppies. If a puppy wets on the carpet and you wait two minutes to correct them, they haven't a clue as to what happened.........Americans are the same way. They think that magically what is happening to them today is a direct result of the current President.

Wrong, we were out and out lied to about Weapons of Mass Destruction.........research as to who has profitted from this war in Iraq..........many of Bush's friends own the very companies that profitted that is who. Do your research people.

Now, we were lied to about WMD and have no business in Iraq. If we had taken the trillions and trillions of dollars that we as a country used towards the military and say had put this blood money and that is what it now is, towards education and social services, we might have gotten somewhere. But we chose might over right and the average American fell for the lies yet again.

And the Southern "Democratic Senators" are really Republicans wearing the Democratic sheeps clothing, they may call themselves Democrats, but if you keep tabs on how they vote, the Southern Senators always side with the Republican policies..........they are not true Democrats.

We need a change, the two party system is antiquated and having the Green or Libertarian Party is currently a joke and used as "throw away votes".

We, the middle class in America are now screwed, but we have nobody to blame but ourselves.

Most people do not research whom they vote for.

They just keep swallowing that corporate koolaid.

America is now known as a country that endorsed and practiced torture, ignoring the Geneva Convention. We are no longer a country that lives up to our signed agreements.

America is also the only country that has used a weapon of mass destruction, not once but twice, in 1945.

Oh well, we're America, we can do what we damn well please, yahoo.

Many people think "selling your soul" means a little red devil or demon pops up before you with a pitch fork and asks you to sign an agreement in blood.

No, the way you sell your soul is through your daily dealings with people.

Are you a part of the "corporate machine" that likes to roll over anyone and everyone in the name of profit? You've sold your soul and not even known it.

Telling a little white lie or a simple omission of the truth "but it's not really lying".............yep you have sold your soul.

There a thousand ways people do each other dirty and that in and of itself is selling your soul.

We are all part of one consciousness, splintered off.............like individual drops of water and "god" is the ocean.

You harm or do wrong unto another and you truely hurt yourself in the process.

Most Americans still think that if you go to church on Sunday you can do what you darn well please Mon - Sat and "still go to heaven".

Sorry, doesn't work that way folks.

reply to post by HUMBLEONE


for you and for Blaine.

Some people think they did it all on their own. Yes much of it is hard work, but a lot of it is luck too.

I have seen in the past six years working a food distribution center, a drastic change. Six years ago, only people addicted to alcohol and drugs, skid row bums, mentally challenged or damaged people stood in line for a meal.

Now, with each passing month, I am seeing more and more and more what was once middle class Americans in line, many children.

They have lost their jobs, their homes and their medical & dental coverage.........everything because of one major "incident'.

These folks lived much like Blaine, but then one day, they had one major medical or legal issue, a job outsourced or insourced, something that drastically changed their lives and income...........and now here they find themselves out on the street, homeless and standing in line for a hand out meal.

But everyone thinks, "this will never happen to me so I don't care about you".........well that is how the middle class in America is being divided, conquered and dismantled.

The large corporations are still making a profit..........the elite are getting richer off the backs of the middle class.

But the average American is blind - they don't want to see it until it hits them personally right in the face and then it is too late.

We are a country that charges $50.00 for a bottle of blood pressure medicine and easily $300.00 if you have to go to an emergency room / much more if you really have something wrong and need surgery.

We had no health care until Obama got it through.

Big Pharma and The American Medical Association is in bed with Washington DC, along with the FDA.

Most Americans will buy "Twilight" or "Jimmy Kisses Sarah" but not "Hostile Takeover" or "Family of Secrets by Russ Baker, The Bush Dynasty, America's Invisible Government, And The Hidden History Of The Last Fifty Years".

Most Americans don't care about anyone but themselves and have no social consciousness. They are Service to Self vs Service to Others.............and again most Americans aren't really paying attention to what is going on.

"United we stand, divided we fall".

reply to post by Blaine91555


No, I have one ten room house (owe $59,000 left), another six room townhouse (paid for), four cars (all paid for) and am buying 100 acres currently in Wisconsin with 50% down and all my credit cards are now paid off except my Amazon.com which I will pay the 158.00 when the bill comes in for my books I wanted to add to my library.

I'm actually doing pretty good, even though my job was outsourced to "Team India". I'm lucky my husband at 66 is still able to work and makes a good buck.

Let's see, I started out born in downtown St. Louis, to a single mother out of holy wedlock (my father was married to another woman).

My mother died when I was ten which essentially left me an orphan. I went to live with my older half sister whose husband told me, if I wanted to remain in their household I would work, so I cleaned houses, baby sat and did farm work.

Suffered physical, phychological and sexual abuse, survived and went on to marry a very intellegent, gentle and wonderful man.

We have been together 36 years.

I've worked my whole life (48 years) up until August 31, 2010 - because my 16 year job was outsourced to "Team India".

No Blaine, got news for you, yes partly life is what you make it but a large part is the hand you are dealt.

We have three sons, two of which are autistic and one with ADHD and ADD disorders.

No, I did not take drugs, smoke or drink excessively. Bad genes.

No, you did not make your life all on your own, you had help, both Mother Nature was good to you and you had incredibly good luck along the way, no major "issues" got in your way.

You are blind and callous just like most Americans and service to self.

Pray that your luck continues, for many people, that thought as you did, their luck ran out and they had just "one major issue" that forever changed their living the American Dream to living a nighmare. In many cases it was not their fault but luck, stupid luck, one major medical issue, one legal issue, one job loss.

The problem is until something happens to someone most someones just simply don't care about anyone but themselves.

Most people think they got there all on their own not realizing that Lady Luck also helped.

Plain and simple, the rich are getting richer and the middle class is being dismantled.

But Americans refuse to see the big picture and keep looking after their own interests not realizing that we all need to become more socially consciously aware of everyone's needs not just our own.

United we stand, divided we fall.

We are all interconnected.

Originally posted by Stewie
Capitalism is not the problem. ANY economic system can be hijacked by criminals. Face it folks, they have hijacked the world economy.

Capitalism IS the problem. Capitalism doesn't need to be corrupt for it to cause the problems it has. Capitalism is the private ownership of the means of production, the capitalists make their living from exploiting labour, they keep resources artificially scarce to maintain high market prices, they control the population in order to maintain a labour force for their profit machine. If the capitalist can not make money the will do whatever is necessary, including sending us to war, killing thousands, invading other countries, putting people in prison for non-violent crimes, the breakdown of the community, the suppression of technology etc.

Are ALL of the nations capitalists?

Yes we have a world wide capitalist system. All countries are coerced to participate just like all people are, otherwise they have no access to needed resources because they are all owned by private entities.

Correct me if I am wrong, but we let them establish the federal reserve, right? We, our parents and grandparents didn't really pay all that much attention to what was going on. We, of all ages, should have been born raising hell until that crap was thrown out. The super rich you are talking about are the ones very close to the printing presses, and the wall street mega bankers that manipulate the paper. They are not capitalists, they are criminals and they are stealing from the WORLD.

They are capitalists! Yes they are stealing the world. Why is it people want to excuse capitalists all the time, what makes you think capitalists are not criminal? Capitalism itself is a crime imo, a crime perpetuated since the industrial revolution on the people.

Unfortunately, we as a people are not that educated, and will just destroy each other instead of the real enemy. Just more entertainment for the elites I am afraid.

This is true. As soon as people realise it's capitalism that keep the elites at the top (the elites are the capitalists) then it will be a start towards change. Right now the average American has NO clue what capitalism really is (it's not free-markets) and have NO clue other systems can have free markets without the labour exploitation and world dominance of capitalists (like socialism, and no socialism is not social health care, it's the workers ownership of the means of production).

There will be no true free markets while they are controlled, and you are coerced, by a minority group of capitalists.

reply to post by Wally Hope

Capitalism is not inherently corrupt. Capitalism simply means that you and I can own the means of production. You can produce a cedar chest and sell it. In a free market of course.
Greed is not necessary in capitalism. Any transaction MUST benefit both parties in the transaction, that is what it means to have a free exchange of goods in a capitalistic system. I am free to say no thanks, your cedar chest is too expensive.
The alternative is a centrally controlled economy virtually controlled by a privileged few, forever, to perpetuate the producing CLASS at a subsistence level to support the privileged class. This privileged few would tell you what the cedar chest would sell for, how much you will make, what you will make it out of, what hours you will work, when you can sell it, where you can sell it, how you can sell it, and of course IF YOU ARE ALLOWED to sell it.
We do not currently have anything close to free market capitalism, except in the underground economy. Note that in the underground economy, the profit motive is enhanced.
Evil and greedy people will corrupt ANYTHING. That is their nature. The ability to reap the rewards of what you produce is the only proven method for a voluntary economy. Anything else is some sort of slave labor.
A monopoly is not a feature of capitalism, it is a sign of a corrupt out of control system that is a FEATURE of a centrally controlled economy.

Originally posted by Stewie
reply to post by Wally Hope

 

Capitalism is not inherently corrupt. Capitalism simply means that you and I can own the means of production. You can produce a cedar chest and sell it. In a free market of course.

As I tried to explain that is not capitalism. The ability to sell something in a free market is NOT capitalism. Capitalism allows markets, and uses money, but so do other systems. There are anti-capitalist free-markets, socialism allows free markets. What really defines Capitalism is the 'private ownership of the means of production', in other words the machinery, land etc., that is needed to produce the goods we need are owned by a small minority group who use that ownership to exploit the none-owners.

If you truly want free-markets, and not just private ownership of the means of production, then you should maybe explore other ways to allow them. When real capitalists talk about 'free-markets' they mean the freedom to simply exploit all resources with no oversight. It has nothing to do with the freedom to buy and sell on an open market. There are market systems that work on the socialist model. No need for a 'private owner' exploiting labour, and taking a huge chunk in 'profits' simply because they own capital.

Greed is not necessary in capitalism. Any transaction MUST benefit both parties in the transaction, that is what it means to have a free exchange of goods in a capitalistic system. I am free to say no thanks, your cedar chest is too expensive.

Again capitalism is not financial transactions, they can happen without capitalism.

The alternative is a centrally controlled economy virtually controlled by a privileged few, forever, to perpetuate the producing CLASS at a subsistence level to support the privileged class.

No it isn't. You have it backwards. That is what we have now. Capitalists are the privileged few exploiting the lower classes to maintain their privileged lifestyles, NOW.
Why is it you can't see that?

We do not currently have anything close to free market capitalism, except in the underground economy. Note that in the underground economy, the profit motive is enhanced.

Because there really is no such thing, capitalists control the economy and always will. It is only free for the capitalists, not the people. We are just another resource.

Evil and greedy people will corrupt ANYTHING. That is their nature. The ability to reap the rewards of what you produce is the only proven method for a voluntary economy. Anything else is some sort of slave labor.
A monopoly is not a feature of capitalism, it is a sign of a corrupt out of control system that is a FEATURE of a centrally controlled economy.

Agreed, I just wish we could agree on what it is that is the true evil. What is it that really keeps 80% of the world living on less than $10 a day, what is it that keeps the rich-poor divide getting wider? It's the private ownership of the means of production, capitalism.

Too many Americans, particularly those of a republican bent, [ and they are bent] including the so-called Tea party, have been brainwashed to admire and idolize the rich.
Indeed it is weird that many of then lament and grieve when taxes for the rich go up.

Such people live week to week on a paycheck and strangely go out and vote for a republican who doesn’t give a dam about them.

The republican never does anything to make their lives better, in fact they do all they can to make the lives of ordinary Americans worst, but then does all they can to make the rich happy. Strangely htough many Americans ALWAYS vote against their own economic interests by putting the republcans in office.

A republicans ONLY intres is in cutting taxes for the rich, thats it, they dont care about anything else.


Republicans are the slaves of the wealthy class and unfortunately too many Americans love rich people for some strange reason.

Did you notice the Republican leader in the Senate Mitch McConnell said nothing about making the lives better for Americans, like bringing jobs back to this country, no, what does he emphasizes . . . that his first priority is the destruction of the presidency of Barrack Obama, and why, becasue Barack has tried to take just a little power from the rich slavemasters of the republican party.

reply to post by Wally Hope

You are not talking about capitalism.
From Wikipedia:
"Capitalism is an economic system in which the means of production are privately owned and operated for a private profit; decisions regarding supply, demand, price, distribution, and investments are made by private actors in the market rather than by central planning by the government; profit is distributed to owners who invest in businesses, and wages are paid to workers employed by businesses and companies."

Nothing there about an elite few that HAVE to own the means of production. There is nothing about capitalism that means it has to be UNREGULATED. You are talking about Crony Capitalism, that is a group of corrupt individuals using government power to control and manipulate markets for their own benefit. Yes, that is what we have, YOU call it capitalism, I call it corruption.

Perhaps you can bring me an example in real life of a better way, a "socialistic" way of free market exchange of goods and services that benefit the people, untarnished by greedy, self-serving "exploiters"!

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reply to post by Stewie


Capitalism in America , is destructive capitalism. The kind that requires a victim.

The victim in this case is the lower middle class, and middle class.

Capitalism, if it is to work, must be controlled. That could lead to a humanitarian capitalism that can be a nutrient for a society. But in America the major capitalist have bought all the politicians, particularly those in the Republican party, in order so they can do what they want to do without restriction.

That’s why unlimited outsourcing is now ruining the American economy.
The stupid tax policies of Ronald Reagan, where he cut taxes massively for the rich [ then Bush repeated that in his presidency] and trade policies of Bill Clinton, have done nothing but to make the rich richer, and all the rest of us poorer

The capitalists are treated by the politicians as if they are kings, queens, dukes, and all we are is serfs, that exist just to make them as comfortable as possible.

Originally posted by Stewie
reply to post by Wally Hope

 

You are not talking about capitalism.
From Wikipedia:
"Capitalism is an economic system in which the means of production are privately owned and operated for a private profit; decisions regarding supply, demand, price, distribution, and investments are made by private actors in the market rather than by central planning by the government; profit is distributed to owners who invest in businesses, and wages are paid to workers employed by businesses and companies."

Read the first line. Private ownership of the means of production. The means of production being land, factories, housing etc., all owned by the elite and used to make money by exploiting the labour they hire. That is the problem.

The rest about central planning by government is meaningless, and just shows the author is not fully aware of what the alternatives really are. Like most people apparently.

We can't all be capitalists because to make money as a capitalist you need labour. That is how capitalists make their money, not selling things, but by exploiting labour. If they didn't exploit labour they would not be able to produce goods cheap enough to make themselves a profit by selling it back to us. This has lead to the consumer society, and the waste of resources making unnecessary crap in order to make 'profit' for the private owner. Capitalism creates markets for the sake of capitalism, not the good of the people. Capitalism sucks wealth from one area and concentrates it in other areas, a temporary boon for the few, but destructive to society as a whole.

reply to post by inforeal

What you are seeing happen has nothing to do with capitalism.
Yes, they are destroying the middle class, and they are doing it on purpose. When I say, "they", I mean the corporatists that run our government in cahoots with Wall Street Bankers.
A middle class has too much power. Financial power. Not only that, in a capitalistic system, the middle class is COMPETITION! What better way to increase profits than to eliminate the competition and create a monopoly.
That is important to remember.
You and I will always need food to eat, and water to drink. They intend to control that. We will always need housing, they intend to control that. We will always need health care, they intend to control that. Every thing they can control, they will. But, YOU blame capitalism, when you should blame the government that allows international corporations to dictate public policy.

Nothing to do with capitalism. Everything to do with a grand design to have two classes of people in the world, the WHOLE world. The slave class and the elite class. Call them "royalty", call us "suckers".

Originally posted by ladyinwaiting
reply to post by HUMBLEONE

 

Applause! We let them win because the American people are apparently idiots. They are told the truth, and they are told lies, and they believe the lies. Because they are narrow minded greedy materialistic superficial drones who can't think past their next whopper, and could care less about their fellow man.

That's why.

I love you.

Maybe we don't fight because we are not all materialistic, maybe we do care about our fellow humans, and would not bring violence upon anybody unless we were in dire need to be defensive(like someone trying to kill us or our family) now if the rich start breaking into my homes with guns or the military/government or the latin kings IDGAF they will be met with violence then!!!! But until then I take the path of the un-materialistic, peacemaking, enlightened being, because I know I will always eat, and have a roof over my and my children's head, and I do not need money for that...I may need to move somewhere where there is actually free land up for grabs, but that would be what I would do, if need be...War never solves anything!

reply to post by Wally Hope

First, exploitation is not "necessarily" a bad word. It can be, but it means to "use", to make use of. So, if you exploit people, you can do so in a manner that benefits them or doesn't benefit them. This is entirely subjective.
If you have NO choice as labor but to play the game in an economic system...meaning, you can't opt out and go it on your own, you have a controlled economy and this is not capitalism.
Private ownership is simply that, private. You and I CAN own it. I sense that you are talking about a reality that DOES exist, that of our debt based economy made possible by fiat money, where, increasingly, the poor don't actually OWN anything..
This has nothing to do with capitalism, just a perverted economic system that is actually fascistic in nature. And, actually not yet defined as an economic system, whereby we have an elite class of bankers issue fiat paper money to pay us a potentially useless reward for our goods and services.

reply to post by ldyserenity



From the OP:

"The fiction that America is a nation without class, a lie since its inception a half-century ago, gets more and more untenable as actual class struggle daily intensifies. It’s time to accept the simple yet profound fact that America is in the midst of class war – and the super-rich, the American sector of the global oligarchy, is winning."

This class war has been in progress for over a decade now, if not longer.

You said:

War never solves anything

If you haven't noticed the war there is a reason.

It's not much of a war, because the middle class is not fighting back, but seem rather inclined to surrender quietly. If you haven't noticed it yet, you probably will when there is no middle class, but rather only two classes like most of the world. The rich and the poor.

Then we can all sit around wondering why we didn't fight the banks and wallstreet. We can say we didn't realize there was a war going on.

Let's get this straight. Capitalism is an economic system. An economy is the system of goods and services in a society. A capitalist system denotes private ownership of production in the goods and services in a society with the acquisition of CAPITAL as an ultimate goal.

That definition alone does not adequately define the entire scenario including repercussions. There is a pyramid on the back of the US dollar including a Latin phrase that roughly translates to "Our venture is complete" of something of that nature. The whole point of capitalism is to be at the top of the pyramid and you do so by funneling money from those under you.

In this system, there needs to be a base. As the shape of a pyramid tapers to a single top, so does the cash flow of an organization; be it a company or a country, those who make the investments reap the ultimate rewards; be they money, power or control. It's that simple.

Ask yourself; why do we work so hard at such a quick pace? Surely it doesn't require this many people working 40+ hours a week just to run a society. it doesn't most of us are working for private companies selling useless crap to each other in order to perpetuate a company whose ultimate goal is to make money.

It's a sad reality that we require money to live. But it doesn't have to be this way. Consider a society in which all necessary social services (water, shelter, energy, food) are not reliant on the acquisition of capital to survive. then imagine that in exchange for these services, a certain amount of volunteer work is required per month to help run it. Given the amount of people willing to work for these services, we could run a prosperous society working much less than 40 hours a week or 8 hours a day doing something that actually is useful to society rather than just a board of directors and shareholders. Our wives can stay home and be with their children. The old can retire at a much younger age. You can even include an open source internet. The possibilities are endless.

Call it socialism or whatever you want, i see it as logical. We can still have the free market but it would be solely for CRAP. You can work for the crap dealers to help pay for the crap you want. But for those who just want to live life, you don't have to give up half of it doing something you hate just to have food and shelter.

K

reply to post by The Savage Khan

The whole point of capitalism is NOT to be at the top of the "pyramid", although individuals within the system may certainly strive for that. The acquisition of capital, by work or investment or gift or whatever, allows one to purchase those things that one cannot produce alone. For example, you may polish the chrome in an auto assembly plant, but you earn money to pay for the whole car that you cannot build yourself. No one can.
The capital, money, merely makes the "barter" go smoother.
Monetarism, on the other hand, is an entirely different story. By printing and loaning money to "grow" an economy, we have built an economy based upon debt. This system enriches the bankers that print the money that feeds this "keynesian" system. So, the value of the dollar goes down over time, and only the increase in productivity of the worker can counter this decline.
Couple this erosion of the value of the "money" that we are paid with, to the events of the last twenty years or so. The "global economy" championed by the last 6 presidents or so, was to lower the cost of labor! So, in affect, we have been told by Republicans and Democrats alike, that lowering the cost of labor is good for America. The increased "productivity", by utilizing foreign slave labor, appeared to work only because of EASY credit. The Ponzi scheme was now in full swing. A debt based economy based upon cheap foreign goods.
This was the beginning of the end for manufacturing in the U.S., and the beginning of the end for the middle class in the U.S.
The final nail was provided by Wall Street. By eliminating Glass-Stegall the door was open for the pillage of what was left of American business. To make a long story short, they shorted the public companies one at a time and systematically destroyed them, or they collaborated with the CEO's to put "their" companies into massive debt by stealing the equity and future earnings in the form of Leveraged Buyouts.
Read "The Barbarians at the Gate"
en.wikipedia.org...
Also this,
www.deepcapture.com...
And if you really get motivated read this,
informationliberation.com...

Ah those in the land of oz are starting to hold a mirror up to them selfs and there world, fear not for there are bigger things to fear in this universe then human nature. There are many things worth fearing, but most especially fear itself. The parable of the mountain is that even the mountain's shall pass, don't let illusions control you, time moves on and we live we learn, or not, either way time moves on.

Edgar Allan Poe - Eldorado

Gaily bedight,
A gallant knight,
In sunshine and in shadow,
Had journeyed long,
Singing a song,
In search of Eldorado.
But he grew old--
This knight so bold--
And o'er his heart a shadow
Fell as he found
No spot of ground
That looked like Eldorado.
And, as his strength Failed him at length,
He met a pilgrim shadow-
"Shadow," said he,
"Where can it be--
This land of Eldorado?"
"Over the Mountains Of the Moon,
Down the Valley of the Shadow,
Ride, boldly ride,"
The shade replied--
"If you seek for Eldorado!"

This is the only poem that I still can quote off the top of my head from this dude, and it seems to apply to this because there is no Eldorado and there never was, and the city of gold turned to ash, and the fool woke up from his dream and quest. But what does the raven say about this all?........Nevermore. Time moves on. This to shall pass.

Originally posted by ladyinwaiting
This class war has been in progress for over a decade now, if not longer.

Actually the class war has been raging since the industrial revolution, when the exploitation of the people by the elite really started. It's part of our history that isn't taught in schools. Most people don't seem to realise that if it wasn't for worker organization, such as unions, we would still be exploited like we were in the 1800's, if not worse.

There really was a class war in the early 1900's that concluded with the Spanish workers revolution. The revolution started in Spain but many different nationalities were involved and it would have spread if it wasn't for the fascists, which included Hitler and his Nazis (for those who think Hitler was a lefty lol).

libcom.org...

www.workersliberty.org...

War never solves anything

If you haven't noticed the war there is a reason.

It's not much of a war, because the middle class is not fighting back, but seem rather inclined to surrender quietly. If you haven't noticed it yet, you probably will when there is no middle class, but rather only two classes like most of the world. The rich and the poor.

Then we can all sit around wondering why we didn't fight the banks and wallstreet. We can say we didn't realize there was a war going on.

The war was brought to the people, the capitalists declared war on the working classes when they put us in factories. The people are just trying to defend themselves.

BTW traditionally there are really three basic classes...

The working class, those that don't own capital and have to sell their labour, also known as the 'proletariat'.

The middle class, those that don't own capital, and sell their labour, but support the capital class in their position, such as supervisors, shop owners, small business owners (small businesses often do not generate enough surplus profit to reinvest in production, and cannot grow, so are not classified as capital property), also known as the 'petit bourgeois'.

The upper class, or capitalist class, those that own the means of production, the 'haute bourgeoisie'. Their capital assets are generating enough income to reinvest and grow into larger corporations (by exploiting labour, and other resources that should be commonly held, such as land).

This can be broken down even further into upper and lower middle class, for example. Most Americans who call themselves 'middle class' are really working class. The distinction isn't poor, middle class, rich lol.