Evolved Time Travelling Humans Were Roswell Aliens

Commander George W. Hoover has come forward to state that he believes the object that crashed in Roswell in 1947 was actually a craft carrying humans from the future as oppose to extraterrestrial visitors.
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Charles Halt of the Rendelshem forest incident thought that the craft he observed was "us from the future" as well. The popular "grey" alien could certainly seem to fall into what may be us in an advanced stage of evolution.

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Hoover died in 1993 so he hasn't come forward to claim anything.

The person who is making these claims for him is William J. Birnes link author of "UFO magazine" and someone that has already been called into question when he worked on the History channel

In 2009, Birnes' credibility came into question after investigating a sighting of bright lights in the skies over Morristown, New Jersey on his show UFO Hunters. A Skeptic.com blog said that he, "declared definitively that the Morristown UFO could not have been flares or Chinese lanterns."[3] Afterward, two men, Chris Russo and Joe Rudy, came forward and claimed the lights were a hoax they perpetrated using balloons and flares as part of a "social experiment."[4] Birnes specifically "ruled out" flares as a possibility for the lights on that program.

Strangley Hoover chose to give this information to him, but never mentioned it to his own son

Thanks for the post. Do you know anything about David Lewis Anderson? I had never heard of him before reading one of the comments from you link. I listened to a little techno clip thingy but haven't read on further to see if this dude is creditable or not. Just that he is a doctor that's into physics and time travel.

Why is it always 'They are from the future'?

Why couldn’t they be from the past?

Plenty of stuff around claiming a hidden history. Ancient Astronauts.

Seems to me even when we let our imaginations fly our egos won’t let us believe those that came before us may have been a lot smarter or more advanced.

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I was just thinking that myself. Currently human evolution looks to be going towards larger heads, with smaller jaws (same number of teeth unfortunately, hence the increasing overcrowding rates and gleeful orthodontists) and thinner and less muscular thighs.

This surely is close to the alleged physiology of the Grays alien type. As a result of this body type and the global reduction in fertility rates, more humans will be conceived via artificial insemination, and born via cesarean. Responsible for the diminished importance of the genitalia and sexual intercourse I wonder?...

All worth pondering I think!

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The question is from what time did they come and why did they go back into time.
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Im gonna go out on a limb and say that people in the future will still be having sex.....lots and lots of sex.

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I hope so PokeyJoe... I really do.

But these pesky 'Gray aliens' apparently breed via insemination. Perhaps this is a simple indication that they are not our future counterparts, because humans just love getting it on.

Bayon Chic Chicca Wayon!

Let's say Time Travel is possible and you opened up a portal and passed thru it and ended up 200,000 years in the future.

In that time the Galaxy moved. The Solar System moved around the Galaxy. And you'd be standing 200,000 years in the future in the middle of nowhere's.

I don't buy Time Travel because of this. Maybe the aliens are from another Dimension/Universe..another Planet.

But not from this Earth. If there really were Aliens obtained at Roswell some Air Force Officer would have gotten the artifact and alien to his newly started up Corporation and would be making Billions selling the new technology to us peasants. This hasn't happened. The majority of the technology we have came from Nikoli Tesla, a naturalized Alien from the Austrian Empire.

Well, according to Philip Corso Jr., his dad told him before he died that the Roswell "aliens" were in fact some kind of time traveling humans from some form of the future, but he didn't put it in the first book because the publishers wanted to cash in more on the alien angle, and they skewed the book accordingly.

But in Philip Corso's original notes, which were apparently actually online for a little while before they were taken down, the Roswell stuff was always about contact with the future, which is why is was put under such an extremely high degree of security. Knowing even a little bit about the future can be a very powerful thing, and contamination from the future can have a severe and potentially negative effect on the present.

We won't know the whole story until Philip Corso Jr's. book comes out, which may be never. Until then, we only have his rambling public appearances to sort through on YouTube.

This is what always gets me.

If they are from the future and then crashed here, obviously they changed history as Roswell is pretty much the pinnacle of UFO encounters. At the moment that history was changed and Roswell came into being, wouldn't other "beings" purported humans in this case that also have the ability to travel back in time be able to come and set things right?

I can understand ALIENS from another galaxy traveled who knows how far and for how long to get here, they crashed ok can't really risk a rescue mission or whatever. Time travel on the other hand, you literally have all the time in the world to set things right and as if it never happened.

This is just the way I see it

I just wanted to reinforce about Birnes, the Publisher of UFO Magazine. I too think that in this case it's highly questionable. I tend to believe Hoover's Son about what he said and not Birnes who's putting words in his mouth after his death is highly suspicious and I agree with the other poster.

Why would a person of Birnes description ever do an interview without at least one witness or a family member to corroborate? Does not smell right to me. Hoover withholds from his own Son, his namesake, or anyone else close to him and spills the beans to Birnes?

Originally posted by Ophiuchus 13
The question is from what time did they come and why did they go back into time.

The time travelers supposedly came from the future of an alternate timeline where the Nazis won World War II, and they came back to help the Allies win the war, making this timeline we're in now an alternate timeline. That's apparently why there were so many UFO sightings starting with the War and continuing forward. Without the Nazi scientists pushing the other timeline forward to developing genetic manipulation and time travel, it was necessary for the future people to come back frequently and seed our timeline with technological advances such that we develop at a rate that will someday allow our two timelines to re-merge into the more stable reality.

If you buy that stuff, anyway.

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If I'm not mistaken that was taken straight from a work of fiction. Where did you pick that up?

I'm remembering a book from years ago and I think there was a movie or something derived from it. Back in the late 70's to mid 80's I think. Same story line but pure fiction.

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THANKS !
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Originally posted by Blaine91555
If I'm not mistaken that was taken straight from a work of fiction. Where did you pick that up?

There have certainly been a number of pulp science fiction books that deal with the subject of Nazis winning World War II, and a secret group of time travelers working to make sure that never happened. Philip K. Dick wrote "Man in the High Castle," which was about a scenario along those lines, I believe.

Most of what I've heard about Roswell being connected to time travelers and alternate timelines comes from the various public appearances of Philip Corso, Jr. I find it interesting that George Hoover supposedly said roughly the same thing. The link between the two, of course, is Bill Birnes, who curiously seems more intent on pushing the extra-terrestrial angle on such shows as UFO Hunters, and steering away from the time travel stuff. Either Birnes is just an old, hard-headed ETH proponent, and doesn't want to listen to Hoover and Corso, or maybe he thinks the public isn't ready to find out about the time travelers, which are in many ways harder to comprehend and deal with.

Another thing I think is interesting about the Roswell stuff is how over the years the Roswell aliens have morphed into these kind of freaky green bug-like things, when most of the supposed eyewitness descriptions of them (as well as other "aliens" such as those encountered by Betty and Barney Hill and Travis Walton), are of essentially human-like "little people," who except for being a bit smaller are essentially humans. I see this as a strange shift away from the old days of contactees, where aliens were often seen as human, to make them as little like humans as possible. Is this a purposeful manipulation of the image? I don't know.

It makes me want to put Bill Birnes on the new Majestic 12 list, though, along with Jacques Vallee (former member), Michio Kaku, and Stan Friedman, among others, including military officers, who are obviously a lot less public. He seems to be the pivot point for a lot of information and information manipulation.

Another idiot to ignore...were will it end.

time travel advanced version of humans: unlikely

humanoids from another planet: maybe

Thread on both time travel and the ET's .......let me catch my breath for a second I am hyperventillating....

ok im good no

I don't know if I buy this, although the thought has certainly come to me many times.
I dont kno if I really lookt at Birnes like a UFO investigator anymore, he is more of a journalist, if you can call him that. Like most good journalists, he has a publication to sell, I dont think he ould sell many copies of his magazine if he as debunking sightings on his pages all of the time. I was recently posting in another thread with someone about senssationalism, and although I dont consider Birnes guilty of this, it is the same point, he needs to seel magazines to stay in business.