Plastic KILLED your MOJO!!!!!

Population control conspiracy theorists may be onto something here....

Chinese factory workers exposed to high levels of the plastics chemical BPA had low sperm counts, according to the first human study to tie it to poor semen quality.

The results "are at least suggestive of the possibility that BPA may be one of the compounds that are causing some of these changes" in sperm, she said. But Gore said stronger evidence is needed to prove that BPA is indeed the culprit.

Low sperm counts were found in workers who had detectable levels of bisphenol-A in their urine. Poor sperm quality was two to four times more prevalent among these men than among workers whose urine showed no sign of BPA. The lowest sperm counts were in men with the highest levels of BPA.

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So now a study exists to back up what many people have been saying for quite awhile... That BPA is a toxin that effects fertility.

Is this an attack on manhood - leading to global feminization?

Is this population control? After all, we did ship these manufacturing jobs to a nation with severe population issues... Could it have been known that this effect would occur?

Or is it just a case of man diving into things without having enough knowledge to see the consequences?

Either way, after reading this, I plan to go through my kitchen and throw everything plastic into the garbage. I might want to be a Dad again someday!

~Heff

And now that my horrid thread fail is in the past..... This is a real thread!

My most humble apologies and I am now trying to figure out a way to shoot my defective browser without harming my beloved computer....

Another interesting snippet in the cited news article...

The U.S. Food and Drug Administration has been evaluating the chemical's safety but declined to say if it is considering following Canada's lead in declaring the chemical toxic.

Soooo...

Canada has banned this and labeled it as "toxic" and China, at least, is researching the problem with a quickness but the US government says that they are "looking into it"

It's easy to see where our leaders loyalties and priorities are here. Profits trump public welfare.

~Heff

Originally posted by Hefficide

Population control conspiracy theorists may be onto something here....

So now a study exists to back up what many people have been saying for quite awhile... That BPA is a toxin that effects fertility.

Possible.

Is this an attack on manhood - leading to global feminization?

Can`t see this being true,low or poor sperm count would reduce both genders,no?

I did have a laugh Hefficide,when I first clicked on "Plastic KILLED your MOJO!!!!!" only to see nothing but blank.
Thinking something stole your mojo.

Originally posted by gps777
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I did have a laugh Hefficide,when I first clicked on "Plastic KILLED your MOJO!!!!!" only to see nothing but blank.
Thinking something stole your mojo.

Yes. I laughed too! Once the panic and humiliation passed!

The Firefox doesn't like me sometimes and it is definitely after my mojo!

~Heff

Some more interesting info regarding the W.H.O. also hitting the news this morning...

Ottawa conference seeks global consensus on risks of bisphenol A

Health authorities have always believed these trace exposures were harmless. But the question of whether eating canned food entails any health risks because of BPA, a compound that mimics the female hormone estrogen, is about to receive one of its most thorough reviews.

The WHO meeting is being held in Canada, in part because it is the leading jurisdiction in the world on BPA regulation. The federal government was the first in the world to add the man-made chemical to a national toxic substances list last month, after having earlier banned baby bottles made from the compound, another international first.

There is also growing evidence that BPA has impacts in the wider population. A study published last week in the journal Fertility and Sterility of workers in Chinese factories who used BPA linked the chemical to poor sperm quality among those with the highest exposures. Earlier this year, another study, of typical Americans, found those with the most BPA had a 45 per cent higher risk of developing cardiovascular disease.

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It looks like the genie is out of the bottle... But I am left wondering this...

After all these years of controversy why is this steamrolling ahead now???

This reeks of agenda... Now let's see if the wonderful minds at ATS can fit the pieces together and figure out just what the agenda is.

~Heff

That sure makes me want to drink out of plastic bottles. Not. It makes me wonder if they really are trying to get rid of us.

Originally posted by Hefficide


Yes. I laughed too! Once the panic and humiliation passed!

The Firefox doesn't like me sometimes and it is definitely after my mojo!

~Heff

I can imagine

This is the first I`ve heard of Bisphenol A (BPA)

So I had a quick search to see if its legal in Australia and yes it is.

Has a safe level actually been established?

Yes. The internationally established safe level known as the Tolerable Daily Intake (TDI) for BPA is 0.05 mg per kilogram of body weight per day. The TDI is an estimate of the amount of a substance in food that can be ingested daily over a lifetime without appreciable health risk. The TDI is based on animal studies and incorporates a safety factor which allows calculation of a safe level of consumption for humans to be undertaken.



Are very low levels of BPA in food of a concern?

FSANZ has evaluated the safety of BPA in food, including that consumed by infants from baby bottles and concluded that levels of intake of BPA are very low and do not pose a risk to public health for any age group. For example, to reach the safe level (TDI) for BPA:

•a 5 kg baby would need to consume more than 80 large (240 mL) polycarbonate plastic baby bottles full of infant formula a day, around fifteen to twenty times more than a baby would eat.
•a 9 month old baby weighing 9 kg would have to eat more than 1 kg of canned baby custard containing BPA every day, assuming that the custard contained the highest level of BPA found.


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Safe? somehow I`m still not convinced.

Good one Heff

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Great point, which led me to the Google and this article...

A Health Canada study of canned pop has found the vast majority of the drinks contain the chemical bisphenol A, a substance that imitates the female hormone estrogen and is banned in baby bottles.

Out of 72 drinks tested, 69 were found to contain BPA at levels below what Health Canada says is the safe upper limit. However, studies in peer-reviewed science journals have indicated that even at very low doses, BPA can increase breast and ovarian cancer cell growth and the growth of some prostate cancer cells in animals.

And, later in the article, cryptically, this...

The federal department's study was published in January in the Journal of Agricultural and Food Chemistry and was posted on Health Canada's website. When asked why the study was not widely publicized, Shank said "it wasn't our intent" to hide it.

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And even worse!!!!!

Low levels of BPA were detected in all surveyed canned beer samples with levels ranging from 0.081 to 0.54 µg/L*, and only one bottled beer sample at a level of 0.054 µg/L*. The presence of BPA in canned beer samples and its absence (or lower level than canned) in bottled beer samples suggests that migration from can coatings is a source of BPA in canned beer products.

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Does that have your attention guys? THEY ARE POISONING OUR BEER WITH SOMETHING THAT KILLS SPERM!

See now this is a full on conspiracy!

~Heff

Flag & Star!!
This is a much larger and serious problem than most people realise.
I wouldn't be surprise if in the future the plastics industry has alot to answer to, much the same way as the asbestos industry had to, but with plastics it will be massive.

Check out..

www.youtube.com...

This definitely sounds like population control to me. TPTB killed my second line.

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Hey NonKonphormist!

Thanks for the link... It's dead, but if you watch what comes up it does provide links to the video! Great information and contribution!

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Some more interesting information regarding this:

But things have changed. Last month, reacting to a cascade of research studies linking BPA to serious health conditions, senior FDA leaders appointed by President Obama issued a strong warning to the public to avoid the chemical. FDA officials announced a series of investigations of BPA safety, meanwhile committing the agency, on its own and in conjunction with Canadian counterparts, to “support” food processing industry efforts to find a suitable replacement for BPA in can linings, particularly for canned infant formula.

Right now, the Japanese canning industry voluntarily uses non-BPA can linings, but nearly all other major canners in industrialized nations use epoxy resin with BPA. Scientists and policy-makers worldwide are stepping up research into BPA and into alternatives for cans. Later this year, the World Health Organization and the Food and Agriculture Organization of the United Nations are planning to convene an international “Expert Consultation on BPA.”

So... We are looking for a "suitable replacement" for can linings that don't have BPA when, quite obviously, the Japanese already have them?

Does this not seem highly contrary to anyone else?

This article also states:

Well then – what’s in the cans? Pepsi is silent on that question. At least Coca-Cola’s website acknowledges the BPA controversy and takes a position. Pepsi’s position is ostrich. On Feb. 3, we emailed and telephoned Pepsi customer service and media relations to ask if Pepsi had managed to come with a non-BPA can lining.

So far – nothing. Pepsi hasn’t returned our calls. We can only assume this means Pepsi, like Coke and most other canners outside Japan, uses BPA-based epoxy resin.

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So, two major US companies - the two largest soft drink manufacturers in the world, Coke and Pepsi, try to dance around the issue and point out that their bottles are BPH free, but aren't so forthcoming when discussing the canned variety of their products... Hrm...

A suitable answer already exists... so why the shuck and jive when a fix is available? Is giving your investors the highest return possible really worth poisoning them? Are we that greedy?

~Heff

they went after the fish's mojo....and I wasn't a fish...so I said nothing..
then they took the alligator's mojo, and again, I said nothing....
then they came after mine!!!!

seriously, you guys ought to do a little research into what the stuff does to alligators......

I think this is a big issue, as far as trying to put the pieces together in terms of what it means well i assume the true TPTB already knew this for a while and probably didn't want little ol me or you to know this.....but eventually certin things get out, people not in the know do there own research and find out these things, but i don't think it's mear coincidence that were hearing about it now after all it's near election time and if the truths gonna come out you might as well try and control it and use it as a health issue right, who ever has the best platform in terms of health related issues could easly benefit from ths.....think about it.


My two cents anyhow......

Originally posted by dawnstar
they went after the fish's mojo....and I wasn't a fish...so I said nothing..
then they took the alligator's mojo, and again, I said nothing....
then they came after mine!!!!

seriously, you guys ought to do a little research into what the stuff does to alligators......

Great post! I chuckled even if it might have been a tad improper to do so! But your wordsmithing was most definitely ingenious and fun!

Oh, and I took your advice too!

Increasing research shows damage from endocrine disruptors. Their use in products will be increasingly called into question. Companies using these products are poor investment risks and could have some liability risks in the future as well. They have had a pass because the companies using these substances were the ones funding the research. While that is still largely the case, independent researchers, both here and offshore, are replicating pretty dramatic experiments.

The most interesting one I know of offhand is that concerning alligators in Lake Apopka in Florida. Birth defects were observed in male alligators, and these defects were replicated in succeeding generations when unaffected alligators were exposed to the contaminated water in the lake. This wasn’t specifically Bis A, but the story is cautionary because endocrine disruptors behave similarly and are active at low concentrations and where other contaminants are present as well.

And this very compelling statement follows....

There are many instances of bad science from the alphabet agencies because of undue influence. The pharmaceutical industry is another example where independent scientists are beginning to catch them, sometimes with the industry’s own research, in regression analyses, and in other ways. Joseph Biederman, of Harvard, among others, have been outed this year. University research funded by industries which stood to profit are increasingly getting busted for conflicts of interest and other misbehaviors.

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Birth defects, low sperm counts, conglomerates, lies, competing national opinions, alligators, and now alphabet agencies.... Oh my! What utter intrigue have we stumbled into here???

Thank you so much dawnstar for your contribution! Great information!

~Heff