My VERY FIRST MESSAGE from above To all Humans!

reply to post by Hefficide


Heff,
That is very nice of you. I am a little more cynical. I am on this site because I genuinely would like to read and hear about some things you might not hear about other places. However I'm thinking this site has more kids (physcally and mentally immature) who just post things for attention. Too many times what is written is easily debunked.

I do appreciate there are some very good fiction writers on here. I strongly encourage those writers to start trying to get their work published.

Originally posted by Elsek
I've got a question.

Why?

Why monitor us? Is there any point? Are we Lab Rats for studying or do these aliens or above beings get energy from our activities.

Clearly it's some sick form of alien pornography, just kidding.



Maybe because once upon a time, there was a race of humans with real paranormal powers - those that later man called witches and warlocks.

They got loose among the stars and being human, they scorched every civilization within a hundred lightyears or more. More advanced civilizations intervened, imposing the FTL limit on our local system, even as they weeded the Psi gene out of our species - hence visitations, monitoring, and abductions.

Mankind may just be too dangerous to be let loose among the stars.

Yay, now this is the comment's I was expecting, And I will respond.

Did the above verbally/telepathically talk to you or show you visions? Or have you stumbled upon things you felt were true?

The first question, is a little hard to explain, but I will give it my best. All information that has entered my mind since I was 14, First enters the mind as feelings, sort of like emotions, Then after a while the brain starts to process the information, into words we understand. The mind is merely a filter, once the energy flows freely within any one. The second question, I have been helping people to understand things a little better since the age of 14, I have only had the internet going on 4 years now, but have only been using the internet for searching thing's that I have known all along, in the past 2 years, just to see if anything of what I am saying is true. Only because I was beginning to have doubts of what I was believing to be true. But the internet has reassured me a lot, that I am not the only so called crazy person out there.

who are you ?

My name is Ricky, I am an observer of life. Who are you?
To the same person

i got nothing to live for anyway . well almost nothing .

This is not good my friend, I believe life is worth living for, with out life, whats is the purpose of anything. These are the greatest mysteries. And mysteries is what makes life exciting All my love to you, and be well my brother.

Actually the only way to change the future is to know it beforehand. I mean we would always end up making the same choices based on past experiences (unless we have some information from the future).

I don't really believe we can see the future, But it is nice to see possible out comes of the future, And then we have to choose which path to take. I think the events that will unfold, Is because of the choices us and others have made to get to this point of space/time. But I believe a lot of people are beginning to understand the mistakes we have made, and now is the time to correct these mistakes.

So in this case they are not actually abducting people, but they will be asking you first?

Yes this is true if they ask you, and you agree to it. But if they take you with out asking, this is abduction, and a breach of your human rights. And no one has the right to do such a thing, with out your permission.

What will be their tactics for enchanting humans and making the joyride look like fun? Will they offer us candy if we go for a ride?

I do not know of what tactics they will use, But unless you have accepted to go with them, This will be your choice. My self personally would not go with any one, unless I knew a little about them first. Not just show up at a time of need a say get in, or even just take you with out asking. If they did this then you have the right to defend your self. But do not murder, Only defend.

Oh, geez, here we go again... at least you've given a reasonable deadline (Wednesday) to be shown wrong.

Sorry, and yes I know what you mean by here we go again, but I have given no such deadline, It has begun and has been though out the year. Just because we are moving into the 7th day of light, Does not mean it will end there, I believe this will still continue though out the year, even maybe into the next year. It will eventually get better though, I have no end date to when it will stop though. No one could predict such a thing

BEAR with me! BEAR! Bare == "get naked", Bear == "put up with". Unless you are addressing nudists, the proper word is "bear". Sorry. Still working on my morning coffee, and this, along with "They're/Their/There" and "a lot" aggravate me a lot more than they should :-)

Thank you for the English lesson, You must be a teacher of some sort? I am sorry my grammar has aggravated you, I will try my best, But I am sure I did mention I am not a educated person. Education has nothing to do with wisdom. I did learn to read and Write and maths, the rest of the subjects were a waste of my time, as I knew I would never use them.

I just wanted to add my feelings to the rest of the posters here. I have a feeling that there are too many people out there with no life. I feel that these people don't want to go out and live in reality so they like to make up things and then try to believe them as much as possible. My feelings tell me to feel bad for these people. This feeling also tells me to let this group know there is a lot of REAL interesting things in the world and for these people to go out and experience them instead of making up a imaginary world. These are just my feelings and you don't have to believe them if you dont want to.

You are quite welcome to add you feelings, as any one has this right, Thank you for being honest and open. Your feelings are well respected here

I would honesty suggest speaking to a doctor and ruling out any physiological or emotional issues before accepting that these voices or messages are real. After that is done, and you are confident that what you are experiencing is, in fact, otherworldly, then I will be most happy to engage in lengthy conversations about what the energy has to say. But until then your health will remain my primary concern. I say this out of legitimate concern.

Thank you so much for you concern, But I have been to many doctors through out my life a even psychiatrist, As I also suffered insomnia for 16 years of my life, and medication and meditation failed, and none of them can understand where the information was coming from. I have even had a scan done, because my doctor though I might have a tumor. But Nothing, I had told the psychiatrist, of the things that I know, And he though I was a very wise person, and that's all he could put it done as. As everything I told him, made sense also. So unless he is crazy too, I guess, from people that I have found using this internet, You seem to be surrounded by crazy people Or maybe it is wisdom? rest assure though, I am and always have been a very loving and caring person, and even they could see nothing wrong with that. Of course it would be different if I was violent. But I do thank you very much for your concern

Why? Why monitor us? Is there any point? Are we Lab Rats for studying or do these aliens or above beings get energy from our activities.

Why indeed? I have asked this question many times myself, And the only answer I keep getting, Is that we as a human species have been very fascinating. Especially on how we are so easy manipulated in too believe, almost any thing, because a lot of people choose to listen to the mind/ego. Maybe other species they have created, have just gone naturally living in harmony with nature and love. They even might consider us to be a threat, as we have found out, those who listen to the mind/ego have become quite dangerous, even to kill our own kind. Maybe they think we might become very dangerous as we begin to explore in space, with this mind/ego in charge of us. Not really sure, but this is the best answer I can give you for now.

I must thank you all again for replying, it is very much appreciated, I am not here for attention, and this has never been my intention though out my life. I am only hear to help, people understand thing's in life a little more easily. I do understand there are a lot of mind's/ego's out there that are quite simply not ready to understand the thing's I say, And I completely understand, The mind/ego is a very hard thing to let go of, since it has been conditioned into most people for so long. In my reality this is the disease that has spread across the globe, And yes It is a disease, only your mind will tell you that it is not. But if it creates, hatred and murder of our own kind, then what else could it be other from a disease. Take very good care all of you,

Much love and peace to each and every one of you

Rick

Hello again. It's so interesting how our stories correlate. My messages come in a nice, sometimes quite heavy, flow of energy which later "congeals" into the message it is to become. This used to happen on Saturday evenings or at any point on a Sunday. Now it happens whenever. But may I ask: Did you also receive a symbol having to do with eyes, the sun, and another object? I would like to withhold identifying this object because there are many here who will leap to the wrong conclusion. If you have your 20 posts, please feel free to reply in private message.

Now we must exercise our free will to create the world as it suits us best. It is of the utmost importance that everyone realize their own power to do this. We are not subject to anything to that which we do not submit. We give authority to others to make our decisions -- then we complain and do nothing to change it!

It is for each and every one of us to take the responsibility for every action and every thought (even more importantly) that we make or have. Please turn off your TVs, your radios, your computers (at least for a while). Ignore "current events". Get to know your family, your neighbors, your community. Find a place near you where Man has yet to spoil entirely and feel Nature. There is a message for you there. Feel it.

Those of you who have seen my posts before will recall that they are always about a world without money, a world where we don't jump because the clock tells us to, a world where our priority is peace, love, community, giving, sharing. This is the world that lies ahead of us if we can just get past the fear that grips us and will grip us ever tighter over the next couple of years. Use your heart to feel your way forward.

I think this is a very interesting post--it always mindboggles me to see the different responses that come in from the other posters, somewhere beteen the illusionists and the sceptics there must be the truths. (That would then make it seem that both ends of the spectrum contain the elements of truth?) I think maybe that is where "discernment" comes in.

At times I have been "hit" with information seemingly to come from "above". To me, this "above" has been almost as if it were being "downloaded" through the top of my head. When this happens I seem to go into almost a hightened state of awareness, as if all other senses and surroundings are blocked out or at least minimized. These episodes occur (generally speaking) when I'm already in a (natural) heightened stage of concentration or focus--ususally through some stressful situation.

And just to add another two cents: I've often wondered myself, and indeed, have felt, as if I'm being monitored.

Annabanana

You might be interested in reading this interview from1999 with Master Li Hongzhi, the founder of Falun Dafa, a self-cultivation method based on Truthfulness-Benevolence-Forbearance and currently heavily persecuted in China.

We can here see his statements on the aliens and their objective in society:


www.time.com...

TIME: You talk about the period of the end of Dharma.
Li: While Buddha Sakyamuni [563-483 B.C.] was teaching his Dharma, there was no written language so the Dharma was passed by word of mouth. After 500 years, human discourse changed Buddha Sakyamuni's original words and it came to an end. The ending of the Dharma means that the cultivation method began to become chaotic and could no longer enable people to practice cultivation.

TIME: Why does chaos reign now?
Li: Of course there is not just one reason. The biggest cause of society's change today is that people no longer believe in orthodox religion. They go to church, but they no longer believe in God. They feel free to do anything. The second reason is that since the beginning of this century, aliens have begun to invade the human mind and its ideology and culture.

TIME: Where do they come from?
Li: The aliens come from other planets. The names that I use for these planets are different . Some are from dimensions that human beings have not yet discovered. The key is how they have corrupted mankind. Everyone knows that from the beginning until now, there has never been a development of culture like today. Although it has been several thousand years, it has never been like now.

The aliens have introduced modern machinery like computers and airplanes. They started by teaching mankind about modern science, so people believe more and more science, and spiritually, they are controlled. Everyone thinks that scientists invent on their own when in fact their inspiration is manipulated by the aliens. In terms of culture and spirit, they already control man. Mankind cannot live without science.

The ultimate purpose is to replace humans. If cloning human beings succeeds, the aliens can officially replace humans. Why does a corpse lie dead, even though it is the same as a living body? The difference is the soul, which is the life of the body. If people reproduce a human person, the gods in heaven will not give its body a human soul. The aliens will take that opportunity to replace the human soul and by doing so they will enter earth and become earthlings.

When such people grow up, they will help replace humans with aliens. They will produce more and more clones. There will no longer be humans reproduced by humans. They will act like humans, but they will introduce legislation to stop human reproduction.

TIME: Are you a human being?
Li: You can think of me as a human being.

TIME: Are you from earth?
Li: I don't wish to talk about myself at a higher level. People wouldn't understand it.

TIME: What are the aliens after?
Li: The aliens use many methods to keep people from freeing themselves from manipulation. They make earthlings have wars and conflicts, and develop weapons using science, which makes mankind more dependent on advanced science and technology. In this way, the aliens will be able to introduce their stuff and make the preparations for replacing human beings. The military industry leads other industries such as computers and electronics.

TIME: But what is the alien purpose?
Li: The human body is the most perfect in the universe. It is the most perfect form. The aliens want the human body.

TIME: What do aliens look like?
Li: Some look similar to human beings. U.S. technology has already detected some aliens. The difference between aliens can be quite enormous.

TIME: Can you describe it?
Li: You don't want to have that kind of thought in your mind.

TIME: Describe them anyway.
Li: One type looks like a human, but has a nose that is made of bone. Others look like ghosts. At first they thought that I was trying to help them. Now they now that I am sweeping them away.,

TIME: How do you see the future?
Li: Future human society is quite terrifying. If aliens are not to replace human beings, society will destroy itself on its own. Industry is creating invisible air pollution. The microparticles in the air harm human beings. The abnormality in the climate today is caused by that [pollution], and it cannot be remedied by humans alone. The drinking water is polluted. No matter how we try to purify it, it cannot return to its original purity. Modern science cannot determine the extent of the damage. The food we eat is the product of fertilized soil. The meat we eat is affected. I can foresee a future when human limbs become deformed, the body's joints won't move and internal organs will become dysfunctional. Modern science hasn't realized this yet.

At the beginning you asked why I did such things. I only tell practitioners, but not the public because they cannot comprehend it. I am trying to save those people who can return to a high level and to a high moral level. Modern science does not understand this, so governments can do nothing. The only person in the entire world who knows this is myself alone.

I am not against the public knowing, but I am teaching practitioners. Even though the public knows, it cannot do anything about it. People can't free themselves from science and from their concepts. I am not against science. I am only telling mankind the truth. I drive a car. I also live in the environment. Don't believe that I am against science. But I know that modern science is destroying mankind. Aliens have already constructed a layer of cells in human beings. The development of computers dictates this layer of body cells to control human culture and spirituality and in the end to replace human beings.

PS: Oppose the communist party´s persecution of Falun Dafa cultivators: faluninfo.net...

Originally posted by annabanana
I think this is a very interesting post--it always mindboggles me to see the different responses that come in from the other posters, somewhere beteen the illusionists and the sceptics there must be the truths.

If you wish to become more skeptical, spend some time reading the various "Predictions" forums on ATS, and start at the beginning. Count how many things that were accurately predicted (not vague generalities) actually happened in the time frame given.

Saying "aliens will attack the Earth on 13 October, 2010" is a reasonable prediction, and instantly verified as false on 14 October. Saying "there will be a war in the Middle East before 2015" is not reasonable, because it takes no insight to claim this.

Go back just one month, and you'll see multiple people saying "October 2010 is the month it hits the fan!" with supporting claims of the Rapture on the 10th, vague doom and gloom on the 11th, said alien invasion on the 13th, a green comet that would require everyone to stay inside for three days on the 20th, and so on. None of which happened, obviously, so now people are saying "November 2010 is the month it hits the fan!"

I'll make a bold, eerily accurate prediction here: within a month, people on ATS will be posting "December 2010 is the month it hits the fan!" :-)

And just to add another two cents: I've often wondered myself, and indeed, have felt, as if I'm being monitored.

Technically, this is paranoia, and a lot of people have such feelings. Hanging around places like ATS and eagerly accepting too much information non-critically can promote these feelings, in my opinion.

reply to post by adjensen

Philosophy and Metaphysics: This new AboveTopSecret.com forum is for the discussion of a wide range of non-religous topics: Consciousness, Mind, Epistemology, Psychology, Philosophy, Metaphysics, Self-Empowerment, Knowledge and also fringe subjects such as Mind-Control and Psychotronic Manipulation. All in all this will be an \\\"intellectual & philosophical cafe\\\" with a focus on everything from mental relaxing and non-religious personal balance, to conspiracies and speculation related to influencing the mind.

Please read the above very carefully. Please then consider that you have never personally received any messages that you will consciously allow yourself to acknowledge. After this has been well and truly pondered, please understand that this is a discussion forum. Only when one has had these experiences can one comprehend the situation. By all means do ask questions and display interest and curiosity, but do not condemn nor attempt to diagnose. This is real. It happens. It is not abnormal. It is to be acknowledged, discussed, and considered with amusement and curiosity.

Those who receive these messages have already had to question our own sanity. We have wondered quite seriously the whys and wherefores. But when you know a thing is true, there is no denying it. Accept it, know it, and share it -- that's why the messages are sent.

In probably 2006, I got the date "17 OCTOBER" blasted in my eyes as I was waiting at a bus stop. I thought someone was telling me that that's when the first frost would come to my town. I didn't understand anything then. Dates are dates are dates, until they come with more info. As the OP stated, the messages come in the form of feelings, a sort of cloudy haze of emotions that later form themselves into worded messages, as best they can. That's why dates are difficult. The future is difficult. Things change. Your world of linear time is pure illusion. That's not how things "really" are, because nothing really is as we think it is.

Please use this forum with a considerably more open mind. This is not for tangibles, this is for more ethereal and teleological matters.

reply to post by keepingaopenmind


Well I certainly feel something in your posts, and that's what you believe to be the honest truth .. it's pure sincerity. As for the message, I must admit that I think you're disillusioned, but I'm sure you expected some people to comment as such. Because you seem to be such a nice chap, I'll not speak any ill of you. I'd just like to comment that humanity is far too culturally divided to come together as a whole, when it's oh so badly needed right here and now! I actually think the exact opposite is best for the wisest of us. Go against all societal and cultural bounds, and do what you must to ensure the survival of your family/group in the coming years/decades.

Peace.

Originally posted by CosmicEgg
Please use this forum with a considerably more open mind. This is not for tangibles, this is for more ethereal and teleological matters.

I am a proponent of having an open mind. I am not a proponent of having one's mind so far open that one's brains tumble out.

I never said that no one can have a vision, message or other event that defies conventional explanation. What I said was that this forum is chuck full of failures in predictions, to the point that I suspect the likelihood of any given proclamation being correct is rapidly approaching zero.

You say that you received a message about a date, but nothing else. Now, either you will spend the rest of your life looking for something to happen on that day, or you will set it aside and recognize that sometimes our brains do goofy things, and getting an impression of a date, or looking at a clock and seeing that it says 11:11 or a myriad of other "random" events doesn't mean anything until you have something concrete to say about it.

Either the OP is having a go at us, or he truly believes that he's getting messages of a very bizarre nature. If he's getting these messages (and no one else is,) he is either imagining it, having some mental issues, or they are legitimate. Of those three, the only "important" one is that he might be having mental issues which may point to an underlying medical problem. The first is unimportant, as it's the equivalent of him pulling our legs, the last is unimportant, because it will be evident if/when it happens.

Again, if you find value in a forum where people are consistently wrong, that's great, but don't start planning your behaviour around such prognostications, which is what I was warning about.

reply to post by adjensen


You may find it bizarre: I don't. I understand exactly what the OP experiences because they are uncannily similar to my own regular experiences. There is nothing bizarre about it anymore. It just is what it is until it becomes something else.

I don't sit around every 17 Oct waiting for something to happen. I didn't understand what it meant then, I don't understand it now, it doesn't matter if I never understand it. If the meaning becomes clear some day, then fine, but I'm hardly chewing my nails over it. You make it seem as though there are few options in this instance: You're either mad as a hatter or you have a rational, mundane view of things. Your world is still very small. Perhaps you could open your mind a little wider.

There is more going on than most people can imagine. Some are privy to great information that is still secreted away from the vast majority of us. There are many more who have a view/ear/hand on still other things - one or more "secrets" - and seem to know the unknowable. Within those, there are varying degrees of "access" to information. I have very little access but I do have some. The OP seems to have very similar but he has chosen to share his info bravely, boldly, and it is simply unacceptable that some of you out there choose to belittle him for it. Quite simply, you know not of what you speak, therefore you would do well to hold commentary until you have relevant, applicable, first-hand information. What you attempting is tantamount to a man telling a woman that menstrual cramps are imaginary. And how would a man have such information? He wouldn't, therefore his opinion is irrelevant. Unfortunately and with all due respect, that is the status of your opinion on this matter.

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Originally posted by CosmicEgg
reply to post by adjensen

 

You may find it bizarre: I don't.

It IS bizarre. It is preposterous and nonsensical. Does that mean that it is impossible or false? No! But it is so far removed from reality that only its actual occurrence should sway anyone other than the guy who wrote it up.

There is more going on than most people can imagine.

No disagreement there.

Quite simply, you know not of what you speak, therefore you would do well to hold commentary until you have relevant, applicable, first-hand information.

To the contrary, I'm pretty sure that I'm better informed than you think. But more importantly, I understand people better than you seem to, and apply that to the credibility of statements that people make.

What you attempting is tantamount to a man telling a woman that menstrual cramps are imaginary.

I assure you that I would never imagine to tell a woman that menstrual cramps are imaginary. Even if I thought that, I know the sort of reaction it would generate "at that time of the month", lol.

And how would a man have such information? He wouldn't, therefore his opinion is irrelevant. Unfortunately and with all due respect, that is the status of your opinion on this matter.

Well, no, that's your opinion of my opinion. To say that a skeptic is not entitled to be skeptical, or a rationalist to rationalize is to make an unfair condemnation.

Let's just say that I prefer to go through life being amazed periodically, rather than being disappointed constantly.

Originally posted by CosmicEgg
reply to post by adjensen

 

Philosophy and Metaphysics: This new AboveTopSecret.com forum is for the discussion of a wide range of non-religous topics: Consciousness, Mind, Epistemology, Psychology, Philosophy, Metaphysics, Self-Empowerment, Knowledge and also fringe subjects such as Mind-Control and Psychotronic Manipulation. All in all this will be an \\\"intellectual & philosophical cafe\\\" with a focus on everything from mental relaxing and non-religious personal balance, to conspiracies and speculation related to influencing the mind.

Please read the above very carefully. Please then consider that you have never personally received any messages that you will consciously allow yourself to acknowledge. After this has been well and truly pondered, please understand that this is a discussion forum. Only when one has had these experiences can one comprehend the situation. By all means do ask questions and display interest and curiosity, but do not condemn nor attempt to diagnose. This is real. It happens. It is not abnormal. It is to be acknowledged, discussed, and considered with amusement and curiosity.

Those who receive these messages have already had to question our own sanity. We have wondered quite seriously the whys and wherefores. But when you know a thing is true, there is no denying it. Accept it, know it, and share it -- that's why the messages are sent.

In probably 2006, I got the date "17 OCTOBER" blasted in my eyes as I was waiting at a bus stop. I thought someone was telling me that that's when the first frost would come to my town. I didn't understand anything then. Dates are dates are dates, until they come with more info. As the OP stated, the messages come in the form of feelings, a sort of cloudy haze of emotions that later form themselves into worded messages, as best they can. That's why dates are difficult. The future is difficult. Things change. Your world of linear time is pure illusion. That's not how things "really" are, because nothing really is as we think it is.

Please use this forum with a considerably more open mind. This is not for tangibles, this is for more ethereal and teleological matters.

Being the very 'down to earth' person I am ... who refuses to take things of this nature (including my own experiences which are many) at face value ... and having an almost phobic reaction to New-age terminology ... it really pains me to admit this but 'SCEPTICS' and 'NAYSAYERS' ... the post above is absolutely correct.

If you haven't had the personal experience then logic and common-sense dictate that you should hold an element of healthy sceptisism but remember that is a very different thing from 'blanket dismissal'.

And even if you have had some experience in such things you should still look for rational explanations before accepting the obvious ... to accept blindly makes you dillusional.

The trick is to keep an open mind and strike a balance in all things.

Woody (sorry normal service will now be resumed ... continue)

reply to post by woodwytch


It's "delusional" and I am not asking anyone who has not experienced these things to understand. But neither is it within their right to cast aspersions. My great uncle was colorblind in a way that he could only see the color yellow. No other color was within his visual capacity. But he never said that that was the only color. He never doubted that there were many other colors. In the same way, I say that if you cannot sense, detect, witness the same as others, that is not their shortcoming. Look at yourselves too. Are you actually paying attention to your surroundings?

Since I've had these experiences for many years and function quite well in society, communicate well, manage my affairs well, and have healthy relationships with family and friends, I see no reason (anymore) to look further than what is plainly obvious - should one occasion to look beyond the mundane. Accepting only the "rational" is small-minded once the mind has been expanded. I have seen things in meditation that will only be confirmed in the future, at some point. I have said things for years that are only coming true now. Nonetheless, they are true. I was called crazy then, you can continue calling me crazy, but the fact of the matter is I know what I know.

reply to post by keepingaopenmind



Thanks for the compassion for our lives and souls keepingaopenmind. I have been sensing some in the vicinity but not sure if they are good or bad its hard to seperate their energies because they are different in many ways but same somehow in ways aswell. As far as going with them this will be a major decision. I myself welcome ET not alien beings. But am intelligent enough to see that they can easily decieve us so I will follow my hearts decision and hopefully help out were I can. interesting post S&F

Originally posted by CosmicEgg
reply to post by woodwytch

 

It's "delusional" and I am not asking anyone who has not experienced these things to understand. But neither is it within their right to cast aspersions. My great uncle was colorblind in a way that he could only see the color yellow. No other color was within his visual capacity. But he never said that that was the only color. He never doubted that there were many other colors. In the same way, I say that if you cannot sense, detect, witness the same as others, that is not their shortcoming. Look at yourselves too. Are you actually paying attention to your surroundings?

Since I've had these experiences for many years and function quite well in society, communicate well, manage my affairs well, and have healthy relationships with family and friends, I see no reason (anymore) to look further than what is plainly obvious - should one occasion to look beyond the mundane. Accepting only the "rational" is small-minded once the mind has been expanded. I have seen things in meditation that will only be confirmed in the future, at some point. I have said things for years that are only coming true now. Nonetheless, they are true. I was called crazy then, you can continue calling me crazy, but the fact of the matter is I know what I know.

Thanks for the spelling lesson (good to see you picked-up on the most important part of my post) ... consider my wrist well and truly slapped ... and be sure that it will forever more be 'DELUSIONAL' (as it should be) please accept my most sincere apologies for the poor spelling that so obviously offended you.

However, there's really no need to be so defensive (did I spell that right ) ... if you'd read my post properly instead of getting hung-up on what you thought you'd read then you would have seen that I was actually agreeing with you ... but don't worry it is not a mistake I will make a second time.

Enjoy your life. Woody

reply to post by keepingaopenmind

I do not know of what tactics they will use, But unless you have accepted to go with them, This will be your choice.

I just get the feeling this has something to do with the mark of the beast. There is this familiar undertone of having to make a choice between 'going with them' or posessing your own soul.

Revelation 14:9
And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark 'in his forehead' or in his hand.

Consider Drunvalos' accounts of travelling into space with aliens. He really thinks he is there but meanwhile he has only been in meditation. He hasn't gone anywhere it was literally all in his head (..in his forehead)

This is what I think of when I hear these accounts. There will be no actual mothership taking anybody anwhere, it will be their heads but the people will actually believe that they have travelled somewhere. This is the 'merkabah'.

Hello again to all. I think some more responses are in order.

Did you also receive a symbol having to do with eyes, the sun, and another object?

No, I am sorry to say, I have seen no such things, But I am very interested in what you have seen, I f would like to send me a private message to tell me, or on here, it would be greatly appreciated. I always love to hear what other experience. I will ask you also, Have you ever had things happen that you have thought about with precision of exactly what you want to happen or come out, and eventually it happens or comes out? Just curious because this is something that I have proved time and time again, with friends and my family, to show them also there is more to thing's around us than most realize.

Please turn off your TVs, your radios, your computers (at least for a while). Ignore "current events". Get to know your family, your neighbors, your community. Find a place near you where Man has yet to spoil entirely and feel Nature.

This is something I have been telling people for years, And you know what, Sometimes it is like talking to a brick wall. What surprises me more, is that when A high profile person, such as Michael Jackson, Can pass on so many strong messages to people through music, And most people sit back and say, Gee thanks was a good song, And totally miss the whole message, and go about their every day life. I believe towards the end of his life, he himself had seen this and had almost given up, because like I said, I feels like sometimes you are talking to a brick wall. I believe all these things such as TV, radios not so much and internet are a huge part with the behavior of people.

The heart is the seat of wisdom and knowledge, not the brain.

Great Quote

At times I have been "hit" with information seemingly to come from "above". To me, this "above" has been almost as if it were being "downloaded" through the top of my head.

Yes it is sort of like being downloaded into the mind. Which is another thing I am always questioning, That maybe we are hooked up to some sort of advance computer system. I have had one to many, of what some call coincidences, that have happened through out my life, to keep me thinking about this.

You might be interested in reading this interview from1999 with Master Li Hongzhi, the founder of Falun Dafa, a self-cultivation method based on Truthfulness-Benevolence-Forbearance and currently heavily persecuted in China.

Cool, thanks very much for that, I will bookmark it for now, And hopefully I will get some time later to read it. I dose look interesting though

I'll make a bold, eerily accurate prediction here: within a month, people on ATS will be posting "December 2010 is the month it hits the fan!" :-)

This is a good prediction, And I am with you that this will happen also But I do the problem I am talking about, has already started as of the beginning of the year, and will carry on until who knows when. I personally do not follow dates, as you have noticed they are hardly ever correct. The feeling that is coming over me, is a big disturbance within the energy it self. I don't know whether you have noticed this, But I keep a very good eye on the stars and even the sunrise/sunset and moonrise/moonset. I have noticed that the earth is going through a very dangerous wobble. I have said this to my dad, and told him I can tell him every time there will be a big earthquake. From my house as we live in a high set house, I use next doors roof, as a way to measure the movement of the sunrise and moon rise. He didn't believe me until I told him roughly when the next one would be, and of course it happened within the week of telling him. He asked how did I know? So I showed him that each time the moon reaches the point of the top of next doors house, is when one occurs, then when it gets down to the bottom of the roof it happens again. It's sort of like we are bouncing way to much on our axis, and when it reaches this bounce point, We seem to have another big earthquake, the next will be due within the next week, as the moon has nearly reached the top point of the roof again. I am sure others have noticed this as well, but it has been a lot worse this year alone. Last year, it only went half way up there roof, and then back down again. Whether this is what is happen, cause the whole of the energy on the planet to be shifting way too much, I do not know. But it is a weird coincidence.

I must admit that I think you're disillusioned, but I'm sure you expected some people to comment as such. Because you seem to be such a nice chap, I'll not speak any ill of you.

Thank you for being so kind You my brother, are proof that humans have it within them to change, And this is the faith I have for everyone. You would be very surprised on how many people are beginning to open up to change. So please I must ask you not to give up on people, it is only through us, that people can at least have some help to change. An old saying, " I can show you the door, but only you can walk through it "

Thanks for the compassion for our lives and souls keepingaopenmind. I have been sensing some in the vicinity but not sure if they are good or bad its hard to seperate their energies because they are different in many ways but same somehow in ways aswell. As far as going with them this will be a major decision. I myself welcome ET not alien beings. But am intelligent enough to see that they can easily decieve us so I will follow my hearts decision and hopefully help out were I can. interesting post S&F

Thank you very much, and you are most welcome

A big thank you to all of you again, it is very much appreciated, for all the support, I do realize a lot of what people like myself say, can be quite a bit to swallow. So thanks again, for showing respect, it truley shows me people are beginning to open there minds a little enough to except differences.

Much love, peace and respect to each and every one of you

Rick

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I have learned, over time, that details are best left to Fate. I put out the idea of what I would like to have happen and let the cards fall where they may. But yes, that is some of the best fun I've had lately: Learning to create. Or rather, learning how my will creates. And the fundamental ingredient in this particular recipe is faith. When you know it to be true, so it is. Doubt is the poison that is destroying the world we have now. And look where that doubt comes from.

I will message you the details of that symbol. I have yet to meet anyone else who has received it, but I'm sure I'm not the only one. There was just too much detail for me to have imagined it - and it's not imagery that I would have chosen on my own.