Bright lights over Auckland New Zealand 31 October 2010( ytube vid)

I could be wrong but I don't think we'll see NZE replying on here anytime soon.

Just a hunch!

reply to post by Slippery Jim


Yeah, but at least the request has been put forward. I think from now on any Youtube UFO vid that could be explained as planes taking off or landing without at least a reasonable generalized location attached to it in its description goes automatically into the 'plane' category.

Not providing that information shows the video taker has no real want to work out or help others work out what it could be they saw.

Originally posted by BigfootNZNot providing that information shows the video taker has no real want to work out or help others work out what it could be they saw.]

Not providing that info suggests he is faking.

It looks like airoplanes coming in to land.

What else can I say?

Originally posted by Slippery Jim
I could be wrong but I don't think we'll see NZE replying on here anytime soon.

Just a hunch!

my hunch is that because of the welcome from some members
he thought it was a waste of time to disscuss this with people
who had already made up there minds before hereing from the source

i dont blame him if he doesnt come back
the reception was appalling

then you claim if he doesnt come back hes a hoaxer well
if everyone that posted here got that responce

no one would bother shareing

shame on you

a new member and all

xp

Originally posted by XPLodER
my hunch is that because of the welcome from some members
he thought it was a waste of time to disscuss this with people
who had already made up there minds before hereing from the source

i dont blame him if he doesnt come back
the reception was appalling

Can I point out that the "he" didn't make the original post.

then you claim if he doesnt come back hes a hoaxer well

I would love him to come back and debate his point but he someohow feels he can't do that.

if everyone that posted here got that responce no one would bother shareing

We positively encourage everyone to post their experiences. We want to hear them. We want to see them

shame on you
a new member and all
xp

I'm sorry you feel that way.

Best wishes,
Slippery Jim.

reply to post by BigfootNZ

I agree with everything you said. The lack of information is one of the things that always helps draw opinions here unfortunately. Any sightings in my opinion should always include detailed information about the event to help substantiate the authenticity of it. It's one of the many criteria I personally look for in these videos.

reply to post by XPLodER

I think it's common knowledge between us that we don't agree on at least some, if not all, of the UFO sightings you post. You've encountered posts and attacks a lot worse than the opinions posted about this video and stuck with your take on them. The NYC UFO's especially come to mind. While I may not agree with you I do respect the persistence you have for these even if it drives me a bit crazy at times. I honestly don't think the welcome after or opinions posted before he showed up were that negative; they were opinions based on limited information. A topic like this requires at least a small amount of thick skin to stand up for what you believe and this one really hasn't been that bad; seriously. If anything I would expect you to support, coach and encourage him to tell his story because I'll always at least give you that EXPLodER, even when I disagree with you which seems often if not always here.

I don't think any part of your post was directed at me but I personally encourage the poster for more details and prove us wrong.

reply to post by Three_moons


i like your attitude
i like your aproach = more info

im glad that we can have different points of veiw and still discuss this thread

im from new zealand and from auckland

my opinion is that while most lights such as these have common explinations
untill we allow members to expand on why they think these are really unusual
we may miss some important stuff

thank you for your post im adding you as a friend
even if we differ on opinion we can still share points of veiw

thanks

xploder
ps i still dispute the planes theory on my 13/10/10 footage but accept the different ideas around

Hmm looked through NZE's youtube channel, closest reference to an area in Auckland was Silverdale for one of his orb vids... everything else just indicates Auckland City. Which is quite interesting to say the least because well would you look at that...Silverdales about 4-5km from the North Shore Aerodrome.

Interesting he has the 'NYC Oct 13th' earthcam(?) UFO vids as well but at least they put a ? by them... even though we know they where planes which to me shows that NZE might have a particular outlook about them which could color their ability to discern things. Anyone who considers that event proof of UFO's should have their own evidence heavily scrutinized.

He's got some interesting vids though that dont really look like planes all that much so I give NZE that, although most if not all could still be bad focused shots of planes at a distance, knowing what capabilities their camera has in taking night time footage would be good. I do though like the ones he has of the circular pattern of lights that then gets a bright orange light underneath, that one is interesting. Although in some frames it looks exactly like a regular commercial airplane, tail light at back, central red light, and left and right wing lights either side of it.

One of the Orb vids sounds very suspicious, and looks like it could easily be Venus given my own personal experience viewing that planet, Seeing the observation time is given as an hour or so it could well be Venus visible through partial cloud cover, its a rather fast setting planet to boot and very colorful and scintillating as NZE describes and as you see in the vid. Also given the date of 19th of Oct and time of 8:44pm that would put Venus around the right elevation to more or less take that hour to set. I know that with my own sighting 2 weeks back that Venus was setting more or less around 9:20ish pm.

But I find his still shots showing Orbs leaving trails a little bit of a laugh, there identical to the effect you get when you set up a camera to take a long exposure shot of a star at night while resting a camera on something or in your hands... ive got ones identical to it on my own camera I took of the stars Rigel Kent and Hadar when I was experimenting with night photography 2 weeks ago. While he doesn't claim anything about the trails even if they are photos of real orbs the fact their blurred and leaving those trails thanks to over exposure and a shaky hand and lack of a tripod ruins anything the photo could provide as evidence.

Wish they had more info about each vid rather than half a sentence...

Another thing ive just thought of... he mentions he has an elevation for observation of 1350ft above sea level?... there's a slight problem with that... thats 405 meters... I dont think theres any place in Auckland as far as I can remember that high, hell the top of Rangitoto is 260 meters and its at Sea Level... hell the only place I could think that would be that height would be at the top of the Sky Tower which is 328 meters tall, not sure of its height above Sea Level but id guess 40-60ish meters above sea level, its fairly close to the harbor. Even the Bombay Hills that sit at the edge of Auckland are only around 314 meters above sea level from what I can find so where is this all encompassing vantage point NZE lays claim to?

Given the possible Silverdale local id say thats the region most of the vids where taken with the one posted and discussed in this thread having been taken possibly at Long Bay beach towards the North Shore Aerodrome with the Okura scenic reserve being the wooded hills we see at the bottom of the video?.. more than likely it may have even been taken at the Okura scenic reserve. Could be well wrong but it fits the area and its topology in my mind.

If you read this NZE... throw us a bone and tell us the location you took the vids at it'll clear up a huge amount of guess work and will either verify or vilify most of your claims. If you value finding answers Id greatly recommend it. (Think I might leave a Youtube comment asking about it).


Edit:- Hmm scrap the Okura reserve idea above since in the vid you can see on the downward jerky pan its got some rather open farm land in the area. Looking at it I THINK the sun is setting to the right of frame which if filmed from Silverdale or to the west of Silverdale looking towards the NS aerodrome that would be in the right place ti would be setting. Also in the second vid in this thread its interesting that the light fades as it begins to slow down and starts to drop, which could indicate a plane beginning moving into a turn. If you notice in the first vid the second light also starts to fade and drop and then begins to move back towards the left in the exactly same spot as the light in the second vid begins to descend at virtually the same height in relation to the 'branch'... this indicates a repeated pattern and a possible landing flight path for planes. That second vid is very compressed and has lost a huge amount of detail...

Id say the two vids in this thread are nothing more than planes descending for landing at the NS aerodrome catching the light of the setting/just set sun along with their own wing lights.

reply to post by BigfootNZ


star for being on the ball
i would like the guy to come back to ask him location questions myself
as well as some other interesting questions

xp

Originally posted by XPLodER
reply to post by Three_moons

 

im glad that we can have different points of veiw and still discuss this thread

Me too.

That's the way it's supposed to actually work around here for everyone I believe. I know, good luck with that dream.




Now where's newzealandembassy? I still want some details