Think You Know Everything About The Gulf Oil Spill? Well Think Again! Prepare To Be Rocked To Th

reply to post by Pervius


I'm not talking about weapons of mass destruction, I'm talking about flu's and other disease's. If you have a healthy body at least you have a chance against some of these virus'. Just chock yourselves up with anti oxidants, hit the gym (well maybe not if some virus breaks out), and meditate!

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Quick someone get Erin Brockovich on the case!

I smell a class action law suit brewing, and we may all get a piece of the pie when its all said and done.

The Big Oil co's are always getting caught doing really effed up environmental scandals, with little to no concern for the average living thing who will inevitably be affected.

My parents have a rental property that was once an oil drilling site owned by Shell Oil. Guess what? The property value is nearly worthless because everyone who lived in that neighborhood has some form of cancer. The soil was tested and of course was contaminated. Shell was called in to clean up, and pay for the damages. Its been six years now, and Shell has done nothing. Supposedly, they are still in the "testing" phase, because they dont really believe the soil is contaminated. This is after they already came out and admitted it was, and promised to make it right. Now they back pedal and employ stall tactics. You will never hear this on the news, meanwhile Shell is raking in Buh Buh Billions.

Nice......

In my eyes, BP is doing the same thing. Admit, make promises, and now they are all pointing fingers. Where the F---- is the acceptance of responsibility?!

In-other-words, get ready for a "DNA spill". This artificial DNA (ADNA) is going to spill into all of our cells instead of just oil into the ocean.

Interesting and concerning thread...thanks for the hard work and honesty! Even if only one part of this turns out to be "true" it's terribly scary.

Is there nobody who would report such important facts to the general public? If this is indeed a fast moving, potentially contagious germ you'd think someone would have the guts to get the word out?I am been suspect all along of motives and actions because of the bizarre media-blackout from the git-go regarding the "oil spill" and BP.
Just too quiet and too calm for the reality of it and we all spoonfed/swallow it down with a smile. (most anyways)

Probably because there is no simple "solution" nor have the opportunities to profit from it all been made clear as of yet...

I don't even think class action or "lawsuits" caould scratch the surface of the henious chanin of events that include everything related to the oil well/spills/and resulting problems and I agree no one will ever be held "accountable" in the broadest sense of the word.I think it's the start of a massive diversion and another huge lie/coverup that will yet again be perpetrated to scare/control/and profit from the masses or what's left of us.

There are easier and more humane ways to kill off the population: I believe the information we have access to is truly scaring TPTB and ALL of the layers of lies relating to finances and "life as we know it" are starting to un-ravel very quickly need to now be diverted to something that will reel us in with FEAR of survival and this is truly some scary chit.

I applaud your efforts and hope those affected will find help and peace...a lot to try and absorb.

Does anyone know how many people are sick with this new virus. what are the ideas on how it spreads?

To be honest, I don't know what to think about all of this.
Interesting/concerning theory, certainly...

And here I thought Canada was a safe place...

Gosh Darn monopoly Corporations!

I'm intrigued. Will read it.

We've not had any rain here in a long time, but recently we did. My fish pond got full, I'd been just filling it up with the hose, my fish are a few years old and very tame and the chlorine never bothers them when we put in just a bit.

Well after that rain my fish were gasping for air. My husband was saying something had got in the water and I told him maybe it was the rain. I started dumping water out and replacing it with the hose and the fish finally got ok.
It was weird. It freaked me out a bit. We're in GA. I clicked on this topic b.c. I think the rain nearly killed my fish.

God I hate it when y'all "make me"be a grownup and start thinking and reading,LOL! Kidding of course...

Reading around a bit,I noticed the re-birth of a thread here regarding "superbugs":

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Okay: are there indeed "dots" that start to connect? How will the obviously scary situation going on the in GOM be portrayed? Connections to these worldwide instances?

I am intrigued.

Here's a little story...

I live in a town called Fort Wayne, Indiana. Starting a couple of weeks ago, a wierd smell began permeating the entire city. (we are not a small town, by the way. Second largest in Indiana.)

There've been numerous news reports on it, and supposedly investigations into what the smell is, and where it is coming from, but so far no one knows.

Since the smell began, there have been MANY people getting sick with a flu-like illness. My whole family has it (including me at the moment), and it is one nasty little bug.

Then a few days ago, we had a pretty major wind storm come through (it was the one that hit the whole midwest, for those of you who might remember... we had multiple funnels hit the area around us), and since then, the smell has been gone.

Now, I am not saying that this is related to the issue at hand, but it really does make one wonder. It IS a concern, however, when a strange manure smell pervades an area for many square miles, for more than a couple of weeks, with no clue where it had come from, and, at the same time, an illness spreads through the area like mad.

Strange days, indeed.

reply to post by paxnatus


The indulgence of our lives
Has cast a shadow on our world.
Our devotion to our appetites
Betrayed us all.

An apocalyptic plight.
More destruction will unfold.
Mother Earth will show her darker side
And take her toll.
~disturbed

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Originally posted by DarkRift
Could this possibly be linked to the news i heard last week regarding an antibiotic resistant bug showing it's ugly head in the UK hospitals

I don't think SYNTHIA is the same as NDM-1 if these pictures are anything to go by.

SYNTHIA:

NDM-1:

Enter the Industrial Plague. May your God have mercy, because nature will sure the hell not.

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Raising my hand in Ks. I've watched the sky over my head for a very long time. I know about light pollution, hazes that are practically biblical, how the storms work...as I said. A long time. Shortly after the gusher I started noticing what can only be described as baby poop yellow sky as the sun was setting but still light. It isn't a pretty sight. We did have great open blue skies here. Even the storms are a wonder to behold. In all my time in this state I have never seen anything like this.

My apology. Double post.

I have had the same dream so many nights,I'm standing somewhere,I don't know where,I hear this loud sound,so loud,a loud rumble,I look to the horizon and fear strikes me to my very soul,I am afraid,horrified and I am sad all at the same time,I know I am about to die,will god accept me?oh god forgive me...on the far horizon the mushroom cloud rises higher and higher,it seems it will never stop,and then I don't feel anything,no pain,no burning,I do not suffer,it is over....I wake up in a cold sweat,I'm breathing so hard.I sit up and try to collect my thoughts,I am safe now,or am I?am I really safe?

I've been under the belief that governments all over and even unnamed entities would love to reduce the population of the Earth for many years now. Afterall, it's easier to control 10 million idiots than 5 billion idiots. I sure the Hell hope Synthia is a farse because if not, my nightmares have just come true.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the H1N1 fiasco was potentially a man-made precursor of what's to come. A test run, if you will. Anyone else think that may be the case?

BP dispersants 'causing sickness'

Investigation by Al Jazeera online correspondent finds toxic illnesses linked to BP oil dispersants along Gulf coast.
Dahr Jamail Last Modified: 29 Oct 2010 16:01 GMT

Denise Rednour of Long Beach, Mississippi, has been sick with chemical poisoning since July [Erika Blumenfeld]

Two-year-old Gavin Tillman of Pass Christian, Mississippi, has been diagnosed with severe upper respiratory, sinus, and viral infections. His temperature has reached more than 39 degrees since September 15, yet his sicknesses continue to worsen.

His parents, some doctors, and environmental consultants believe the child's ailments are linked to exposure to chemicals spilt by BP during its Gulf of Mexico oil disaster.

Gavin's father, mother, and cousin, Shayleigh, are also facing serious health problems. Their symptoms are being experienced by many others living along the coast of the Gulf of Mexico.

Widely banned toxic dispersants

Injected with at least 4.9 million barrels of oil during the BP oil disaster of last summer, the Gulf has suffered the largest accidental marine oil spill in history. Compounding the problem, BP has admitted to using at least 1.9 million gallons of widely banned toxic dispersants (one that has been banned in the UK), which according to chemist Bob Naman, create an even more toxic substance when mixed with crude oil. And dispersed, weathered oil continues to flow ashore daily.

Naman, who works at the Analytical Chemical Testing Lab in Mobile, Alabama, has been carrying out studies to search for the chemical markers of the dispersants BP used to both sink and break up its oil.

According to Naman, poly-aromatic hydrocarbons (PAHs) from this toxic mix are making people sick. PAHs contain compounds that have been identified as carcinogenic, mutagenic, and teratogenic.

Fisherman across the four states most heavily affected by the oil disaster - Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, and Florida - have reported seeing BP spray dispersants from aircraft and boats offshore.

"The dispersants are being added to the water and are causing chemical compounds to become water soluble, which is then given off into the air, so it is coming down as rain, in addition to being in the water and beaches of these areas of the Gulf," Naman added.

"I’m scared of what I'm finding. These cyclic compounds intermingle with the Corexit [dispersants] and generate other cyclic compounds that aren’t good. Many have double bonds, and many are on the EPA's danger list. This is an unprecedented environmental catastrophe."

Commercial fisherman Donny Matsler also lives in Alabama.

"I was with my friend Albert, and we were both slammed with exposure," Matsler explained of his experience on August 5, referring to toxic chemicals he inhaled that he believes are associated with BP's dispersants. "We both saw the clumps of white bubbles on the surface that we know come from the dispersed oil."

Gruesome symptoms

"I started to vomit brown, and my pee was brown also," Matsler, a Vietnam veteran who lives in Dauphin Island, said. "I kept that up all day. Then I had a night of sweating and non-stop diarrhea unlike anything I’ve ever experienced."

He was also suffering from skin rashes, nausea, and a sore throat.

At roughly the same time Matsler was exposed, local television station WKRG News 5 took a water sample from his area to test for dispersants. The sample literally exploded when it was mixed with an organic solvent separating the oil from the water.

Naman, the chemist who analyzed the sample, said: "We think that it most likely happened due to the presence of either methanol or methane gas or the presence of the dispersant Corexit."

"I'm still feeling terrible," Matsler told Al Jazeera recently. "I'm about to go to the doctor again right now. I'm short of breathe, the diarrhea has been real bad, I still have discoloration in my urine, and the day before yesterday, I was coughing up white foam with brown spots in it."

As for Matsler's physical reaction to his exposure, Hugh Kaufman, an EPA whistleblower and analyst, has reported this of the effects of the toxic dispersants:

"We have dolphins that are hemorrhaging. People who work near it are hemorrhaging internally. And that’s what dispersants are supposed to do..."

By the middle of last summer, the Alabama Department of Public Health said that 56 people in Mobile and Baldwin counties had sought treatment for what they believed were oil disaster-related illnesses.


A dispersed oil tar ball in Orange Beach, Alabama [Erika Blumenfeld]

"The dispersants used in BP's draconian experiment contain solvents such as petroleum distillates and 2-butoxyethanol," Dr. Riki Ott, a toxicologist, marine biologist, and Exxon Valdez survivor, told Al Jazeera.

"Solvents dissolve oil, grease, and rubber," she continued, "Spill responders have told me that the hard rubber impellors in their engines and the soft rubber bushings on their outboard motor pumps are falling apart and need frequent replacement."

"Given this evidence, it should be no surprise that solvents are also notoriously toxic to people, something the medical community has long known," Dr. Ott added.

"In 'Generations at Risk', medical doctor Ted Schettler and others warn that solvents can rapidly enter the human body. They evaporate in air and are easily inhaled, they penetrate skin easily, and they cross the placenta into fetuses. For example, 2- butoxyethanol (in Corexit) is a human health hazard substance; it is a fetal toxin and it breaks down blood cells, causing blood and kidney disorders."

Pathways of exposure to the dispersants are inhalation, ingestion, skin, and eye contact. Health impacts include headaches, vomiting, diarrhea, abdominal pains, chest pains, respiratory system damage, skin sensitization, hypertension, central nervous system depression, neurotoxic effects, genetic mutations, cardiac arrhythmia, and cardiovascular damage.

Even the federal government has taken precautions for its employees. US military officials decided to reroute training flights in the Gulf region in order to avoid oil and dispersant tainted-areas.

Growing number of cases

And Al Jazeera is finding a growing number of illnesses across the Gulf Coast.

Denise Rednour of Long Beach, Mississippi, has been taking walks on Long Beach nearly every day since the disaster began on April 20, and she is dealing with constant health issues.

"I've had health problems since the middle of July," she said. "At the end of August, I came home from walking on the beach and for four days had bloody, mucus-filled diarrhea, dry heaves, and blood running out of my ear."

Karen Hopkins, in Grand Isle, Louisiana, has been sick since the middle of May. "I started feeling exhausted, disoriented, dizzy, nauseous, and my chest was burning and I can’t breath well at times," she said.

Dean Blanchard, who runs a seafood distribution business in Grand Isle, is Hopkins' boss. He too is experiencing similar symptoms.

"They [BP] are using us like lab rats," he explained, "I'm thinking of moving to Costa Rica. When I leave here I feel better. When I come back I feel bad again. Feeling tired, coughing, sore throat, burning eyes, headaches, just like everyone around here feels."

Lorrie Williams of Ocean Springs says her son's asthma has "gotten exponentially worse since BP released all their oil and dispersants into the Gulf."

"A plane flew over our house recently and sprayed what I believe are dispersants. A fine mist covered everything, and it smelled like pool chemicals. Noah is waking up unable to breath, and my husband has head and chest congestion and burning eyes," Williams said.

Like others, when Lorrie's family left the area for a vacation, they immediately felt better. But upon coming home, their symptoms returned.

Wilma Subra, a chemist in New Iberia, Louisiana, recently tested the blood of eight BP cleanup workers and residents in Alabama and Florida. "Ethylbenzene, m,p-Xylene and Hexane are volatile organic chemicals that are present in the BP Crude Oil," Subra said,

"The blood of all three females and five males had chemicals that are found in the BP Crude Oil. The acute impacts of these chemicals include nose and throat irritation, coughing, wheezing, lung irritation, dizziness, light-headedness, nausea and vomiting."

Indications of exposure

Subra explained that there has been long enough exposure so as to create chronic impacts, that include "liver damage, kidney damage, and damage to the nervous system. So the presence of these chemicals in the blood indicates exposure."

Testing by Subra has also revealed PAHs present "in coastal soil sediment, wetlands, and in crab, oyster and mussel tissues."

Trisha Springstead, is a registered nurse of 36 years who lives and works in Brooksville, Florida.

"What I'm seeing are toxified people who have been chemically poisoned," she said, "They have sore throats, respiratory problems, neurological problems, lesions, sores, and ulcers. These people have been poisoned and they are dying. Drugs aren’t going to help these people. They need to be detoxed."

Chemist Bob Naman described the brownish, rubbery tar balls that are a product of BP's dispersed oil that continue to wash up on beaches across the Gulf:

"Those are the ones kids are picking up and playing with and breathing the fumes that come off them when you crush them in your hand. These will affect anyone who comes into contact with it. You could have an open wound and this goes straight in. Women have a lot more open mucus membranes and they are getting sicker than men. They are bleeding from their vagina and anus. Small kids are bleeding from their ears. This stuff is busting red blood cells."

Dr Ott said: "People are already dying from this… I’m dealing with three autopsies' right now. I don’t think we’ll have to wait years to see the effects like we did in Alaska, people are dropping dead now. I know two people who are down to 4.75 per cent of their lung capacity, their heart has enlarged to make up for that, and their esophagus is disintegrating, and one of them is a 16-year-old boy who went swimming in the Gulf."

I really tried to read the report even after this line :

"...Since the micro-organism is created and gets its programming from computers, would we become subject to artificial electro-magnetic frequencies recognized by these genomes?"

I managed to make it only a few more until I found this:

"....it’s very possible that the U.S. federal corporation in DC was...."

It was at this point that I realized this report had no scientific basis and was far from credible IMO