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posted on Oct, 29 2010 @ 05:34 PM
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Originally posted by Trueman
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Thanks. Maybe someone have a chance to spot best natural refuges per state or country. As far as few ones can reach those points, can combine forces as a survival group.


Thanks back at you. This wonderful lady brings us point blank around to a situation none of us wish to face, but so many of us feel is coming.



posted on Oct, 29 2010 @ 05:54 PM
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Originally posted by dizziedame
My health will not allow me to bug out. I have planned to bug in.

But I do have a bag I keep in my truck if I am away from my house and can't get home right away.

In it I have a knife, string, tarp, wind up radio and flash light, three lighters, bug spray, fishing line , hooks and sinkers, water and a jar of peanut butter. And I always carry a hand gun and keep extra ammo with me.

That is a very simple bag for short term survival.

I would suggest that you talk with other parents and friends and find out what they are going to do.



Many people have formed small groups that will aid each other in a serious event.
There is strength in numbers.

You can have fun learning valuable lessons by taking your child/children camping.



I think you and me are in the same boat my friend - medically - some days its hard simply to breathe. I think we could suggest alternatives better if we knew where the op was located. I have a concealed carry permit and most times I carry. I cannot imagine a single woman with her child, unprotected in a total chaos scenario.



posted on Oct, 29 2010 @ 06:04 PM
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Originally posted by Rhebefree
reply to post by Rhebefree
 
hey thanks everyone for posting, I dont have time to read and reply to all the posts right now tho (house work beckons
) but I will be back later to take notes, so thanks!


You are certainly welcome. There are some pretty decent people on here, and some darn smart ones - I think you've found that out. If hugz aren't out of line I offer mine. Don't worry too much; as long as your baby is fine the world will go on.



posted on Oct, 29 2010 @ 06:06 PM
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I hope you are still there, I got 2 links here for you :

www.practicalsurvivor.com...

www.equipped.com...

I think once you read and learn those ones you will be ready. I got them printed.



posted on Oct, 30 2010 @ 05:17 AM
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unscented baby wipes are an excellent addition to any bug out bag. i also use them at work and have a couple of packs in my 32 year old wagon.
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posted on Nov, 1 2010 @ 09:16 AM
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Im with the CERT Team. Here is everything. Easy to assemble over time.

Anyone can reach me here. Mysterioustranger

Family Emergency Kit
Homeland Security –FEMA
CERT TEAM, Dearborn Mi

*Food:
MREs for 3 days
Instant Cereal
Instant Hot Chocolate
Food Bars

*Shelter/Bedding:
Tube Tent
Rain Poncho
Space Blanket
Wool Blanket
Sleeping Bags

*Water:
Water
Water Purification
Tablets

*Sanitation:
Toilet Paper
Soap/Shampoo
Toothbrush/Paste
Personal Hygiene Items

*Heat/Light:
Pocket Hand Warmers
Matches/Candles
Propane Stove
Fire Starter Kit
Flashlight
Gloves

*Misc. Items:
Extra set of Car Keys
Credit Cards and Case
List of Family Physicians
Special Items for Infants, Elderly or Disabled Family
1 Gallon of Water per person per day

*Communications:
Battery Powered Radio/Lighting
Extra Batteries

*First Aid Manual:
Sterile Adhesive Bandages
Sterile Gauze Pads
Hypoallergenic Adhesive Tape
Triangular Bandages
Roller Bandages - 2 & 3 inches
Scissors
Tweezers
Needle
Thermometer
Tongue Blades
Assorted Sizes of Safety Pins
Latex Gloves
Antiseptic Soap
Rubbing Alcohol
Cotton
Disposable Diapers
Insect Repellent
Moistened Towelettes
Antiseptic-Cream
Neosporin
Petroleum Jelly
Aspirin or
Non-Aspirin Pain Reliever
Laxatives
Anti-Diarrhea Medication
Syrup of Ipecac -
To induce vomiting if advised
by Poison Control
Antacid
Sterile Adhesive Bandages
in assorted Sizes

Special Medications for Family
• Prescription and Non- prescription Medicines.
• Tools, Equipment, Supplies (manual can opener, utensils, fire extinguisher, matches, money, batteries, etc.)
• Special Items (baby supplies, pet food, important family documents, etc.)
• Extra Food and Water.
• Camping gear tents, canopies, and cooking stoves, Sleeping bags, cooking equipment, utensils, etc
• Communications gear, especially amateur (ham) or citizen's band radio
• Equipment and tools used for debris removal, home repair, snow removal

*Basic Emergency Supply Kit:
• Water, one gallon of water per person per day for at least three days, for drinking and sanitation
• Food, at least a three-day supply of non-perishable food
• Battery-powered or hand crank radio and a NOAA Weather Radio/Batteries
• Flashlight and extra batteries
• First aid kit
• Whistle to signal for help
• Dust mask, plastic sheeting, duct tape to shelter-in-place
• Moist towelettes, garbage bags, plastic ties for personal sanitation
• Wrench or pliers to turn off utilities
• Can opener for food (if kit contains canned food)
• Local maps
• Cell phone with chargers

*Additional Items Emergency Supply Kit:
• Pet food and extra water for your pet
• Important family documents such as copies of insurance policies, identification and bank account records in a waterproof, portable container
• Cash or traveler's checks and change
• Emergency reference material such as a first aid book or information from www.ready.gov
• Complete change of clothing including a long sleeved shirt, long pants and sturdy shoes. Consider additional clothing if you live in a cold-weather climate.
• Household chlorine bleach and medicine dropper – When diluted nine parts water to one part bleach, bleach can be used as a disinfectant. Or in an emergency, you can use it to treat water by using 16 drops of regular household liquid bleach per gallon of water. Do not use scented, color safe or bleaches with added cleaners.
• Fire Extinguisher
• Matches in a waterproof container
• Mess kits, paper cups, plates and plastic utensils, paper towels
• Paper and pencil
• Books, games, puzzles or other activities for children

*12 Month Purchasing Plan
Buy just a few things each payday!
Purchase:
Water -3 gallons per person and pet
Hand-operated can opener and bottle opener
Instant drinks (coffee, tea, powdered soft drinks)
2 flashlights with batteries
Activities:
Make your family disaster preparedness plan*
Inventory disaster supplies already on hand, especially
camping gear
If you fill your own water containers if they are not dated
Conduct a home hazard hunt*

Month 2 Purchase:
Canned meat, stew, or pasta meal – 5 per person
Sanitary napkins
Videotape
Family – size first aid kit
Activities:
Change battery and test smoke detector (purchase and
install a detector if you don’t have one)
Videotape your home, including contents, for insurance
purposes. Store the tape with friends or family who live out of town.

Month 3 Purchase:
Canned fruit 3 cans per person
Any foods for special dietary needs (enough for 3 days)
2 rolls of toilet paper per person
Crescent wrench(es) (or utility shutoff tools) Activities:
Conduct a home fire drill
Check with your child’s day care or school to find out about
their disaster plans
Locate gas meter and water shutoff points and attach/store
wrench or shutoff tool near them
Establish an out-of-state contact to call in case of
emergency

Your supplies may be stored together in one large container, such as a garbage can on wheels, or several small ones Food items could be kept on a specific shelf in the pantry.

Month 4 Purchase:
Canned vegetables -4 per person
Extra baby bottles, formula, and diapers, if needed
Extra pet supplies, food, collar, leash
Large storage containers(s) for preparedness supplies
Activities:
Place a sturdy pair of shoes and a flashlight under
your bed so that they will be handy during an
emergency
Place a supply of prescription medicine(s) and date if
not already indicated on its label
Start putting supplies in storage container(s) and
include blankets or sleeping bags for each family
member

Month 5 Purchase:
Canned, ready-to-eat soup - 2 per person
Liquid dish soap
Plain liquid bleach
Portable am/fm radio (including batteries)
Antibacterial liquid hand soap
Disposable hand wipes
Activities:
Make photo copies of important papers and put in the storage container
Talk with neighbors to find out who may have skills or training that would be beneficial after a disaster (i.e., first aid, child care, amateur radio, tree removal, small engine repair, heavy equipment operations, wilderness survival, light rescue, carpentry)
Examples of Food Items:
Select based on your family’s preferences
Pick low-salt, water-packed varieties when possible
Canned meat ~ tuna, chicken raviolis, chili, stew, Spam, corned beef, etc.
Vegetables ~ green beans, corn, peas, beets, baked beans, carrots, etc.
Fruit ~ pears, applesauce, mandarin oranges, pineapple, etc.

Month 6 Purchase:
Quick-energy snacks (granola bars, raisins, peanut butter)
6 rolls of paper towels
3 boxes of facial tissue
Sunscreen
Anti-diarrhea medicine
Latex gloves, 6 pairs, (to be out with the first aid kit)
Activities:
Check to see if your stored water has expired and needs to be replace (Replace every 6 months if you filled your own containers Store bought water will have an expiration date on the container)
Put an extra pair of eyeglasses in the supply container
Store a roll of quarters with the emergency supplies and locate the pay phone nearest to your home
Find out about your workplace disaster plans

Month 7 Purchase:
Whistle
ABC fire extinguisher
1 Large can of juice per person
Adult ands children vitamins
A pair of pliers and/or vise grips
Activities:
Take a first aid/CPR class
Identify neighbors who might need help in an emergency, including those with limited mobility or health problems and children who might be alone
Show family members where and how to shut off the utilities

Month 8 Purchase:
Box of crackers or graham crackers
Dry cereal
“Child proof” latches or other fasteners for cabinet doors and drawers
1 Box of large, heavy-duty garbage bags
Camping or utility knife Activities:
Secure shelves, cabinets, and drawers to prevent them from falling and/or opening during earthquakes
Meet with neighbors to inventory expensive equipment that could be shared in the event of an emergency, such as
chain saws, chippers/shredders, utility trailers, snow blowers, and 4-wheel drive vehicles

Month 9 Purchase:
Extra batteries for flashlights, radio, and hearing aids (if needed)
Heavy rope
Duct tape
Crowbar
Activities:
Make a small preparedness kit for your car Include food, water, blanket, small first aid kit, a list of important phone numbers, quarters for pay phones
Secure water heater to wall studs (if not already done)

Month 10 Purchase:
Hammer and assorted nails
Screw drivers and assorted wood screws
Heavy duty plastic tarps or sheets of visquine
Extra toothbrush per person and toothpaste
Activities:
Make arrangements to have someone help your children if you are at work when an emergency occurs
Conduct an earthquake drill at home
Replace prescription medicines as required by expiration dates

Month 11 Purchase:
Package of paper plates
Package of napkins
Package of eating utensils
Package of paper cups
Making tape
Kitchen-size garbage bags (1 box)
Activities:
Make arrangements to have someone to take care of your pets
Exchange work, home, and emergency contact phone numbers with neighbors for use during an emergency
Start a Neighborhood Watch Program if none exists

Month 12 Purchase:
Heavy work gloves
Box of disposable dust masks
Safety goggles Antiseptic
Sewing kit
Activities:
Check to see your stored water has expired and needs to be replaced (Replace every 6 months if you filled your own containers. Store-bought water will have an expiration date on the container)
Check the dates on stored on stored food and replace as needed

DONT LET THIS LIST INTIMIDATE YOU! ANYTHING YOU CAN DO IS BETTER THAN NOTHING! TAKE YOUR TIME, GATHER WHAT YOU AND YOUR FAMILY NEEDS, AND IS BEST FOR YOU!

edit on 06-10-2010 by mysterioustranger because: grammar



posted on Nov, 1 2010 @ 09:19 AM
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CERT Pt 2 More...and again, anyone can reach me here.


edit on 06-10-2010 by mysterioustranger because: duplicate removal



posted on Nov, 2 2010 @ 12:41 AM
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If you just think of what you use daily and then make sure you have enough of that for 3 days / a year..depends on the situation...if you can still IM here IM me if your in my general area 2 people are always better than 1 and I cannot be awake for 24/7 365....plus some have been awake a lot longer than others.



posted on Nov, 2 2010 @ 05:22 AM
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My best suggestion would be to find someone or a group of someones that you trust with your life (literally) and form a small group. There are things you simply cannot do while towing a toddler but you may be able to offer a group a useful skill in trade for help with your child. Think of the things that you absolutely MUST have to keep your child healthy and stock up on those items as well as food and water or a water filtration device for you both.

I took my toddler hunting with me as a single mom but it wasn't easy. It was an adventure before the deer went down but the moment it did he started screaming at the top of his lungs about how I shot Bambi. I literally had to drag him and the deer out of the woods. Even field dressed this was a chore. He was three.
The first pheasant he saw me pluck he puked his guts out and cried. He was four.
There were chores he enjoyed helping with though how much help he was was open for debate. He loved to stack wood, he loved to weed the garden (if you could keep him off the plants), he loved to pick the strawberries (pick one/eat one)


How old is your toddler? That will change what you need to focus on as well.

ETA: These can be relatively cheap and would haul a lot of stuff including your child. If you can't find one have a handy friend fashion one for you using aluminum tubing and bicycle wheels.





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posted on Nov, 7 2010 @ 12:47 AM
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The two wheeled cart is a great idea for what you cant pack or what keeps your mobility slow.
Im not sure if it will help at this time OP, but Ive just finished posting pictures of the gear I carry in my B.O.B., maybe it will give you some idea's.
Im working on pictures of my D.D.B. which Ill post soon.
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