A mysterious group of early humans who made tools 55,000 years ahead of their time

This is pretty interesting...

I suppose its like finding a monkey today carving spears , when we dont expect them to do anything like that for thousands of years. Creepeh.

Though I dont think its too miraculous, with opposable thumbs, a lot is possible.

reply to post by Havick007


You seem to be missing the point [pun intended] These spear heads were made using a technique that was far more advanced than hardening it by fire or just using a sharp stone. It was a process to make a sharper point and required some know how.link It may not seem like much but consider how many times humanity has lost knowledge over history. What this find does is point out that one group of humans figured out how to knapp flint before most other groups. Intereseting since you can't just use any ole piece.

This is cool and falls into the category of "Humans Doing Amazing Things Tens of Thousands of Years Ago." As for why this groups techniques didn't catch on, it's not uncommon for knowledge to be lost. These days we think of knowledge as being a very stable thing. It doesn't seem like we'll forget how to produce electricity or make computers, but who knows what we'll know 1,000 years from now. This group ended up just forgetting or losing for a dozen possible reasons.

I think most people take for granted how incredible the achievements of ancient man are. It's always nice to see more evidence of it.

I think they got lucky, and perhaps one of them was a little ahead of his/her time maybe.. You know, a Tesla of the paleolithic era!

Or Maybe...

reply to post by hangedman13


i did get that point ====> pun also intended , i guess they could have got lucky, sitting around all day with not much at all to do except hunt,sleep, eat and socialising, i am sure they tried different way and techniques.
How can we even be 100% sure of the date it was created, obviously rock cannot be carbon dated etc.

I want to add an example of something similar that has happened in our recent past. Please correct me if i am wrong and although in the below example the time span of difference is less than your example i think it i very relative to the discussion.

So lets look at Astrology, mathmatics and astronomy for a moment.

Putting aside my beleifs and theories regarding Egypt as seen in my recent thread :

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Lets have a closer look at the Greco/Roman area around the 300BC-300AD time-frame. Now Ptolemy came up with amazing theories for the study of the planets, stars and solar system, along with mathmatics, Medical and other thoeries and '' science '' - for all those that dont know for themselves please take the time actually reading for a change.

Now flash foward to the 1600-1700AD era, according to many in charge or the so called monarchy etc, the world is flat, we are the centre of the universe blah blah. Anyone that tried to oppose this was accused of blasphemy or withcraft etc and pursocuted by the royals and religous leaders. Although in this time they had documents and history that pointed to the complete opposite of what they pushed and forced the public to believe!

How is it over the course of almost 2000 yrs we were set back and lost all that history? In 1000 years they will ask the same question and may possibly say '' well how eas that civilasation so far advanced '' rather than ask what led to the loss of that knowledge?\

What was it? I know exactly what it was, religous and politcal leaders trying to cover certain facts and beliefs to suit their own agenda at the time, no different to what is happening in this day and age, and that will continue to happen time and time again. If information and knowledge gives the masses popwer over leaders they will stop at nothing to cut it off and persicute thoose who have knowledge! Look at history, any civilisation that has something of value is generally overtaken and invaded by someone else that wants that power and knowledge.

WE talk about myth and legend, Atlantis, Egypt and aliens, Roswell etc etc, the list goes on and on, things many people believe are being kept secret from the masses and that we are being controlled. It is human nature or maybe the nature of those trying to manipulate us... who knows.

So what, a spear was created in way that was 50,000 ahead of the next person that used the same technique. Maybe the knowledge was lost, maybe the next civilisation found the same types of spear head and tried to replaicate it, they were human, and did have some intelligence.

reply to post by Julio


There is no comparison to monkeys necesary here, although it was 50-70,000 yeras ago we were long past being monkeys. Homo-Erectus, Homo-Samiens, and Neandertals were around long before this spear discovery. They were making spearheads 200,000 years before this one, that is a fact. Look it up!

what if they had the davinci's and tesla's and einstien's 120k yo? whic would tie into the "ahead of their time" theme.

and no greed and capitalism and other competition?

how fast would they get to the moon? we did it in less than 100 years or 10,000, depending who you talk to.

explains alot of ancient weirdness.

not trying to be off topic.

reply to post by fooks


Humans alwats had that potential, always! It was just they needed to lead upto it.

Look at the timelines, hunting led to weapons, weapons development lead to better machining and construction methods which lead to steam power ( fyi: also theorised in 300BC ) which then lead to the insudtrial evololtuion and which intern lead to the acceptance of science.

In the centuries before, any scientfic thought or theory was thought of as pagan and witchcraft, which is why many things were done in secret or hidden. These were things carried over from ancient times but religious leaders which at the time were in control of political leaders stopped it, thinking it was contradicting religion. It was a sad time in our history.

reply to post by Havick007


i think it is worse now. at least the people knew the gods and pretty much what was going on and regular people
had supposed interaction.

nowadays we ain't got a clue.

reply to post by fooks


Exactly! At least then they had some idea and knew ancient knowledge! Since then it has been distorted, copied , changed and passed down.

It is sad, and i hate the fact our current culture and civilisation has been kept in the dark, all to suit those who control us, religios and politcal leaders. We are nothing but sheep, we think we have the power of the people but in reality we have no power at all. We are told what they want us to believe and beleive what we are told!

The skeptics on this failing site are a perfect example of how gullible people and humans can be, we take things for face value and will not question supposed facts! As soon as we do we are labbeled protestors and anti-social.
Even if 100,000 people protest something, they are labelled anti social and outcasts. Rather than listen to the people they tell the poeple how things will be!
It is a disgrace!

So you say that there were people here before the Jew's God wrote the bible. How is this true. Could the jews be wrong. I think I need one more post to make a thread. Yea for me.

I have no way of knowing or believing that any of this is true or not. I would like to say that it appears to be strange and weird. If it were considered fiction then I might grasp it a little better. Thank you I will begin my thread and topic now....

reply to post by GheauxstTiger


Are you saying you take every part of the bible as fact.... thats sad and deluded

Last time i was there they gave me this gift with me:





No really. How said that we are not the 2nd or the 20est civilization on this planet? Maybe the people of Atlantis developed hitech, while the rest of the world painted some animal pictures in caves. I am pretty sure we are not the first civilization with that stage in earths history. Just wait until they find unidentifiable machines.

This device is 2000 year old:

Look how precisely this device is made without modern tools? Without electric Power?

...precision and complexity of a 19th-century Swiss clock
Source: www.wired.co.uk...'s-first-computer-rebuilt

crazy stuff, 75k years ago people were making 20k years ago tools.

70k years ago tambura volcano blew.

probably effectively ended their civilization.

5000 yrs hmmmmm.. what could they have achieved?

reply to post by Ui_Niall


You think thats hard? I wonder how hard it would be for someone from back then to try use the internet?

reply to post by ThePeopleParty


not hard!

i can use it but i can't make an arrow head!



inventing the net is a different story.

Originally posted by Havick007
Now flash foward to the 1600-1700AD era, according to many in charge or the so called monarchy etc, the world is flat, we are the centre of the universe blah blah. Anyone that tried to oppose this was accused of blasphemy or withcraft etc and pursocuted by the royals and religous leaders.

I'm sorry, but this is nonsense. Nobody thought the world was flat in the 17th century, and it's a myth that most did during the middle ages. The Church certainly accepted that the world was a sphere.

For a start the first known circumnavigation of the earth was finished in 1522. By the end of the 17th century many of the living rooms of the wealthy would have had globes in them, and Newton's Philosophiæ Naturalis Principia Mathematica had been published. Even at the time of Columbus there was a fierce debate about the exact circumference of the earth, not whether it was flat or not, as nobody seriously entertained that position.

reply to post by FatherLukeDuke


wow i stand corrected in regard to the flat earth myth