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There will never be a cure for Cancer.

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posted on Oct, 27 2010 @ 01:17 AM
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OK, this is my theory, There will never be a cure for cancer.

from the sources online that I've found the American Cancer Society has invested over $2 billion in research trying to find a cure

Why will there never be a cure? I'm not sure of the number I can't find a reliable source on the internet, but there are probably a couple hundred thousand people in the United States alone that either work with patients with cancer, cancer research, therapy, chemo, businesses that make chemotherapy machines and everyone at those businesses.

If a cure was found all of these people would be out of jobs, why would we need cancer therapists if there was no cancer? why would we need chemotherapy machines, any businesses in the world that deal with cancer would go bankrupt.

The government or the world cannot have a cure for cancer it would ruin the economy of every country.

I'm not sure where the money goes that is donated yearly to cancer research and foundations.

If anyone has anything else to say on the subject please do so.



posted on Oct, 27 2010 @ 01:19 AM
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I was last treated for cancer in 1987. Not a sign of it since.
Are you telling me I wasn't cured? Damn. I thought I was doing so well.



posted on Oct, 27 2010 @ 01:20 AM
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There are more one type of cancer.
I believe all different types of cancer would be curred soon.



posted on Oct, 27 2010 @ 01:21 AM
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are you meaning somehow because we all have the cancer cells in our body and only those that are im not sure the term malignant? is that what your trying to say?



posted on Oct, 27 2010 @ 01:22 AM
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I have always thought that there was already a cure, but will not be provided to the general public for all the reasons that you have stated.
My friend once asked me if I have ever once heard on the news about a top cancer researcher dieing of cancer. And the answer is NO i haven't.

www.cancertreatmentwatch.org...
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posted on Oct, 27 2010 @ 01:26 AM
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Well, technically speaking, cancer is when free radical cells within your body, instead of being detected by your immune system or dying, attach to the body and begin to multiply.

Free radical cells are made by the body daily. Technically, everybody on ATS probably has "cancer" cells in their body.

The reason why cancer is so hard to cure, is due to the very nature of cancer itself: How do you selectively remove cells from your body that, for the most part, are exactly like the cells that help keep you alive? How does one determine which cells are dangerous and multiplying unchecked and kill them without causing irreparable damage?

There probably will never be a "cure" for cancer, as cancerous cells occurring in the body is a natural part of life, and simply represents the imperfection that exists in all things. I do, however, believe that there will be a solution to cancer - it will just be very hard to find.



posted on Oct, 27 2010 @ 01:40 AM
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Well the only cure for disease is your immune system - just have to have a strong enough immune system to combat the disease.

There won't be a mainstream cure for the reasons you mentioned, but they have been curing cancer for 50 years at the Gerson Institute in Mexico (Not allowed to treat cancer in America with anything other than drugs, surgery and chemo).

Watch this and watch the cure: www.foodmatters.tv

Also watch World Without Cancer (Last time I saw this was on a Google Video)


edit on 27-10-2010 by Cataka because: Added another video



posted on Oct, 27 2010 @ 01:50 AM
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Originally posted by Morphodox18
OK, this is my theory, There will never be a cure for cancer.

from the sources online that I've found the American Cancer Society has invested over $2 billion in research trying to find a cure


You could give them another $10b and I assure you, they still won't find a cure. The medical industry makes far too much money from this gravy train to let it stop.

They would, however, come up with some very expensive treatments that would make your suffering more pleasant.



posted on Oct, 27 2010 @ 01:58 AM
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ok what were you treated with chemo? i know that chemo works for some, but the way you're making it sound is you were treated with a drug or something and it never came back, im saying that there is no point of cancer research if you do chemo and it works good for it if it doesn't and they cant get rid of it what do you do? research and finding a cure does nothing.



posted on Oct, 27 2010 @ 02:00 AM
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maybe they will find something that works but what im saying is that even if they do find it so many companies will go bankrupt and people will lose their jobs and the government isn't going to want that, so it will probably never be released to the public maybe something has already been found, if it was cancer research programs aren't going to say stop sending us millions of dollars



posted on Oct, 27 2010 @ 02:04 AM
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Life is a form of cancer... We mutate genetically until we die.

Really... We all will die...

From genetic replication and our genes change over time.. till they cannot last viably.

The abnormal forms of cancer however, can be treated, and we hope to find a way to prevent those, and I think we're coming along well in that regard; not as fast as I'd like but still... we are making headway.



posted on Oct, 27 2010 @ 02:06 AM
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nah way man. doctors will always have jobs. i could say the same thing you say about cancer about polio a few decades back, but the minute we could cure it, we did. "but what about the iron lung manufacturers" big deal, they moved on.

on the scientific front, if we can diagnose it we will eventually cure it through some form of technology. on the political front you mention, 1. the polio thing, there is something to say for human altruism 2. when the cure does come it will be extremely expensive, so you're argument doesn't hold, haha, guess there's always more to say about profiteering. people will still need cancer doctors to diagnose and administer the treatment.

if the cure is a surgery, then new doctors will move into surgery, and make tons of money. if the cure is a pill, then they'll prescribe the pill and get huge kickbacks from insurance companies and the drug manufacturers will laugh all the way to the bank. if the cure is a machine, the machine manufacturers will rake it in and doctors will charge you out the $%^ to run it on you.

long story short. cures happen. doctors will keep making their money. don't worry.

companies spend alot of money on cancer drugs, and treatments, they get better all the time! but don't forget about the billions of dollars spent trying to find a cure. companies and universities are in a RACE to find a cure. i'm not saying it will happen anytime soon, but think about it. if you were the first to find a cure for cancer, you're competition is SOL dude.

profiteering and market incentives aren't going to hinder the cure for cancer they're going to be the reason some lucky, RICH bastard FINDS the cure for cancer.
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posted on Oct, 27 2010 @ 02:10 AM
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The reason why cancer is so hard to cure, is due to the very nature of cancer itself: How do you selectively remove cells from your body that, for the most part, are exactly like the cells that help keep you alive? How does one determine which cells are dangerous and multiplying unchecked and kill them without causing irreparable damage?

The same way you would with a virus? find out in particular which (cancer) cell has in it waaaay deep down somewhere that seperates them from the other cells and have something within the body "mimic" something that gets rid of cells? i hope im making sense.
edit on 27-10-2010 by achaiah86 because: corrected seperates



posted on Oct, 27 2010 @ 02:13 AM
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I had radiation and chemotherapy.
If "they can't get rid of it" you die.
Research is what saved my life. Without it, I would not be here right now.



posted on Oct, 27 2010 @ 02:15 AM
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I agree with you, Morph,

Money is the driving force. There is already a cure for cancer, you can bet on it.

How could anyone, knowing they have the cure, accept the money instead of curing millions of people?

What goes around comes around.



posted on Oct, 27 2010 @ 02:18 AM
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There are already cures for cancer...
...and those who know about them are quietly getting on with it...
...and not waiting for some medical sanction that will never come.



posted on Oct, 27 2010 @ 02:38 AM
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i really don't think it's that hard to figure out that the op means a sure-fire 'cure' in the traditional sense. he is very clearly not referring to the current norm long term treatments, so why play word games? and no, just because you're cancer-free now doesn't mean you're 'cured'. every cancer patient has a chance of it coming back.


that being said, the op is correct. big pharmacy has no incentive to come forward with an easier treatment for cancer if it does indeed exist(which i believe it does). it is far too profitable to keep patients tied to treatments for as long as possible. i recently had an interesting conversation with an 85 year old man. i work as a photographer, and i was doing portraits for him and his wife. somehow, we got to talking about life, and he brought up his fight with cancer. he said he had cancer in his spine, his lung, and another area in his chest. the doctors gave him six months to live. he claimed to have done his own research, rejected conventional treatments, and underwent alternative treatment out of the country involving something to do with blood proteins stimulating his immune system to attack the cancer. his treatment was over 20 years ago (he was diagnosed in his sixties) and he is now cancer free. as i said, this conversation was very recent, and i have yet to do some follow up research, but sitting having a lengthy conversation with him and his wife, who i had never met prior to this shoot, left an impression on me. his wife didn't say much, but was nodding in agreement and encouragement periodically. the whole conversation had a tone of goodwill and honesty.
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posted on Oct, 27 2010 @ 02:44 AM
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exactly they are not going to tell people even if there was a cure they will have them continue to pay for whatever the most expensive treatment is



posted on Oct, 27 2010 @ 02:47 AM
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its not the doctors that are the problem its the businesses and the people that work at them I know that the doctors can easily find another job in a different field of medicine



posted on Oct, 27 2010 @ 02:48 AM
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I had no "long term" treatment. Six weeks of radiation therapy and about four months of chemo. Yes, it was costly. There were doctors and technicians to pay. There was equipment. There were drugs. But I think I got a pretty good deal.

I was encouraged by some to avoid chemotherapy. I knew at least two people who chose alternative therapy. They are dead. I am not. I don't regret my decision and and do not feel like I was taken advantage of.

Yes, there's a "chance" it will come back but after 23 years it's pretty unlikely. It's actually about as likely that it will show up in me as it will in you. If it does, it will be your decision. No one else's.

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