Antigravity is not only easy, you can make it happen from old junk

reply to post by Soshh


This is not anti-gravity, this machine moves ions, ions move air by attracting dust particles in the air. This machine is one and the same as the ION FAN. Only differance, the fan, that you can buy in stores is one made out of all heavy materials and is grounded. They both attract dust particles and blow air, and that is why the ion fan is a good fan to have to take out dust particles in your home for alergic peoples like me who have allergies. THANK YOU.

Originally posted by OldDragger
reply to post by russ1969

 

Yes, we are IDIOTS compared to the great minds at work here! FOOLS!

There have been crackpot theories forever. Nothing new here. Just a lot of meaningless stringing of (OOOOOOOOO!) technical sounding jibberish. Please.

hey nice way to be a dick.
dick.
"simpleton"..
yeah you got that right.


Niice post Mike!
I wouldnt admit to having a working model either. lol

Keep it up mate.

reply to post by Ahmose


Amusing.
Why on earth do you believe that "antigravity is easy"? Why? Because the poster says so? A You Tube video? Can you even define "antigravity". do you know anything about math or physics? Get down to specifics.
If this guy can create "anti gravity", he could do it commercially and be a BILLIONAIRE! instead of You Tube!!!!
Or have you simply confused science fiction with reality. wanting to believe. Posts like yours are amazing in that they prove ONLY the old saw, there is a sucker born every minute.

reply to post by mrmrmikee


Actually gravity appears to be the result of large massive clumps of matter warping the "fabric" of space. What are you talking about particles flowing back to the blackhole? What blackhole?

reply to post by Scramjet76


What you said is true, but it doesn't really mean anything. Just warping space-time isn't enough to explain why gravity actually happens. Part of the reason physicists are scrambling for a theory of everything is to explain the mystery of gravity. One popular theory is that gravity is caused by a particle called the HIggs boson, which the OP mentions as part of his explanation

Of course, we don't know if the Higgs boson actually exists yet, but we are close to finding out. This is one of the major discoveries scientists predict will come from the Cern LHC (provided it doesn't turn the earth into a black hole first )

I've had many many ideas on how to make anti gravity work. Of course I wouldn't post them on ATS unless I could prove they worked.... Might be an example to follow methinks...

Time for some scientific method.
Please supply us with diagrams for us to follow.
Then we will test to see wether or not it works.

Tell me this.....We have the power to measure the gravitational pull of the Earth on pretty much anything on it. Why is it that we can't figure out in a simple way how to negate that equation ? If the Earth pull me at 20 pounds per square inch to keep my feet planted on the ground, why can't I make something artificial to convert the positive energy pulling on my to negative energy to push me away ? The hardest pas would be to exactly match the + and - to have weightlessness, once that is achieved then you can micro adjust to gain levitation or side movement.

All these calculation could be done with the power of an i-touch. We can generate enormous amounts of power yet we can control it in a small package, small enough to create a "anti" gravitational field....Come on.....I'm sure someone in some area of black projects has thought of something so far fetched as this......If I can think about it.....A simple man with questions......Then a genius with knowledge, funds and resources can create it I'm sure !

reply to post by Fox Molder


The problem is that no one knows what gravity really is.

In all fairness, we don't really know what electromagnetism is, either - or how all of that works. However, we do know that a flow of electrons generates a magnetic field, and this allows us a large degree of interaction with electromagnetism. With Gravity - we don't know what causes it... other than matter, itself.

Further, gravity is not a bipolar force like electromagnetism - it is monopole and self-attracting, as far as anyone can tell. Thus, there is no "anti" to it. The only "antigravity" is a rocket or some other force to oppose it.

There is a growing theory that Gravity is not a force at all, but an emergent property of entropy and quantum mechanics. Thus - "anti-gravity" is impossible. However, it would allow for direct manipulation of an object's location and entropic properties - so effects even better than anti-gravity could theoretically be developed.

Provided a method for manipulating those properties could be devised.

Wow, the idea of shedding higgs bosons away from matter using strong magnetic fields is something I hadn't thought about before, however it is hypothesized the higgs boson has a magnetic spin of zero though, which should mean it can't theoretically interact with a magnetic field.

The other thing you mention is that black holes are sinks for all boson matter (fermis can't technically be compressed in a single energy state, i.e. singularity) ....I have my own rough ideas about the universe about how black holes turn bosons into pairs of fermi particles and how very cold vacuum states turn fermi pairs back into bosons, in a perpetual manner that is.

Originally posted by jymmyjaymes
I don't know about anyone else here on ATS, but I for one would not trust a space saucer that I made from a junk yard scrap pile, I could just see it now, I'm happily zipping one mile straight up, proudly heading for my own personal exploration of outer space and.....kerplunk!!! I fall back to earth like a stone! Forget it!

Okay, yeah.

But just think of the cheapness and availability of parts, should such a breakdown occur! I mean, there's at least some chance you'd crash in or near a junkyard.
Ka-CHING!!

Harte

When i first read this thread i thought, Hey, Coral castle has always been an interest of mine. Most of what the o.p said went right over my head. So i ask for a simple drawing or something to examine. I didnt get that. Now Im wondering if the O.P. is ever going to come back to this thread and answer questions or was it just a bunch of mumbo jumbo?

My conclusion is.... Hell might freeze over first.

OP... which video are you referring to exactly? There are about 48 uploads on your page and most of them seem to talk about Martians, Nibiru, Redwood trees sprouting evil heads, and other miscellaneous videos. Which one will help me learn your theory better?

Oh no ...
I can just see it now ,
hordes of hairy teenagers flying through the neighbourhood ,
atop wheelie bins ( full of junk ) , swirling old I-pod speakers over their heads ... !

You would need a practical method of controlling the ion disruption to within 0.25-0.30 π to prevent full polarisation of the neutrons, as you don't want a full cascade effect

I have to admit that It all sounds a lot simpler than manufacturing cavorite which I'm currently trying to manufacture using varying levels of CO2/f2a=c2

Originally posted by Vortiki
Correct me if I'm wrong, however, you mentioned something about spinning off the largest particles, like the Higgs Boson. I am under the impression that the Higgs Boson particle has NEVER been observed, therefore doesn't currently exist in the understanding of subatomic particles. That isn't to say, just because we cannot see something doesn't mean it doesn't exist, however, I'm fairly sure that the Higgs Boson is NOT one of the largest subatomic particles, due to the fact that it is unobservable (because of it's miniscule size) that would leave anyone with any form of deductive reasoning skills, that you are incorrect in stating that anything can remove this, unknown, extremely tiny subatomic particle from the rest of its make-up. Touching on that subject, how do you know (even if they did connect into groups of seven like you claim) that this is what is going on? If our top scientists of today cannot observe the Higgs Boson particle with the billion dollar machines they are using today, how do you know they exist, let alone what they do under various conditions?

Sorry to put in the whole quote, but I agree. I thought the Higgs Boson particle was one of the Holy Grails of physics being searched for at the moment. I wasn't aware that it had been proven to exist. I'm not saying I don't believe that it exists. Can someone please tell me if it has?

Originally posted by quantum_flux


The other thing you mention is that black holes are sinks for all boson matter (fermis can't technically be compressed in a single energy state, i.e. singularity) ....I have my own rough ideas about the universe about how black holes turn bosons into pairs of fermi particles and how very cold vacuum states turn fermi pairs back into bosons, in a perpetual manner that is.

edit on 27-10-2010 by quantum_flux because:

This paragraph sounds a lot like how John Titor's time machine engine supposedly worked. Except that his supposedly used twin micro singularities.

reply to post by UnknownSheep

More thoughts about that on my Don't Be a "Heat Deather" thread.

reply to post by BobbinHood


I understand that the higgs field could account for the mass in particles. However, even if the LHC confirms that hypothesis, that is still a long way from "building a UFO."

That is like saying Newton's discovery of law of universal gravitation would instantly lead to a man on the moon. But history says it took about 275 years. That's really my point.

I'm very interested in what the physicists have to say and that's why I'm a bit skeptical of some guy (whos not a PhD mainstream physicist) claiming you can build a UFO in your garage.

I'm sure we have the technique down almost to sience, if we got the starting info from the germans. HERE, you decide. www.youtube.com...= NPffpTlsj2c?