Biden: "Every single great idea in the last 200 years has required government vision and incentive

We've done a lot in the last 20 months," VPOTUS said. "The economy has grown four quarters in a row, not what it needs to, but it's growing, it's not shrinking. Just since January, 860,000 private sector jobs, not nearly enough. But guess what? That's more jobs than were created in the entire eight years of the Bush Administration. That's factual."

VPOTUS did not mention Bishop's Republican opponent, businessman Randy Altschuler, by name, but predicted the federal government will grind to a halt if the House or Senate fall under GOP control. He predicted Democrats would "keep the Senate and win the House."

"This is a real important election," he said. "It's more important than the one that got Barack and me elected, it literally is. Because there at least we would have continued to drift another four years, which would be bad. Now at least we've stopped the drift and are starting to head in the right direction. If we lose in the House or the Senate, we're now in a position where we are in a stalemate and this thing is just going to go in reverse and our most powerful weapon will be a veto pen, and that’s bad."

VPOTUS, who stood next to Bishop and grasped the four-term Democrat's shoulder at several points during his remarks, waded into the audience as he discussed the nation's need to compete with education and infrastructure investments made by nations like China and India, and Republican opposition to such spending.

"Every single great idea that has marked the 21st century, the 20th century and the 19th century has required government vision and government incentive," he said. "In the middle of the Civil War you had a guy named Lincoln paying people $16,000 for every 40 miles of track they laid across the continental United States. … No private enterprise would have done that for another 35 years."

Reid, Pelosi, and Biden. 3 obviously mentally deranged lunatics with delusions of grandeur.

The entire nation would be better off if these 3 simply disappeared off the planet.

reply to post by BigTimeCheater


Say it ain't So Crazy Joe !




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Lincoln was the last good guy.

Been schmucks ever since,with few exceptions.

reply to post by BigTimeCheater


860,000 jobs versus unemployement rate at 10% which means 17 million americans out of work

increased social security, and welfare receipients of around 100 million people

thats factual.


reid,pelosi and biden and obama clearly arent living in reality


and just how long term are those 860,000 jobs are they like the census jobs where the hire and fire and hire and fire.


meh.......................

Hey Joe! You want to tell that to a few guys named Wozniack, Jobs and Gates, to name a few.

reply to post by chiponbothshoulders


Where do you get this notion that Lincoln was, "a good guy??"

Originally posted by Portugoal
reply to post by chiponbothshoulders

 

Where do you get this notion that Lincoln was, "a good guy??"

Exactly, george w bush may be called a good guy in future, depending on who writes the books, lol.

With representatives like Biden, Pelosi, and Reid, we are so screwed! The only state showing any improvement is North Dakota I think? And yet they wanna preach this nonsense....I wonder if they have taken the time to talk to an unemployed person who continues to get the "over qualified" BS? All I know is, the numbers they keep repeating, just don't add up....860,000 jobs allegedly created doesn't offset the 17% unemployment nationally?

Originally posted by chiponbothshoulders
Lincoln was the last good guy.

Been schmucks ever since,with few exceptions.

Lincoln was hardly a good guy. He violated the Constitution more than recent presidents.

reply to post by BigTimeCheater


You wouldn't be suggesting the Emancipation Proclamation would you?

reply to post by JIMC5499


They didn't really come up with a 'great idea'. They came up with repackaging older ideas, reinventing them and making them smaller and easier to use. The original idea of the computer required a lot of government incentive, as the government was one of the few target markets for the machine that IBM thought would number in the low dozens at most. The government made the push for faster technology. Shrinking it was just a matter of time.

Hell, the iPod wasn't even an original idea, they took it from an expired patent.

The internet? That's a great idea and that took incentive and vision.

Telephones? Government helped there too.

Railways! Um...yep, also required government vision, it was a mess without that.

Cars!...roads...

Airplanes! Um...oh yeah...

It may sound a bit crass and arrogant, but the guy has a point.

reply to post by 2Rotten4u


17%

...yeah, that's a number that I don't want to touch, I honestly don't know where you could have found that.

9.2% is the current figure.
...you nearly doubled the number.

reply to post by madnessinmysoul


9.2% is those who actually file for unemployment.

17% is the estimate of those who are actually unemployed.

The government doesn't care for the 8% that doesn't file for unemployment because since they don't count for the total officially it enables them to keep the actual figure low.

Biden: "Every single great idea in the last 200 years has required government vision and incentive."

What government is this moron referring to? Every great idea has come from the people
that live in this country. It is the "legal" immigrants from Ireland, Italy, Germany, France,
Norway and all the rest who have migrated here and conceived ideas to make things
better and more prosperous. The government hasn't done anything but muck up the
ideas from the Americans. I would venture to say that probably 95% of the so-called
government ideas have done nothing but impose hardships and hatred and have cost
this country trillions in dollars. What a laugh. Open mouth and insert both feet AGAIN,
Mr. Biden. Say goodbye to your job in the near future and let the people come up with
the really great ideas.Your visions have led us down a dark tunnel to nowhere and your
incentives have broke the piggy bank.

Originally posted by Becoming
reply to post by madnessinmysoul

 

9.2% is those who actually file for unemployment.

17% is the estimate of those who are actually unemployed.

The government doesn't care for the 8% that doesn't file for unemployment because since they don't count for the total officially it enables them to keep the actual figure low.

That is true and it is the same way for the inflation rate. They changed the way the rate is calculated in the 80's. Today they say the rate is near zero but if calculated the same as it was during the Carter years, the rate would be about 10%.

It's all smoke and mirrors in a lame attempt to make others think they are doing a decent job in office.

reply to post by BigTimeCheater


Well not to side with VPOTUS but, some government initiatives do require government planning to make happen. Can we imagine what our interstate system would look like if private individuals owned and operated it? We might have to stop every time we switched roads to pay a tolls. While this is great for the private corporation, and would mean less taxes overall. It would be inconvenient as hell to drive an interstate system like that.

reply to post by BigTimeCheater


It's funny that he mentions the railroads.

Rothbard has dissected the funding of the railroads during the period and found that the bulk of the money went into politicians and politically connected rail builders pockets.

All of the railroads that received federal grants during the period ended up being money losers. I believe it was only the Northwestern, which was privately funded, ended up making money.

What the politicians did was fund the builders of the railroads, who in turn gave the politicians a large amount of stock in the construction companies.

The stock would obviously skyrocket due to the federal subsidies, allowing the politicians and crony construction managers to make a fortune in tax payer loot. The politicians would then sell the stock in the construction firms after the rail was complete.

It was all about building and never about profitable railway operations.

No one cared if the railroads lost money or not.

Total fraud.

If you want to listen to the lectures by Rothbard that dissect this looting of the tax payer by politicians, look here:

fascistsoup.com...

reply to post by ExPostFacto


Plenty of tollways have EZPass or a similar system, negating the need to stop at tollbooths.

Not a bad idea actually.

the ipod was made by apple a corporation not the government

the internet actually began as an idea from the government as a means of communication in the event of nuclear war but wait not so fast private corporations made the internet what it is today.

telephones the brain child of a man named thomas edison who didnt make it for the betterment of society as a whole he thought he could get rich off of it and those businesses that expanded his vision made the phone what it is today.

railways wrong agian private business and individuals who had the vision and put up their own capital and resources to make that vision a reality.

cars the brainchild of private individual who saw a need and provided the product cause he thought he could get rich off of it.

airplanes last time i checked the wright brothers were no government they were two men who had a dream for flight and they made that dream a reality and those who followed made their dreams of providing a product or service to the masses and they thought they could get rich off of it.

no way in hell has government been responsible for anything in this country when it comes to invention of products or goods and services.

it has always been the individual who had the dream and made their visions reality to get rich off of it and for decades they have succeeded.

necessity is the mother of all invention not god the government.

biden is full of bs like all liberal democrats taking credit for works of others is what they do.

meh.............

reply to post by Becoming


Your source, let me see it.

reply to post by neo96

Originally posted by neo96

the ipod was made by apple a corporation not the government

Yes, but it was merely an elaboration on technology that was sponsored by government funding in the first place.

We wouldn't have modern computing without the government. How do you think Turing got his funding?

the internet actually began as an idea from the government as a means of communication in the event of nuclear war but wait not so fast private corporations made the internet what it is today.

"Made it what it is today" isn't what we're talking about. We're talking about vision and incentive. The vision was the government's, it built up a network through state universities, and it allowed the private sector in.

telephones the brain child of a man named thomas edison who didnt make it for the betterment of society as a whole he thought he could get rich off of it and those businesses that expanded his vision made the phone what it is today.

He may have had a hand in inventing the phone, but he didn't create the modern telephone network. Without government that network wouldn't have gotten off the ground.

railways wrong agian private business and individuals who had the vision and put up their own capital and resources to make that vision a reality.

Yeah, because there wasn't any incentive from the government to expand and lower population density.

cars the brainchild of private individual who saw a need and provided the product cause he thought he could get rich off of it.

And guess what, they wouldn't be useful without government roads. The government provided incentive for people to buy them.

airplanes last time i checked the wright brothers were no government they were two men who had a dream for flight and they made that dream a reality and those who followed made their dreams of providing a product or service to the masses and they thought they could get rich off of it.

Wrong again. Their invention wouldn't have made it off the ground (no pun intended) without government funding. They were considered impractical until military applications became widely available.

Airplanes weren't even used for commercial purposes initially, it was all governmental.

no way in hell has government been responsible for anything in this country when it comes to invention of products or goods and services.

Really?

So the government never provided any contracts to companies to create an incentive for them to get a product off the ground?

The government doesn't provide research grants?

"Great ideas" aren't just consumer products and services, they're much more. Scientific research has been helped along vastly by government.

Would private industry have gotten us into space? If so, why didn't they do it before the government?

it has always been the individual who had the dream and made their visions reality to get rich off of it and for decades they have succeeded.

Except no. Nobel invented dynamite, felt really bad, and set about changing things about the world. He set up an enduring and prestigious series of prizes that included grants to ensure that people would work for the betterment of the world rather than the individual.

Government has largely been a funder of research. Every discovery made at a public University? That's the government helping with a new idea. Often great ones arise.

Not everyone is motivated by greed.

necessity is the mother of all invention not god the government.

Necessity? How is greed necessity? Greed is the opposite of necessity, it's excess.

Necessity is the invention of the shadoof to easily get water from a river without being dragged down current or attacked by crocodiles.

Necessity is the invention of the spear to extend our reach against predators and prey.

Necessity is the invention of traps to keep us out of harm's way to gather food.

Making a lot of money? Not necessity.

biden is full of bs like all liberal democrats taking credit for works of others is what they do.

And then full on ideological attack.

He didn't say the government did everything, he said that they helped with the great ideas. They provided an incentive or put forth an opportunity that previously wasn't there.