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Do psychic powers jeopardize intelligence?

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posted on Oct, 24 2010 @ 02:59 AM
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Do psychic powers jeopardize intelligence?

In October of 2008 I was interested in joining an agency of the government, I sent an email to them explaining my attributes and background, I received a reply in that same month. The next month I was offered a job as a cyber intelligence liason. The problem is that during that month I was experiencing a high level of something I cannot explain except that it had to be psychic, it ended up ruining any career I would have in the field I was interested in. I have always been psychic but not to an extent where I can reach the dead or anything like that, but I can have foreknowledge of events in my own life that are going to happen. I felt a strong energy that something good was going to happen prior to the job offer, but in the events that led up to that I was sidetracked by information that complicated my intellect and it now feels as though there was something demonic going on, or in any event something that wanted to direct me away from getting that job. Does anyone have any ideas on what that might could be and if there are intelligence officials that have ever experienced this?



posted on Oct, 24 2010 @ 03:53 AM
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I would guess not but in many respects i feel emotional intelligence far more worthwhile to be blessed with, its nice to be clever i guess (wouldnt know :lol
but ive found its people & relationships that matter and where most happiness through life will come from. A good job & wage are a small price to pay for your abilty and depth of understanding



posted on Oct, 24 2010 @ 04:01 AM
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I just thought of putting in my 2 cents. I do not have any experience with paranormal ability's save for a heightened sence of reading mood's and atmosphere's wich isn't necesarily connected to anything psychic.

However where I come from I always learned that psychic ability's are not something innate to human nature, rather it is a "gift" one can obtain when allowing demonic forces to influence one's life... And those demonic entities sure as hell have their own agenda... I believe that the psychic ability's known to us are something humans are able to wield but they are not something humans are supossed to wield. The way I see it we should be granted these ability's as soon as the apocalypse (read: unveiling of...) has passed us.



posted on Oct, 24 2010 @ 04:08 AM
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I was sidetracked by information that complicated my intellect

...what?



I was experiencing a high level of something I cannot
explain except that it had to be psychic


...could you possibly be any more vague? That's a little too clear for my tastes.



it had to be psychic, it ended up ruining any career I would
have in the field I was interested in.

...why do I get the impression that there's a bit more to this story than you're telling us?



Does anyone have any ideas on what that might could be and if
there are intelligence officials that have ever experienced this?

Are you seriously asking us if we know what the vague thing you haven't explained to us is? Or whether others have also experienced this thing you haven't explained what it is?



something demonic going on

You do understand that telling your controllers that demonic things are going on in your life, and that you have psychic powers but not enough to talk to the dead...probably isn't the best way to start a new career in government?



posted on Oct, 24 2010 @ 04:15 AM
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We are all able to experience psychic abilities imo, most people prob wont but i believe the possibility is still there, they are just not tuned in to it. I agree its a gift, some might say a burdon and i believe the majority of working psychics are not anyway, they have an entirely different ability.

The human brain is a very complex and powerfull organ, capable of so much yet unused to anywhere near its potential. I dont see it as demonic but then thats possibly due to your religious beliefs?

If i didnt know a woman who's word i trust who became psychic following her husbands sudden death then i wouldnt believe it to be a real phenomonen, however she tells me its real & channeling also and so i reluctantly belive its a real thing but truely practised by very very few.

cheers cm



posted on Oct, 24 2010 @ 04:29 AM
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It's sometimes evident that there's an inverse relationship between intelligence and claims for being psychic.



posted on Oct, 24 2010 @ 05:23 AM
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Originally posted by cropmuncher
reply to post by faceoff85
 


The human brain is a very complex and powerfull organ, capable of so much yet unused to anywhere near its potential. I dont see it as demonic but then thats possibly due to your religious beliefs?


Yes you are correct, I would also advise to keep that in mind when reading my responses. I dont necesarily believe psychic/paranormal powers to be demonic of origin, but believing in the word of the bible I have read of many instances when humans were using/calling upon psychic/paranormal powers. The point is that this was done in the name of...(fill in deity of choice). This includes YHWH as well as multiple other gods. Look at story's like Mozes and his escape from egypt. Mozes and the Pharao's priests were really throwing around with "miracle's".


If i didnt know a woman who's word i trust who became psychic following her husbands sudden death then i wouldnt believe it to be a real phenomonen, however she tells me its real & channeling also and so i reluctantly belive its a real thing but truely practised by very very few.

cheers cm


Judging by what I've learned, this woman was seduced by the "dark side of the force" sotaspeak
I know this must sound judgemental but I do not intend to be. Its how I learned it. I wonder how that woman feels over her newfound ability's? I'd say she'd be happy and unhappy about it at the same time. I keep an open mind to things but personally I intend to steer clear of anything psychic related. I am afraid that could literally bring the devil in one's house. I know of a few family's practicing occultism and other psychic related things and none excluded have had mild poltergeist experiences.



posted on Oct, 24 2010 @ 05:50 AM
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Information overload, your life and job follows simple and familiar routines, when there is an outside influence that disturbs the paterns, your mind gets bogged down. Kind of like a computer with viruses it runs slower, or running multiple programmes at once, or in people... when people dont want to hear a unpleasant concept or idea they usually try to put up a mental block, you know stubbornness so as to prevent information getting in and messing with there original programming. Intelect just means patterns of thought you know or trained yourself in or have been trained in, that are in relation to your life and other people who have similar thought patterns.

As to the whole demonic thing that diverted you from your job, who knows, I don't know what a cyber intelligence liason is, and to lazy to scan/search the net to find out what it is. What do you mean by demonic its vague, is it just your interpretation of some outside influence in your thought patterns.



posted on Oct, 24 2010 @ 02:18 PM
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Honestly... (IMO) It's probably best that you didn't get that job. I would give thanks to Yahweh because you would have been working for the Beast which is on Satan's side of the Spiritual War. (And yes, the Beast is well aware of who they're in bed with too.)

Contrary to popular Christian belief there are psychics that work on both sides of the Spiritual War - for Yahweh, and for Satan - both wittingly and unwittingly. Here's some information on Psychics reasoned out via the Scriptures...should you be interested.
edit on 24-10-2010 by ReginaAdonnaAaron because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 24 2010 @ 04:04 PM
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Psychic is intelligence. Does it affect your work as an intelligent agent for your government? If so, that may be the ground for termination. If they know you are psychic and fired you, I believe you can file a law suit. You can not judge the worth of your psychic ability based on how it received by the people at large. That's like saying you value your psychic ability if it brings fortune and luck to you. You hate it when it is not... Perhaps, you have never gotten a good handle of your ability and you have been misguided....



posted on Oct, 24 2010 @ 04:06 PM
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Here's a secret:
Logic = Psychic

Many laugh at this notion. This notion laughs back at them.

The direction you approach it from is how it gets defined.

Do not fear your own nature or your own potential.
Look deep inside to find your truth, but remain rational.

"The only real valuable thing is intuition."
"The only thing that interferes with my learning is my education."
"The eternal mystery of the world is its comprehensibility."
Albert Einstein strikes again!


Be well.
edit on 24-10-2010 by xiphias because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 24 2010 @ 04:21 PM
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Originally posted by faceoff85
I just thought of putting in my 2 cents. I do not have any experience with paranormal ability's save for a heightened sence of reading mood's and atmosphere's wich isn't necesarily connected to anything psychic.

However where I come from I always learned that psychic ability's are not something innate to human nature, rather it is a "gift" one can obtain when allowing demonic forces to influence one's life... And those demonic entities sure as hell have their own agenda... I believe that the psychic ability's known to us are something humans are able to wield but they are not something humans are supossed to wield. The way I see it we should be granted these ability's as soon as the apocalypse (read: unveiling of...) has passed us.


really? so in a blink you can become demonically possessed? the demon will hide in you? that makes sense thank you..... how does one get rid of the demon/negative energy and stop seeing?



posted on Oct, 24 2010 @ 04:44 PM
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Unless you have specifically been hired for your psychic abilities... you pose a security risk in most workplace environments based solely on your vulnerability to outside influences. Think about it.



posted on Oct, 24 2010 @ 04:53 PM
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Originally posted by Anonymous Acorn
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Unless you have specifically been hired for your psychic abilities... you pose a security risk in most workplace environments based solely on your vulnerability to outside influences. Think about it.



Only his psychic abilities have compromised his job functions. If it hasn't happened, he can't get fired for his psychic abilities. What is his psychic abilities fall under? Drug use? Beliefs? I think the OP isn't telling the whole story.



posted on Oct, 24 2010 @ 04:59 PM
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I was sidetracked by information that complicated my intellect


Information cant complicate your intellect, it can confuse you but your still the same intelligent person. Just confused.

Anyway, this reminds me of a documentary i watched about when the russians were playing around with psychics in order to harness thier power for military gains. To cut a long story short. They built a machine based on their research that directed electro magnetic fields at a CIA office block, which made the staff that work there become paranoid. Some developed cancer, some got really bad migranes stuff like that.

I wonder whether they might still use things like this or maybe the Government does to test peoples tollerance levels of Eletro magnetic wave attacks.

It could have been a secret test that you failed due to your extra sensitivity.
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posted on Oct, 24 2010 @ 07:18 PM
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Hmmmn. Since I don't live inside your head, and you were vague in the style of sales teasers about some of this, I'm not sure how to evaluate your own experience. I can comment on mine, though.

I'm ridiculously left-brain about most things. Not as much as I used to be; I've changed a lot over the last 15 years, but prior to that, I was an 'official' skeptic, hypnotist, pretty scornful of all things psychic, alien, metaphysical, etc.

Then my perception started... cracking open you might say. Now with more study I can say I'm pretty sure I had a kundalini experience or part of one, which had a lot of predictable side effects. Among them, I began having a lot of "anomalous experience," ranging from precog dreams to psi awareness about someone near me to bizarre "interactions" with a sense of identities not embodied, as well as various paranormal phenomenon (quasi-poltergeist stuff, seeming multiple timelines, sudden visions, etc.).

I managed to keep a very demanding, very left-brain job, but I felt as if I had two separate lives, one of them secret and bizarre, one the "normal" world at work. When the former sometimes infringed on the latter timing-wise, I'd be just enraged, as if it wasn't fair, and that should be a safe space. But I have to say, the only part that I felt made my regular job complicated, was (a) the alternate timelines issue, and that was a very brief period that passed thankfully, and (b) that my nights were really screwed up -- I was not getting enough sleep, or enough 'rest' when I did. I'm not sure what you mean about stuff messing with your intelligence. Maybe some examples would help.


it now feels as though there was something demonic going on, or in any event something that wanted to direct me away from getting that job.

I've come to understand over the years that we all have more than enough aspects of self to not really need anything external to screw with us. We are a consortium of identities, more composing us, part of what composes others, large and small, symbiotes, and there's other relationships as well. "Consciousness is an organizing principle." When you pull these energies into alignment with your Will (and your 'Higher Will', for lack of a better description for the Divine nesting of identities), you join and become more singular. Much fragmentation is LEGION; much unity is I AM.

Probably the qualities which have most saved me from going around the bend over the years, particularly because I am very intellectual on one side but working with (and spontaneously getting) intuitive stuff on the other side, are these:

1. A helluva sense of humor about myself and the universe. The more I know about life, the more I realize what an idiot I am, and I hope anybody above me has a sense of humor too. The world is actually pretty hilarious.

2. A refusal to let my ego convince me how special I am (I'm just unique--like everyone else, lol). I remind myself regularly that I am just not that important to the universe. This is very helpful in dealing with the messianic/paranoic tendencies that imaginal-realm (note: that does not mean imaginary) exposure often brings.

3. A discipline where I look at everything as "a psychological case study" and so treat it like a fascinating experience, but I try not to get too wrapped around the axle about the various events that most impact me.

4. Some degree of 'lack of integration'. This is not necessarily good you understand, and it limits me in some respects, but it also has allowed me to skirt the two incompatible reality models crashing inside my head. Forcing these worldviews to match when you aren't ready for that, I think can cause an actual psychotic break.

5. "It's just another day." That's the phrase that I held onto tightest during the weirdest periods. No matter how fascinating your head might be, you still gotta get up in the morning and go make a living, and if you can't keep that together then you're screwed, so that has to come first.

6. Gluten grains are so hard-correlated to bipolar and especially schizophrenia at this point in research and practical empirical work of medical professionals that use nutrition to deal with illness, that if you're having ANY issues with obsession, paranoia, messiana, trauma, spontaneous unwanted experience, etc., then do yourself a huge favor and get gluten and probably dairy (especially soft dairy) as far out of your diet as possible. It won't kill anybody to eat meat and vegetables for a little while and it can clear up problems caused by neurotoxins.

I am not suggesting here that psychic functioning is only imagination or a bad brain reaction, I hope you understand; I am saying the body and the mind are one (the wave/particle versions of your focus-personality), and you can stomp through yucky puddles in either and it affects the other, so don't complicate the shamanic process, which requires a very clear mind and focus to walk that borderland, with damage from simple things like that.

I hope that helps in some way.

Best,
RC
edit on 24-10-2010 by RedCairo because: I can't type worth a damn apparently



posted on Oct, 24 2010 @ 07:26 PM
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I forgot to say one of the things I hit reply for, oh brother --

Just because 'something' 'kept you from getting that job' doesn't mean it is demonic. You have no idea how that job might have turned out. You could be dead now. Maybe what you perceive as demonic was simply whatever it needed to be, to spare you that future probability.

RC



posted on Oct, 24 2010 @ 08:26 PM
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Honestly no, it doesn't in fact, it means the exact opposite, we use more of our brain = higher intelligence, when we evolve altogether everyone will be psychic telepathic and mediums!



posted on Oct, 27 2010 @ 05:25 AM
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One could say that being a psychic is the same as being a prophet depending on how you look at it, i my self am Christian but don't believe in organized religion as i think alot of it is corrupt, trust me i'm no saint but a prophet and psychic could be the same thing just two people looking at it differently, remember when Jesus preformed miracles some at the time thought it was the work of the devil too....


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posted on Nov, 12 2010 @ 10:48 PM
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Heard they increase intelligence.More abilities you are aware of, the higher your intelligence is.
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