Diabetes to double or triple in U.S. by 2050: government

Diabetes to double or triple in U.S. by 2050: government



Alarming indeed.

Now, if Americans are following the guidelines given by the government over the last 30 years, which they have, and they're getting fatter, more atherosclerotic and more diabetic, which they are, is it such a stretch to say the guidelines are wrong or even contributive to the problem?

No! It's not. In fact, that would be the logical conclusion. The real question is....

Would the government ever admit that their official dietary guidelines over the past 30 years have been contributing to the diseases of aging?

Something else to keep in mind...

Diabetes is a disease of carbohydrate metabolism. It's essentially a carbohydrate intolerance.

So...why do dietary guidelines suggest low fat, high carb diets?

And who in their right mind would prescribe a high carb diet to people with, or at risk for, diabetes?

The CDC report is alarming, but not surprising.

Originally posted by DevolutionEvolvd
Something else to keep in mind...

Diabetes is a disease of carbohydrate metabolism. It's essentially a carbohydrate intolerance.

So...why do dietary guidelines suggest low fat, high carb diets?

And who in their right mind would prescribe a high carb diet to people with, or at risk for, diabetes?

The CDC report is alarming, but not surprising.

So your saying a low carb diet is good for people at risk of diabete or at risk?

Because i know that carbohydrated turn to sugar after they are not used that can't be good for a diabetes paitient right?

Also wouldn't you expect more people with diabetes because of a population boom. More people more diabetes right? More people more accidental deathes?

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The article addresses the population issue.

And, yes, carbohydrates spike blood glucose, which is why high-carb diets are horrible for diabetics.

Originally posted by DevolutionEvolvd
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The article addresses the population issue.

And, yes, carbohydrates spike blood glucose, which is why high-carb diets are horrible for diabetics.

Seems like some of these goons that are making up high carb diets are rly trying to kill the people at risk or with diabete off quicker that don't know better! IMO

I was watching a documentary called King Corn. They were talking about corn syrup (corn sugar, if you prefer) being a cause of it. Exercise is a good way to avoid it. Alcohol can also be a contributing factor. A lot of sugar goes into making alcohol. Genetics also plays a part. A large number of Native Americans are diabetic. Their ways of life was altered due to colonization. The Zuni people are a good example. They once were active people and ran foot races. After they were colonized by the Spanish, this stopped. The result was diabetes. They've started a program to combat it by bringing back the races. Source.

Originally posted by Skid Mark
I was watching a documentary called King Corn. They were talking about corn syrup (corn sugar, if you prefer) being a cause of it. Exercise is a good way to avoid it. Alcohol can also be a contributing factor. A lot of sugar goes into making alcohol. Genetics also plays a part. A large number of Native Americans are diabetic. Their ways of life was altered due to colonization. The Zuni people are a good example. They once were active people and ran foot races. After they were colonized by the Spanish, this stopped. The result was diabetes. They've started a program to combat it by bringing back the races. Source.

That is a hell of a documentry. Corn syrup taste toooooo freakin good though.. I understand that to much is really bad. Have to watch all that soda. Ever drink schnops that is one sugary drink. YUCK I downed about a water bottles worth before and I thought atleast it felt like I was going to have a heart attack. Same with drinking a smirnoff to quick.. If your lady drinks to many of those she will plump up like a tomatoe.

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I prefer honey. I also heard that Stevia is a good alternative to sugar or corn syrup.

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The Zuni didn't begin to develop diabetes because of a lack of exercise. It was the westernization of their diet.

Their traditional diet was supplied heavily by the wild animals of the land around them. Now their diet consists of sugar and processed foods....leading to diabetes.

www.gken.org...

As the tribes have moved away from a way of life based on agriculture, hunting, and foot transportation, a more sedentary lifestyle rooted in mechanization, office work, automobiles and television has replaced it. A traditionally high fiber diet has also been replaced by a diet heavy in processed foods, fat, and
sugar.

The Pima Indians, a population with the highest diabetes rates in the world, experienced the same thing. They were affluent and lived off the land when they were healthy but when the 49ers came along and hunted all of the wild game they became poor and now they on government rations of sugar and coffee and bread.

Originally posted by DevolutionEvolvd
Something else to keep in mind...

Diabetes is a disease of carbohydrate metabolism. It's essentially a carbohydrate intolerance.

So...why do dietary guidelines suggest low fat, high carb diets?

And who in their right mind would prescribe a high carb diet to people with, or at risk for, diabetes?

The CDC report is alarming, but not surprising.

excellent question..

being a diabetic who depends on insulin and go days with out it at some times because i cant afford it iv been doing alternative remedies research. im not over weight...in fact im quite opposite, very tall and skinny. i havnt found anything yet to help my case but for the group of diabetics due to their over weight i found carbs are the one of the biggest factors, you need them but in moderation, and since carbs are in almost everything good its hard. but through my research i have found that a table spoon of apple cider vinegar, tea spoon of cinnamon, and tea spoon of honey every morning have significantly decreased the amount of medication needed in type 2 diabetics. BUT they still need to keep clear of over consuming carbs, and exercise is always a plus

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So you're a type 2, insulin dependent diabetic? or type 1?

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type one, insulin dependent. mine came out of nowhere, im a pretty healthy fella...or was. uncontrolled diabetes does incredible amount of damage to everything in your body

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That explains why you're so thin. WIth the inability to produce insulin, your body has a tough time keeping fat stored and building muscle. Types 1 and 2 are different in that type 1's don't produce insulin and type 2's produce too much (until a certain point).

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i wouldnt say type 2 diabetics produce too much insulin. with diabetes your glucose fluctuates up and down. type one have lost total control where type 2 can still manage with certain meds and diet and exercise. the kind you speak of that produces too much insulin is either HYPOglycemic or HYPERglycemic. one produces too much and one produces not enough. so with those two types your glucose level on leans one way instead of like diabetics where your levels go both ways

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Here's a summary....

Diabetes Mellitus means, quite literally, sweet tasting urine. When blood glucose rises too high it spills over into the urine in attempt to lower it back to normal.

Diabetes Mellitus Type 1: The pancreas is unable to produce insulin and glucose is unable to be metabolized. It's generally caused by an autoimmune destruction to the beta cells in the pancreas (the cells that produce insulin). Before the isolation of insulin in 1921, children diagnosed with diabetes often died within the following couple of years. Because their bodies were unable to metabolize glucose and because eating too much would cause a deadly rush of blood glucose, the children became emaciated as their parents watched them literally starve to death. Injectible insulin was literally a miracle drug. However, it didn't come without fault.

Type 1 diabetics today think that because of insulin they can eat how ever much of whatever they want. There is an unfortunate side effect from this careless action. It's called an insulin resistant type 1 diabetic. Essentially, type 1 diabetics overuse inulin and become type 2 diabetics.

Diabetes Mellitus Type 2: A chronic disease in which cells become resistant to insulin, making it difficult to metabolize glucose in the blood. Insulin resistance is developed over time by excessive carbohydrate consumption (especially fructose), processed industrial seed oil consumption, trans-fat consumption and excessive alcohol consumption. Once insulin resistance begins the pancreas begins releasing more insulin to counter the blunted insulin response....which, in turn, leads to more insulin resistance...leading to more insulin production....more insulin resistance...it's a vicious cycle.

In some cases, when the beta cells in the pancreas can't produce enough insulin to combat the resistance, type 2 diabetics become insulin dependent to regulate glucose levels. In other cases, beta cells completely burn out and type 2 diabetics simply stop producing insulin altogether, at which point they become type 1 diabetic.

Because insulin regulates fat metabolism and is an anabolic hormone, most type 2 diabetics are overweight (obdominal) and most type 1 diabetics are lean.

reply to post by DevolutionEvolvd


thank you for the enlightenment, i've never heard it like that...but let me get this right...(im only using myself as an example, i dont want people to think im seeking medical advice here)
if i over eat carbs and try to make up for it by taking more insulin then eventually i will be come resistant to it and become a type 2 diabetic. but...

Once insulin resistance begins the pancreas begins releasing more insulin to counter the blunted insulin response....which, in turn, leads to more insulin resistance...leading to more insulin production....more insulin resistance...it's a vicious cycle.

so, im not quite sure i understand this. is this saying that diabetics are still producing they're own natural insulin, but its not effective?
(im also very sorry this does not have much to do with your op, i will gladly start a new thread if need be)

Originally posted by dowhatyoufear3
reply to post by DevolutionEvolvd

 

if i over eat carbs and try to make up for it by taking more insulin then eventually i will be come resistant to it and become a type 2 diabetic.

Yes. It happens more often than most realize. The reason is...inulin in high amounts can be damaging so the cells purposefully reduce receptor cite sensitivity, often times reducing the number of receptors.

so, im not quite sure i understand this. is this saying that diabetics are still producing they're own natural insulin, but its not effective?

Generally, type 2 diabetics produce too much insulin, hyperinsulinemia, but they have to in order to lower blood glucose. So...you're correct. They still produce insulin but the body is ignoring it. So it has to produce more to get the job done. Understand, however, that type 1 diabetics do not produce insulin.

(im also very sorry this does not have much to do with your op, i will gladly start a new thread if need be)

No worries!

My husband is a type two and lost his leg last year. I'll tell you, he went through years of hell with trying to get the right combo of meds at the right dosage for his health problems and almost died. Finally he has the right meds at the right doses, has a prosthetic and is able to walk. My biggest advice to anyone who is diabetic: Get a diabetes specialist besides your regular doctor. It is essential!! Check your feet often and get attention to any wounds that don't heal quickly. You would be amazed at how quickly a wound can get out of control for a diabetic and you start losing a toe or foot or leg. Please watch your diets carefully. This is not a death sentence and can be controlled.

Originally posted by DevolutionEvolvd
Something else to keep in mind...

Diabetes is a disease of carbohydrate metabolism. It's essentially a carbohydrate intolerance.

So...why do dietary guidelines suggest low fat, high carb diets?

And who in their right mind would prescribe a high carb diet to people with, or at risk for, diabetes?

The CDC report is alarming, but not surprising.

i have diabetes 2, the doctor and the dietician have NEVER suggested a high carb diet, the exact opposite is what i have been told to follow. by the way, being on a diabetic diet, no processed sugar, low carb, low fat, has made me feel the best i have felt in years. my doctor said that if all people were on such a diet, the amount saved in medical costs would be in the tens of billions of dollars a year. i sleep better, i feel a physical calmness, my skin cleared up, i have no heartburn, i have more energy, i breathe easier, i have been losing about 4 pounds a week. i was 253, now i'm at 226, and my goal is 200...i'm 6' 1" tall, and my doctor said i could start eating small servings of pasta, and start eating bread again when i get down to 200. i eat fish, chicken, and turkey for meat sources. no beef, no pork, no fast food, no desserts.

Originally posted by jimmyx


i have diabetes 2, the doctor and the dietician have NEVER suggested a high carb diet, the exact opposite is what i have been told to follow. by the way, being on a diabetic diet, no processed sugar, low carb, low fat, has made me feel the best i have felt in years.

I'm curious. Usually, in order to get enough calories, you have to either consume a low-carb/high-fat diet or a low-fat/high-carb diet. But you're eating low-fat/low-carb?

Why avoid beef? Why are you avoiding fat?