Webster Tarpley predicted Wikileaks release would shift blame & US Aggression from Afghan to Pakista

Webster Tarpley predicted months before the Wiki leaks release that it's content would the Shift blame & US Aggression from Afghanistan to Pakistan and Iran.

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Webster Tarpley predicted on Oct 16th prior the wiki leaks release that it would blame Pakistan & Iran! He thinks that the CIA is preparing news propaganda for a forthcoming war with Iran & Pakistan. Iran's president stated at the UN that the us would attack 2 countries in the next 3 months. The heavily censored "leaks" talk of atrocities but does not contains the names of the perpetrators of these acts of torture & murder. Think about it.

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Webster Tarpley predicted months before the wiki leaks release that it would shift blame against Pakistan & Iran for failure in other wars. ! He thinks that the CIA is preparing news propaganda for a forthcoming war with Iran & Pakistan. Iran's president stated at the UN that the us would attack 2 countries in the next 3 months. The heavily censored "leaks" talk of atrocities but does not contains the names of the perpetrators of these acts of torture & murder. Think about it. in the link it is the 2 second file from the bottom and is date July of 2010.

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reply to post by pupetmaster


It is not prediction, it is knowing that these leaks are BS and that these leaks are controlled, and managed by the US themselves.

I agree that it is a start of something, it almost always starts with propaganda warfare, then ends up with real war, death, destruction and torture.

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the CIA just asked Pakistan if it can widen its presence in the country www.hindustantimes.com...

Originally posted by oozyism
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It is not prediction, it is knowing that these leaks are BS and that these leaks are controlled, and managed by the US themselves.

I agree that it is a start of something, it almost always starts with propaganda warfare, then ends up with real war, death, destruction and torture.

Well the leader of IRAN does want everyone in the USA dead and he really would love to get some nukes to blow up a whole city. I mean we have to be realistic. We are not going to be able to just stay out of war... Maybe some of them shouldn't of happened but some of them HAVE to happen for the peace and security of me and you. Thats why my hats off to the military. No one is perfect but the USA tries it's best and does it better then most countries.

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your being sarcastic right?
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Originally posted by danielhanson420
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your being sarcastic right?
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That is exactly what I was gonna ask until scrolled down and read your comment ..
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I highly doubt that a leak that shows how poorly executed a war we started was performed will gain support for two more wars. That is ridiculous thinking. This leak shows massive civilian casualties and torture. It's intentions are to show the cost of war and that even the U.S. is capable of atrocities. How on Earth would this leak allow the U.S. to shift into another war (two even)?!

Originally posted by danielhanson420
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the CIA just asked Pakistan if it can widen its presence in the country www.hindustantimes.com...

edit on 23-10-2010 by danielhanson420 because: iv got spell check and still come across illiterate

Yeah they just asked because they gave them two billion dollars in military aid (an ignorant move that you and I pay for). It's called buttering them up.

Originally posted by GogoVicMorrow
I highly doubt that a leak that shows how poorly executed a war we started was performed will gain support for two more wars. That is ridiculous thinking. This leak shows massive civilian casualties and torture. It's intentions are to show the cost of war and that even the U.S. is capable of atrocities. How on Earth would this leak allow the U.S. to shift into another war (two even)?!

Actually these leaks blamed all the problems on Iran and Syria. The US apparently was and is as innocent as it can be.

The previous leak blamed all the problems on Pakistan.

So all the blame goes on Pakistan and Iran, the US hasn't mismanaged the war.

You can see the product of the wars through these leaks, as mismanagement, or as outside interference, hence Pakistan and Iran.

The American people, and Europeans, with the help of corrupt world media will obviously believe the interference, like they believe Saddam had WMD, and like they believed the Hijackers were Afghans therefore invaded Afghanistan.

Originally posted by oozyism

Originally posted by GogoVicMorrow
I highly doubt that a leak that shows how poorly executed a war we started was performed will gain support for two more wars. That is ridiculous thinking. This leak shows massive civilian casualties and torture. It's intentions are to show the cost of war and that even the U.S. is capable of atrocities. How on Earth would this leak allow the U.S. to shift into another war (two even)?!

Actually these leaks blamed all the problems on Iran and Syria. The US apparently was and is as innocent as it can be.

The previous leak blamed all the problems on Pakistan.

So all the blame goes on Pakistan and Iran, the US hasn't mismanaged the war.

You can see the product of the wars through these leaks, as mismanagement, or as outside interference, hence Pakistan and Iran.

The American people, and Europeans, with the help of corrupt world media will obviously believe the interference, like they believe Saddam had WMD, and like they believed the Hijackers were Afghans therefore invaded Afghanistan.

No one has even seen this entire leak yet. They definitely aren't blaming the sixty some thousand civilian casualties on anyone else. You guys can't cherry pick the leak. Also I can't believe you would even say the US was as innocent as can be. Don't forget the soldiers raping Iraqis in prison, raping their wives and children in front of the men in attempts to make them give information. The rape and torture that was photographed that our president acknowledged as having happened refusing to release the photos.

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i dont pay the CIA, its MI5&6 on this side of the pond mate. i know what you mean tho
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Originally posted by danielhanson420
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i dont pay the CIA, its MI5&6 on this side of the pond mate. i know what you mean tho
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Haha.. either way, we share a similar pain.
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Originally posted by thecinic

Well the leader of IRAN does want everyone in the USA dead and he really would love to get some nukes to blow up a whole city.

Prove it! or admit to being either ill informed or a liar.

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We don't know what pain is over here. the kids of afghanistan, Iraq, Somalia, guatemala. nicaragua, Columbia, omen, palestine, Haiti, sierra Leone, Peru and many more.... they know pain

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In my opinion wiki leaks is not objective, censors & give editorial context to their releases. "collateral murder"!
If they really wanted to show to the world how the US murdered & tortured civilians and used all sorts of illegal techniques while not following any of the Geneva conventions; They would have released the names of the guilty in us forces for means of real prosecution. Isn't why wiki leaks is being allegedly threatened by the pentagon?
Tarpley describes Julian Assange as a chosen symbol of a hero for all geeky alienated youth, perhaps intentionally created image by intelligence agencies. A real wiki leak would have stuff on 9-11 & UFOs. With all these latest disclosures in both of these fields not one report of significance about this is on wiki leaks. ex: Sidbel Edmonds is probably the key witness of many key events leading to 9-11 and since she is blocked by a gag order in the us she could or would have released info through wiki leaks .... somehow this has not happened.

Instead most of this leak dump in the mainstream media put blame on Pakistan, Syria & Iran.
Nobody addressed the point that Iran's president (a very sane man if you listen properly to all his interviews with western nations, we are the ones demonizing him) stated at the UN that the US already planned to attack 2 other middle eastern countries within 3 months. The US is a worst threat to the world than all of these countries combined. The US, instead of selling 80 B$ worth of arms to the Saudis (home of alleged 9-11 hijackers) could force Israel to the peace talks by ordering a stop to settlements, stopping financial & military aid while supporting them politically in the context of a new peace. It feels like the Neocons still control US foreign policy.

I don't think wiki leaks is genuine anymore. On another point, one cannot argue that for our security we must pre-emptively attack many countries without prior confrontation. Iran is a signatory to the NPT and Israel is not. I'm more scared of the extremism in Israel (ultra-orthodox, armed settlers on Palestinian land, likoud party in power with Benjamin netanyahu at it's head. This man once personally ordered through the Mossad to have a political leader of the Hamas (not military, was elected by Palestinians) killed in egypt.) Israel is more likely to use their nuclear weapons and in fact have mined small nuclear land mines (according to the book "Le mossad de 1951 à aujourd'hui") between Jordan & Israel.

I think these wars are coming, pushed by vulcan necon advisers that are still in high positions. It's also a currency war to save the American dollar, ensure that iran doesn't become a regional power and maintain USA military hegemony & dominance. The main reason is that Iran is trading petrolium in EUROS & wants to establish a oil trading & securities exchange in the middle east (only 3 new york, london, and another in the states all in american dollars). Perhaps also to show Russia & China not to mess with them. If the war with Iran it will definitely affect both China & Russia financially.

All this from a seemingly innocent whistler blower site trying to expose injustices.

Thoughts?

Would someone care to point out where the leaks blame Iran and Pakistan because you seem to be talking about different leaks than I've been reading?!

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Hi FrakkerFace,

This is an analysis by AL-jazeera & the london bureau of journalism of the Iraq Files pointing to Iranian intelligence helping the militias, giving them weapons. But hard to prove.
english.aljazeera.net...

it says that
"It is difficult to determine from these documents whether those allegations are true – though in a few cases, they offer reason to doubt the official US line. In February 2007, for example, the US claimed that a weapons cache uncovered in Hillah in Babil province showed evidence of Iranian involvement. "The new evidence includes infrared sensors, electronic triggering devices and information about plastic explosives used in bombs that the Americans say lead back in Iran.

But the actual report from that incident suggests a more complicated picture:The rockets were indeed Iranian-made, but the "Soldiers of Heaven" literature was never publicly reported before. That was a Shia group which fought a number of pitched battles with US forces in 2006 and 2007; a staunchly nationalist group with no known ties to Iran."

(5th paragraph from the bottom)
www.bbc.co.uk...

New york Times - War logs
www.nytimes.com...

French last paragraph Iran involment
www.cyberpresse.ca... _categorieinterne=trafficdrivers&utm_contenuinterne=cyberpresse_B13b_moyen-orient_291_section_POS3

Syria
english.aljazeera.net...

Pakistan
www.lemonde.fr...=1429641< br /> This French link explains a further Afghanistan leak coming soon that will implicate Pakistan.

All these articles also mention that the source of these leaks is the same as the previous leak.
Sounds to me like a controlled & edited release.

reply to post by GogoVicMorrow

No one has even seen this entire leak yet. They definitely aren't blaming the sixty some thousand civilian casualties on anyone else. You guys can't cherry pick the leak. Also I can't believe you would even say the US was as innocent as can be. Don't forget the soldiers raping Iraqis in prison, raping their wives and children in front of the men in attempts to make them give information. The rape and torture that was photographed that our president acknowledged as having happened refusing to release the photos.

Yes, we didn't find out about those rapes and tortures from WikiLeak reports, we found those out from those pictures, which were true leaks.

These Leaks are the propaganda front for a war, they are probably looking at American reaction in regards to these Leaks.

Obviously to give it credibility they will say that US was tiny winy bit involved, like staying silent to Iraqi VS Iraqi torture.