Originally posted by gem_man
Rabbi Yosef ,one of the most popular and highly regarded Rabbis in Israel is once again spreading his message of hate. He believes and teaches non
Jews are alive only to serve Jews, the master race.
This pitiful excuse for a holy man shows his racist, hateful side once again. Sadly it isn't just him but more and more Rabbis are expousing the same
filth. This incitment to hatred should not go unpunished but of course it will as the Rabbis defense will simply be that what he said is EXACTLY as it
is written in the Torah so he is simply repeating what God has already said.
It is interresting to note that when the Nazi's were saying the same thing about Jews, world Jewry went crazy (as well they should have)
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Umm, i have the transcript of what he said, and he most certainly did not say "gentiles need to die"
That could be INFERRED from his statements, but to say he said that is dishonest and a little radical. He said the sole purpose of gentiles is to
serve Jews. Thats very different from saying "gentiles need to die". I would like to know who wrote that article. This shmuck is spreading
antisemitism with such fanatical titles and manipulation of comments.
I agree that his statements were offensive. Im a non Jew who believes in the Torah, studies rabbinic Judaism, Kabbalah, Chassidut, and i may infact
convert when the time is right (ive been studying Judaism for the past 5 years, daily 3-5 hours, so i have a pretty good understanding of how Jews
think of non Jews). I am offended. plain and simple. I have never encountered statements that spoke so impudently about the influence of non Jews.
However, contrary to your generalizations about Judaism (and im speaking specifically about real Judaism, that is, Orthodox) there are plenty of
Rabbis and organization that are involved in outreach to non Jews, to help them serve the one G-d in the role of a non Jew, and following the 7
noahide laws. Such examples are the very famous Rebbe of Lubavitch, Temple institute and their website UniversalTorah, Azamra.org, LazerBrody.net, Sam
Peaks and many more.
The exact nature of his statements are cloaked in allegory, which in itself is a result of the very philosophical and symbolic nature of both the
bible, talmud, mishna, Midrash and kabbalistic writings, thus, they language he uses reflects this metaphorical substratum that underlies all Rabbinic
thought.
That being said, i still dont think it was a smart thing to say. But, he said it. He didnt mean it at all as "gentiles need to die". Whats
ultimately meant by his statements is that Abraham, and his Judaism, will eventually draw the whole world into accepting the Judaic vision of reality.
This of course is not to be understood in a superficial manner. Judaism believes this world and this reality is meant to be united with the spiritual
world - this contradicts views found in gnosticism, sufism and eastern thought which seeks to separate the two worlds, each relinquished to the sphere
which is relevant to it. Thus, if everyone - the nations (which is what goyim means in Hebrew, Goy is sing. for nation, and Goyim pl.for nations) are
destined to concede and give up their views about reality, which are materialistic, dualistic and in essence, focused on man (which is why its marked
by an antinomianism which permits perversions of all sorts) this in effect makes them servants to the vision o reality enivsaged by the Jewish people,
which was given to them by G-d in the Torah.
Thus, non Jews are servants ONLY in the sense that this attitude is not intrinsic to their nature. In the beginning, it will be a servitude to the
vision of Judaism, and thus we will be serving by following their direction. But in the end, the ultimate goal is not servitude, but for each person
from every unique nation reflecting their own uniqueness by serving G-d and g-d alone. Not Jews.
Personally, i dont like the idea of 'serving Jews' either. But in one way that context is valid, and thats the fact that this mentality is so
foreign to the majority of the gentile world. Humility is a trait that i have found most evinced in Judaism. I had studied Eastern thought, Islam
(sufism) and western thought and in so many cases you just find a blatant self delusion and virtual worship of the self. Thats the issue.
Nonetheless, im in close correspondence with a prominent Israeli Rabbi and he explained to me that not all Non Jews are in the category of servants to
Jews. That is, Tzaddikim (righteous people) and Chassidim (pious people) of the nations are themselves only servants to G-d, but nonetheless, they
should look to Judaism as a root whereas they are the branch.
None of this is meant to be disparaging, and in fact i resent statements like this because of the controversy and ammo it gives to Israelis enemies.
Judaism is truly good, and they do not, both theologically and morally speaking, want the gentiles "to die". That is anathema. Many Jews have taken
gentiles under their wings. I am close with many Jews and Rabbis, and theyre my greatest friends and some of the nicest, gentlest and caring of
people. If i could only convey to you my experiences with Jews you would see the beauty of their nature, and alos he beauty of the relatonship which
exists between Jew and Non Jew.
Its a complicated subject which if someone isnt privy to esoteric concepts would probably find supercilious or subjective. Both are veyr valid
responses. I can only say as someone who cares for my gentile brethren and who cares to justify their equal worth in the eyes of G-d, that Judaism
does not deprecate Gentiles. They are considered as being given a different purpose in the world, 70 different purposes to be exact, Jews and Judaism
were given the job of serving as priests, and spiritual leaders to the world, not to demean or give them a feeling of inferiority. G-d knows that no
good priest would seek to elevate himself before his congregation, but in fact would desire the opposite. To efface himself towards them.
Ovadia Yosef did not show that, and because he spoke so harshly i was offended and emailed a few of my rabbi friends to help explain to me what on
earth he meant by saying what he did. What ive explained throughout this post was some of what i was told, and a bit of my own knowledge.
Hope it helped clarifiy atleast some confusion.