When will David Cameron release British UFO files if at all? We were promised full disclosure.

I wanted to start this thread as i think it is highly suspicious that so many people running for leadership of their countries promise disclosure while trying to get into office and then go quiet on the subject when they are elected. I know it has happened in the past and Cameron was the latest.

There could be a number different reasons that disclosure never comes.
There could genuinely be nothing of any major importance that will change anyone's opinion on the subject. Maybe the governments don't know anything. (I doubt this is the case.)

Maybe aliens have visited and the government know about it but the aliens are sinister and are here for reasons that we are better off not knowing about.

They could just tell us that they will give us disclosure for votes but unless I have been duped, I genuinely believed Cameron was passionate about the UFO/Alien subject.

I just find it so difficult to believe that the most powerful man in the country doesn't have the power to release anything of any importance regarding UFO/Aliens. How could that possibly be.

Anyway the point of this thread is that I think that one good thing has come out of the tories being voted in to parliament and that is that Cameron is a Spacehead. His eyes lit up and he always to be raised when the subject of UFO's were brought up. I think that now is the best time for us in the U.K to really push for our files to be released as I'm sure that Cameron wants to know as much as we do whether we are alone or not.

Here is a link in which Cameron talks about giving the U.K disclosure. This is one of many statements rgarding aliens made by Cameron. What would it hurt to get onto him and hassle him to find out more. I for one will definitely be trying my luck. I will be writing to him until I get a reply and i will obviously post any reply i get on ats!

naturalplane.blogspot.com...

A couple more links. (More of the same really.): www.thesun.co.uk...

www.telegraph.co.uk...

reply to post by jexmo


Thanks for the links. I never knew that Cameron had said that and I found his joke about Mandelson pretty funny

Seriously though, I think he has bigger fish to fry right now. But I'll keep my eyes open for any further comments from him about this!

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I think there are two problems here. First, it does not benifit the government of any nation to have to flat out admit that every prime minister, defence minister, and public relations official has LIED to the people for any reason, let alone something as massive and as important to all of humanity as this subject.
It would shatter peoples belief in a system of government that many of us already grow sick of more with each passing second, rendering voting moot because no one would be able to fool themselves that the parties were in any way different.
And second, if IF there was a politician in parliment today , who was actualy going to follow through with a campaign promise to release British UFO files ,I can tell you this... His name is not David Cameron, and he is not a member of the Conservative party.

David Cameron is a politician , politicians will say and do anything to get elected , then once in power go back on most of what was said .
Cameron will no doubt point out that the British government is in the process of releasing the MOD files and that's as far as any disclosure on his part will go , its sad but thats the way it goes .

Here in the States, Presidents Carter and Clinton sought to get to the bottom of the UFO question while in office, but were unable to. Even Presidents and Prime Ministers are apparently outside the inner cabal of those who know and conceal greater knowledge about UFOs. Ross

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Even if they do release all the UFO files, do you really think they would release anything that provides definative proof. I would be surprised if they just burn those as soon as possible, just incases theres a leak.

People cant release what does'nt exist, its the best form of protection. Instead you'll just get a lot of obscure cases that will keep us busy for a while, but no closer to the truth about anything.

I dont care whether he does or he does'nt. It will cause more confusion than anything else.

Originally posted by KrypticCriminal
I dont care whether he does or he does'nt. It will cause more confusion than anything else.

Newly released UFO files from the UK government

Files released in August 2010
www.nationalarchives.gov.uk...


Previously released UFO files
A selection of UFO files from The National Archives
www.nationalarchives.gov.uk...


Enjoy



They were free for the first year, but now they cost £3.50 each... If anyone buys some, I'll trade for the 2008 and 2009 ones that I have

At least the NSA gives theirs for free

Maybe he has been told to shut up?
Maybe he hasn't been allowed to know?

Or, maybe, just maybe, there's nothing to disclose?

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Thanks for the links.

Theres no way im paying £3.50 for them. Not that i cant afford it, its just they may contain nothing at all.

Have you searched to see if anyone who has bought them has released them themselves for free. You never know your luck

Originally posted by KrypticCriminal
Have you searched to see if anyone who has bought them has released them themselves for free. You never know your luck

Well I d/led all the ones from the 2008 and 2009 free release and have hundreds released by the NSA, CIA Airforce, Canada France and several other countries. The NSA has that good on on the Iranian UFO

I will eventually get them sorted and online... but I am sure someone will post the rest eventually... maybe MUFON who just got $1 million in support

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So in your honest oppinion.

Have any of those cases that were released convinced you that they were Alien in origin?
Do any of them leave you with the sense that something was missing from the whole account?

I cant imagine ever finding proof in anything the Gov releases. That does'nt subtract from how fascinating the cases are i know. It just feels like they only ever release those cases that leave more questions than answers. Or that can be interpreted many different ways. All you ever get is bias acusations. For the best part the people who look at these reports, do so looking for proof and may very well over look the obvious, as they do.

Originally posted by KrypticCriminal
So in your honest oppinion.
Have any of those cases that were released convinced you that they were Alien in origin?

No they don't release the true 'visitor' reports. my opinion is 85%ish of sightings (after balloons etc are eliminated as best as possible) are plasma 'critters' 15%ish are our black ops and 5%ish are the 'true visitors'

I suppose you could class the 'critters' as an alien life form, but I just consider them native to the earth and vicinity. Science is slowly catching up on that

Do any of them leave you with the sense that something was missing from the whole account?

Sure... the best ones have so much black ink on it so when you read its like me telling you that [classified] came from [classified] and had a meeting with [classified]. Rep. John Haller (R-PA) introduces a bill that will allocate (classified) dollars over the next (classified) years to fight flesh-eating (classified).

Here is a great example of that process..

I cant imagine ever finding proof in anything the Gov releases. That does'nt subtract from how fascinating the cases are i know. It just feels like they only ever release those cases that leave more questions than answers. Or that can be interpreted many different ways. All you ever get is bias acusations. For the best part the people who look at these reports, do so looking for proof and may very well over look the obvious, as they do.

Yep that is why 99% of these UFO threads on ATS are really a waste of time. But we all keep coming back... the skeptics because they are in their comfort zone debunking yuotube fakes and the believers who hop that 'this one is the real deal'

The most worthless thing in the world is a politicians word the day after an election. All politicians, all ages and creeds.

I would bet all a professional politician thinks when faced with a disclosure question is:

"oh b*gger, its a nut job, how can I placate him without losing my credibility with the sane members of the audience?"

I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you. Or if you plan to, at least call an ambulance first.

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That video is classic.



I know what you mean about half the threads on here. Im one of the beliver camp that usualy thinks it could be the one. The elpaso lights a few days ago had me convinced at one point. Its getting to the point now where i wont believe anything unless it happens to me personaly. Half the threads bring up vids that were debunked years ago aswell. Youtube is becoming a pain in Ufology's ass.

Well at least your not deluding yourself that these cases are all UFO's. The critters are probably my favourite. I agree with you that they are probably natural to Earth we just dont understand them because thay operate in places we dont deem as it being possible to live. Its was the same with micro organisms at one point. Probaly the closest ive got to seeing an alien though.

This wont stop me searching. You never know what might turn up and you never will unless you put yourself out there.

Peace.

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They were free for the first year, but now they cost £3.50 each... If anyone buys some, I'll trade for the 2008 and 2009 ones that I have

I've got the February and August 2010 files. You can have 'em. Near to 1.8 gig.

reply to post by Freeborn

Maybe he has been told to shut up? Maybe he hasn't been allowed to know? Or, maybe, just maybe, there's nothing to disclose?

Could be all three.

Lol, if Cameron release info and it says that UFO are all natural, with explication, he is lying.

If Cameron release info and says that UFO are extraterrestrial he is lying to because is a plan to create a NWO.

So, it doesnt matter what he says, when people love conspiracies, everything is going to be a lie.

When he got into power, he must have found that there were no secret dossier on UFOs. In fact , as most people know there was release of UFO information by the ministry of Defense, back in 2008 and more recently in 2010.

www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/ufos
news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/7398108.stm

Probably that is all they have.

I understand what you are saying but when Nick Pope joined the MOD in a UFO capacity he was a sceptic and now he is a believer because of the files he has seen, he has also said he has seen images, videos that haven't been released because they involve our national security. I think there are files to be released but the reason i started this thread is because nick pope has recently told us that the UFO scheme over here is getting scrapped to save money and most of the UFO files burnt to save arguments about releasing files so we have to act quickly. I know its a long shot but surely its worth a try?

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Nick pope has lost all credability for me.

There was a newspaper article in the mail i believe, that supposedly showed a black disc being chased by two jet fighters. You could tell instantly that it was fake. It looked like someone had removed pixels from the image to create a basic disc shape. Not even photo shop standard. The video was no better. It showed the object, which remained stationary. Then cut off to picture two jets in flight. To make it look like they were chasing it.

Article and video.

Who should come out defending it, but non other than nick pope. Im sure he's a government shill or something. Trying to mingle among us and make us all look stupid.

Well thats just my oppinion.

I very much doubt Cameron will disclose anything to us. He's just a right wing stooge.