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Originally posted by GeminiSky
Originally posted by The Shrike
reply to post by GeminiSky
And none of what you posted is the truth because you did not experience it; you're just passing along hearsay.
First off who died and made you an unquestionable authority on alien abductions? You say I did not experience it....where did you get that idea exactly? Off to a bad start basing an argument on your own assumptions:dn
Anyone with a questioning mind that requires evidence in support of claims is an authority on "alien abductions".: You don't seem, to me, to have a questioning mind.
Secondly, witness testimony is valid in a court of law and has historically put people away to jail and/or sentenced them to death. And yep im just passing along what I though was a great article.
Not on flimsy evidence such as hearsay. I wouldn't claim your article to be "great".
You cannot be an advocate for a cause that has nothing to support it.
Really? So things like physical evidence of injuries, implants, and even rape coupled with memories of the event does not qualify as support?
Evidence of injuries? You jest. All humans have evidence of injuries, it goes with the territory of having a body. Implants? You can't be serious. Rape? Report it; prove it; Memories? People can be made to imagine even by amateur hypnotists!
People have been making up stories since time immemorial and the more absurd, the faster they're accepted as real. Since there isn't one iota of irrefutable evidence for the reality of these improbable and alleged abductions then it only stands to reason that they are made up and some of the tellers of these tales believe them to be real but they are really subjective.
So this is your logic? Am I glad you dont run the planet! No irrefutable evidence automatically means that the event is made up? So based on your logic, other things that have no irrefutable evidence are all made up stories and never happened?
Logic based on the absence of evidence. No evidence? Then claims are questionable. No irrefutable evidence means that you don't have a case.
Things such as... *All UFO and USO sightings and encounters.
Some UFOs sightings are real. USO sightings are still being questioned. Encounters? Show me one REAL encounter. Somebody saying so doesn't make it so.
*All cryptozoological sightings such as big foot and the loch ness monster.
There is still no credible evidence for the subjects you name.
*All ghost/paranormal/poltergeist/demonic events
There is still no credible evidence for the subjects you name.
*God and the events described in the bible.
DEFINITELY no credible evidence for the subjects you name.
*And anything else that people believe occurred but have no irrefutable evidence for.
By George, he's got it!quote]
All never happened and are simply stories made up by people who often had nothing to gain and come from all walks of life? Duuude seriously you have to open up and not be so closed-minded. Try to contribute instead of being a blind skeptic....I agree there's always a chance of hoaxes and fakes but by posting dreck like this you arent helping anyone prove it one way or the other!
Your problem is that you are an unquestioning individual, fodder for cults/religion. Skepticism has its rewards. We don't get b.s.'ed! It seems to me that my questioning is not hurting anyone but your posting the dreck YOU are doing the harm for if there's one thing on ATS that will be affected negatively by your post are the gullible believers who thrive on this crap.
--GeminiSky
I sometimes read of such cases in the literature of the subject, and I have a few such in my own cases. In the case of "Bridget" (Indiana) two persons recalled a particular incident when a whole crowd of people were seen by them, standing like zombies near a fish-shaped UFO. An hour and a half of time was lost, and then at the end of the event they both saw the same crowd of people dispersing back to their homes on a near-by street. In my subsequent investigation of the case and of the area, I was totally unable to find a single soul in that area who remembered that anything had happened there that night!
Originally posted by GeminiSkyThats quite a viewpoint you have there; So you are basically comparing Santa Claus to the ET abduction phenomena?
Your comparison does not make sense....sure both are physical occurrences(kids getting presents, and physical traces of abductions as well as very real memories), however we are discussing the actual phenomena commonly known as ET abductions, and reports from first hand witnesses of the events.
There are numerous documented cases of physical injuries such as scars, implants, marks, bruises and other evidence to back up the proposed theory and also testimony pointing to the fact that these people have been physically removed from their homes, usually at night, transported into a vehicle and have medical procedures performed on them including implants. All to be returned home after with their memories wiped clean.
Do you have any physical traces of Santa sliding down the chimney? didn't think so;
By making such a dismissive comparison, you are spitting into the face of millions of abductees for whom this is a morbid reality day in and day out. They are not just "stories", they are memories of real physical events (in this or another dimension), with real physical and psychological traces.
Originally posted by GeminiSky
reply to post by of the Ether
Very interesting story, I can only imagine what it all feels like....thank you for coming forward and sharing.
---GeminiSky
Originally posted by of the Ether
Reply to post by ENGLISH BOB
Thank you English Bob! What do you think they are after?
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It would seem a lot of people from Indiana get abducted. All of these reports including mass abductions all happening in places in Indiana. Maybe the aliens are working with the slower more unevolved parts of our species to bring them up to speed.
JK
I quoted that paragraph because it is just out there. Fat asian aliens in black who drive Lincoln Continentals that disappear?
Originally posted by Nicorette
Originally posted by GeminiSky... Based on the accounts above, this is a very REAL phenomena with a physical and possibly inter-dimensional presence...
Every Christmas morning, millions of children around the world wake up to find presents under their Christmas tree. Talk to them, their accounts will say that Santa Claus gave them these presents. Based on their accounts, is Santa Claus a very REAL phenomena with a physical and possibly interdimensional presence?
People tell stories, so the stories somehow must be true? This is a fallacious argument.
"These stories are so strange, nobody could make them up!" Nonsense, read dozens of science fiction stories more original and creative than these repetitive tales.
Originally posted by Nicorette
Originally posted by GeminiSkyThats quite a viewpoint you have there; So you are basically comparing Santa Claus to the ET abduction phenomena?
My point was, let me reiterate as plainly as possible, that vast volumes of unreliable witness testimony can be unreliable:
Originally posted by GeminiSky
reply to post by Unknown Soldier
Thank you very much!! I always like when people enjoy my threads (yes even the trolls)
What specific experiences have you had?? Would love to read about them!
--GeminiSky