Was Jimmy Carter a Contradiction President?

I believe Jimmy Carter was to Christian as well him being a Liberal. Seems that Democrats can be Christian, It's just that Jimmy Carter seemed to have Conservative religious views and supported Liberal politics.

Jimmy Carter was the last US president to truly have morals and understand the plight of the average joe. This doesn't mean his policies were great but he was willing to tell you how it is whether that made him popular or not. He was known for his malaise speech which warned Americans about consumption and greed but they said it depressed the country and people didn't want someone in office who would make them depressed. They would just rather someone lie to them and make them feel a false sense of comfort.

Like Carter's policies or hate them, he was one hell of a good man.

reply to post by Misoir


More on that speech! I believe he wanted people to preserve energy. Which an oil company was raising it's prices and President Carter couldn't get around them. The same with Gerald Ford.

Obama claims to be a Christian as well... Liberals bitch about the Christian religion and harp on the separation of church and state, yet they all join in Christian prayers before every session of congress and most regularly attend church, hell they have their own exclusive Chaplin.... I suppose they need to beg for absolution and repent every day?

Ideologically there is very little difference between Obama and Carter, a quick look at Carter's record will prove that, in fact some could argue that it was worse with Carter, and yet Americans forgot the lessons learned from those times when again the nation was pulled to the far left and advanced the progressive/socialist agendas, which caused deep recession, and unemployment near 22%.

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I believe in separation of Church and state. As well any religious temple. Both Presidents are Christians.President Carter was even called Deccan.

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People were ALREADY depressed under Carter - Stagflation, High unemployment, The Iran hostage situation with no end in site etc etc etc.

Carter has been a great citizen since he left office but was a lousy Preisdent. I lived through that era I know it first hand not from a books perspective.

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Actually Obama is closest to Harry Truman just check out my new thread.

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reply to post by SLAYER69


He, as a man, was good even throughout his presidency. That doesn't mean his policies were good or his PR.

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You guys are both wrong. Herbert Hoover.
Link to source

It’s interesting to note that in Barack Obama’s current handling of the Recession, he is more like Hoover than Roosevelt including counting on banks to increase loans (which they were hesitant to do for both Hoover and Obama) and running deficit spending (it was campaigning against deficit spending that helped Roosevelt win the presidency in 1932).

Hoover buster is not Obama

How many people remember the night Pres. Carter was on every major T.V. network. to speak to the American people. People were speculating that he was going to disclose UFO's or information on Kennedy's assassination.
But the broadcast lost audio from the Pres. location. and never got it back.

Originally posted by SLAYER69
Carter has been a great citizen since he left office but was a lousy Preisdent. I lived through that era I know it first hand not from a books perspective.

I completely concur. He was a genuinely good guy, which makes for a profoundly bad politician. His idealism and moral fortitude made him unable to to deal with playing by the street-ball rules that Congress plays by daily. He would negotiate and compromise until his policies no longer represented what was originally intended. Not getting re-elected to a second term was probably the best thing that could have happened to him. I can think of no other politician who has been so active and done so much for their country (and for humanity) after leaving office than former POTUS Jimmy Carter. I might have mocked him while he was POTUS, but after his presidency I can think of no other person more deserving of the Nobel Peace Prize...and honestly, unless he has some well-kept skeleton in his closet (other than Billy), he's probably already on the fast-track for sainthood.

Seriously, even Washington and Lincoln had their dark-sides, and even Jefferson and Teddy Roosevelt had been known to be complete jerks from time to time, but Carter turned out to be a genuinely decent human being who really was everything he said he was.

I'm not even above admitting that although I'm none too fond of Christianity personally yet if there were more Christians like Carter who actually walked the talk while tempering their zeal with Humanism I might actually have been more receptive to walking that path myself.

One could shoot holes into his presidency all day long, but Carter turned out to be a good guy after all was said and done and his failures as president were because he truly was perhaps too decent a human being for Washington.

No president is going to say he's not a Christian.

In fact no one would get near the presidency if he did not declare themselves a Christian.

Such is the American mentality.

Why do you think a Christian can't be liberal? I don't believe it says anything in the Bible about having to support conservative politics, in fact politics at all. Doesn't the Bible teach to not be concerned with Earthly dealings?

I don't think a true Christian would want to be president. Something about again Earthly matters and devoting your life to Christ as apposed to building a career and power. How is any of that going to get you into heaven?
No one gets that kind of power without stepping on people on the way up, it's just simply too aggressively competitive not to.

Do not lay up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust destroy, and where thieves break in and steal. But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust destroys, and where thieves do not break in or steal; for where your treasure is, there will your heart be also. Matthew 6:19-21

I'm not a Christian myself but I can see the hypocrisy, and the reasons behind it.

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Jimmy Carter was our first and only Evangelical president. But Jimmy Carter wasn't a contradiction, he was just the first Democratic president to thrive after the southern-realignment that Nixon had facilitated. Clinton followed with the same example.

Originally posted by fraterormus
One could shoot holes into his presidency all day long, but Carter turned out to be a good guy after all was said and done and his failures as president were because he truly was perhaps too decent a human being for Washington.

Reagan came in like a gang buster. Carter simply could not compete. The country after 4 years of Carter needed a change. Reagan after 4 years in office won relection on a simple campaign slogan. "Are you better off now than you were 4 years ago?" Meanwhile back 4 years previously had Carter asked that question people would have almost strung him up.

I agree Carter since leaving office proved to be a great humanatarian etc still a lousy politician.