Home Secretary warns public to remain vigilant in the face of a 'highly likely' terrorist attack

Originally posted by mamabeth
reply to post by EnactedEgoTrip

 

I understand how you feel,please believe me.
Your post could be seen as a possible threat
to that lady.

Lady is the wrong word to use. She's a fear mongering witch and she needs to be put in her place.

reply to post by Korg Trinity

I can tell you this though; internal affairs in the UK do indeed have the rights to investigate any of the cabinet ministers even the Prime Minister himself.

Sorry about the Country but still, if this was true I'd think Blaire and a few others would currently be residing in The Old Baily..

reply to post by captiva


This would be comedy gold if it wasnt so blasted threatening. What the government dont seem to realise is this:

The most likely places to be attacked by bombers and heavily armed nutcases, are inner city areas like London, Birmingham,Manchester, Liverpool, and places of similar size and significance. These are also the places where you are most likely to be shot to death by local yobs , gangsters, muggers and sociopathic loners with a gun and no moral fibre. What I am saying is that the people living in these areas couldnt possibly be MORE vigilant than they already have to be, to survive in that environment of constant , invisible threat.
The people of these cities already KNOW that danger lurks around every corner, they already know that the next person they pass on the street could be the one that kills them. However, if they allow that fear , that vigilance to rule thier lives, then the fear wins, and attacks or not, we, the British people will have lost.
Surely it is important to pay attention to ones surroundings, especialy when there is a threat of full scale attack by shadowy faceless minions of a dangerous terror group, but changing patterns of behaviour to avoid that danger would have the entire population of our greatest cities locked in thier homes , businesses refusing to open till the ringleaders are rounded up, and generaly avoiding real life . This would be as much of a victory for the terrorist as would a high body count and infrastructural devastation.
The only way to continue therefore, is for the British public to take this in thier stride, and go out and do thier business regardless of the fire and the bullets and the bombs and the blood that may come thier way. Lets face it, Britain has suffered worse than these terrorists are capable of visiting upon us, and came back stronger than ever. Entire cities aflame from German bombs, towns emptied of men, the corpses of whom ended up carpeting large swathes of Europe, whole families vapourised in thier homes up and down the length of the nation.... Theres no terror campaign that could do that , or anything like it, and therefore we will survive, we will prosper regardless. We cannot be silenced, or made to truely fear this threat, because Britain has bounced back from worse, and always will. Until they find away to kill every last one of us, Britain will be immortal.

reply to post by Korg Trinity


In a small way i see your point but if you look back since 911 and 7/7 there just pushing more crap on us here in UK cameras everywhere are they cutting crime down NO

CCTV boom has failed to slash crime, say police
www.guardian.co.uk...

But if they keep this up with the things they want to do soon there will be check points everywhere all they need is more people like you then no problem nazi germany here we come

I know what your thinking this is not about check points but remember if they do this.
Every phone call, email or website visit 'to be monitored'
www.telegraph.co.uk...
How can you call this freedom you can't impossible seems to me just like that film 1984.


Do you think its about making us safe from terrorists not me.
Its more like the goverment making themself's safe from the people they are about to rob spending review this week

Thanks

Originally posted by TrueBrit
reply to post by captiva

 

This would be comedy gold if it wasn’t so blasted threatening. What the government dont seem to realise is this:

The most likely places to be attacked by bombers and heavily armed nutcases, are inner city areas like London, Birmingham,Manchester, Liverpool, and places of similar size and significance.

Yep, however as has been proven time and again the instigators of such atrocities are rarely from the areas that are planned for attack.. Home-grown or sleeper cells could be spread out across a whole country, only coming together at the last moments of an attempt.

In most cases there is a command centre for operations rather than a singular home-grown nutjob. Cut off the head and you kill the body....

Korg.

It is pretty easy to warn of an attack if you are the one that is going to attack. Self fulfilling prophecy anyone? Anything to get control of what the government wants and we have already seen far too much of the ruthless (and blatently illegal in most cases) things they will do to get it.

She just has to say what she is told to, so blaming some news lady is kinda pointless. We know the likely end result so we can prepare accordingly.

Fear only works when you let it.

reply to post by Korg Trinity


I quite agree, that is certainly the way that these things must be solved. But my problem with the government warning is that on the day of a supposed attack, vigilance in the areas to be attacked is already present. The warning needs to be targeted towards sub urban residents, rather than being a blanket warning. Those who would be affected by any possible attack are already alert due to thier geographic proximity to insane cultural breakdown and chaos, so the only people who need a wake up call are those outside the area of effect, who might be neighboring suspects, live in the same block, on the same road.
Again, the warning isnt directed correctly, and those outside these areas will have a general veiw that runs very much to " Im alright Jack, sod the rest". We have a Conservative in the prime ministers seat at the moment, so that runs with the territory.

reply to post by captiva


Program already exists:

en.wikipedia.org...(signals_intelligence)

news.bbc.co.uk...

duncan.gn.apc.org...

Originally posted by Death_Kron
reply to post by captiva

 

Program already exists:

en.wikipedia.org...(signals_intelligence)

news.bbc.co.uk...

duncan.gn.apc.org...

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Quite

If ever there was a conversation killer that was it

Nice one

Korg.

reply to post by Korg Trinity


Haha, you know me buddy although I will admit I'm not feeling that conversational today

Yes the programme already exists and yes many know that. Today is just a bit diffirent in that the new proposal will be aired in parliament by the same people who would not admit to its uses beforehand.

The thread deals with the obvious manipulation of the masses using the "terrorist" card to garner interest and acceptance of their perceived right to watch, listen and judge our every move.

The fact that it exists in silence does not take away from the seriousness of what they are trying to do in making it "there for all to see" policy.

I dont accept anyone telling me whats best for me.

respects

Crazy enough I just heard this on the news at lunch here in Sicily.
I was pretty amazed.
I can't remember ever hearing a 'imminent attack' warning here before.
Hmmmm. I wonder what kind of diversion it will be this time?
I surely hope that's all it is.

peace

reply to post by captiva


Well I've made my thoughts on the matter clear before on ATS, in my opinion this "justification" about going public with regards to the existence of Echelon is simply because the Government have realised that it can't be kept hidden in the shadows any longer.

I'll admit that the general public may be shocked about such a system being in place but the majority of people on this site and those that share similiar interests have known about Echelon for a long time now, personally I've been aware about it for at least the last ten years...

That's why I'm not really shocked by this story, I read it in the paper this morning and barely blinked; the Government aren't telling us about some new super duper surveillance system they have recently invented, actually they are describing a system that has been in place for years and it's cover has been blown.

Originally posted by RelentlessLurker
i dont know which is more sad,

them outright telling you they will take your freedoms, or you giving them up so willingly.

Gee I wonder why they're doing this, from ex militia connected people, I've heard the need for a revolution.. The leaders keep pushing and pushing. Why? Because they're trying to dump as much karma as they can on us and then use HAARP to bring in the Harvest.

So how do we not give them up, because it has to be done peacefully, with good negotiations, without any form of violence or reactiveness.

You see, what is very sad is what they're doing, not the people. The people are being manipulated and a huge trap set for them with a lot of portals open and negatives get the spoils. They've sold out humanity. So how do you keep on the right path and doing everything with unconditional love and negotiations, get rid of them?

Originally posted by Unity_99

Originally posted by RelentlessLurker
i dont know which is more sad,

them outright telling you they will take your freedoms, or you giving them up so willingly.

Gee I wonder why they're doing this, from ex militia connected people, I've heard the need for a revolution.. The leaders keep pushing and pushing. Why? Because they're trying to dump as much karma as they can on us and then use HAARP to bring in the Harvest.

So how do we not give them up, because it has to be done peacefully, with good negotiations, without any form of violence or reactiveness.

You see, what is very sad is what they're doing, not the people. The people are being manipulated and a huge trap set for them with a lot of portals open and negatives get the spoils. They've sold out humanity. So how do you keep on the right path and doing everything with unconditional love and negotiations, get rid of them?

Huh??

let me say that again.... Huh???

What are you on about???

Think you may have replied to the wrong thread or something...

Korg.

On a UK radio phone in today, they apparently got a lot of calls from people who believe that this is just so much fear mongering, in order to justify tighter controls.
I am seeing a greater cynicism in the great British public. And personally I don't know anyone who takes notice of these so called security alerts. If I drive into Manchester today, I am far more likely to come to grief on our roads than die by terrorist hands. And that's a fact..
But as for those who perennially come out with that old chestnut - 'if you've nothing to hide you've nothing to fear...'. I am guessing they scored top marks in their Naivety Class.
Sheesh...

Originally posted by starchild10
On a UK radio phone in today, they apparently got a lot of calls from people who believe that this is just so much fear mongering, in order to justify tighter controls.
I am seeing a greater cynicism in the great British public. And personally I don't know anyone who takes notice of these so called security alerts. If I drive into Manchester today, I am far more likely to come to grief on our roads than die by terrorist hands. And that's a fact..
But as for those who perennially come out with that old chestnut - 'if you've nothing to hide you've nothing to fear...'. I am wondering if they scored top marks in their Naivety Class?
Sheesh...

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I wouldn't say it's in order to justify tighter controls, I'd say it was to justify the tighter controls that are already in place and have been for years!

Unfortunately, and I'm a proud Englishman, this country is in ruins. I find myself saying it time and time again on here but it's the sad truth...

Originally posted by Death_Kron

Originally posted by starchild10

I wouldn't say it's in order to justify tighter controls, I'd say it was to justify the tighter controls that are already in place and have been for years!

Unfortunately, and I'm a proud Englishman, this country is in ruins. I find myself saying it time and time again on here but it's the sad truth...

Controls that they keep on ratcheting up. Agree about the 'in ruins'. But I'm wondering where would be a better alternative?

edit on 18-10-2010 by starchild10 because: (no reason given)

reply to post by starchild10


It's just political ticks in boxes if you ask me or the media getting hold of information about systems that have been in place for years, it was bound to be made public knowledge eventually. Now that it's out in the open the Government have to justify it's existence and the "terrorist threat" serves that purpose...

I'm not sure I'd move out of the UK but that sure doesn't mean I have to agree on how it's being run.

The current Home Secretary is an evil paranoid witch who receives all her 'Facts' from the entrails of badgers, tealeaves and the Daily Mail, there is no terror threat to the UK