MJ-12 Exposing the military Cover up...Ok vid if interested in this subject.

Well today I watch this vid about MJ-12. It was fairly interesting, whether true or not. I would think a few on ATS would like it. Enjoy guys.

What does the United States government truly know about UFOs and alien visitors on Earth? Evidence exists today that some military officials may know more than we realize. One example is the MJ-12 documents which are signed by United States presidential order and describe strict official protocols and procedures on how military personal are to handle and investigate real alien and UFO encounters. After years of painstaking research many UFO researchers believe the MJ-12 documents are authentic and prove that the Earth has been visited by aliens from another world. Includes the shocking facts behind this amazing story and a fascinating series of spellbinding interviews with researchers and the best known, most credible UFO authorities in the world today.

hi mr red, as i posted in an earlier mj 12 thread, its hard to take the documents seriously because edgar fouche openly admits to re typing them and filling in the blanks with whatever he saw fit and we cant see the supposed originals, he also uses ray santillis known fake "alien autopsy" video as corroborating evidence to prove authenticity, heres a vid, make of it what you will.



thanks

rich

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Yeah I saw the vid you posted.

I just think that some people find this interesting. The Vid i posted is fairly interesting though.

Cheers

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That's a different set of MJ-12 documents RICH, but like you said it's hard to take the documents seriously when so many of them have been proven fakes.

Thanks for vid OP, havent seen that one before.

Aahh the MJ-12 docs.... i remember printing out those docs that have bogus written across them back when i was about 16 (2000) and even then i still believed the content.

Some may be hoaxed to create confusion but some are hard to debunk and fit in with events. As in the clip, there were many events and links between people not know till well afer the docs were released.

I also read that MJ-12 was firest started or believed to have been started as a branch of the Army and then seperated from it.
Going through Executive orders i found an interesting link, in 1942 there is an order that creates a ''specialist branch of the Army corps''

Executive Order 9078
Establishing the Army Specialist Corps

•Signed: February 26, 1942
•Federal Register page and date: 7 FR 1607, March 3, 1942

www.archives.gov...

That is one of many orders that may or may not have anything to do with UFO etc but thought it may have been interesting.

Here is thread i started covering Auroa, TX and some other cases, the thread is still unfinished but i havent had alot of time lately to get to it.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

There is also something i felt was interesting:

Please note the final paragraph in which George C Marshall talks about ongoing plans / efforts etc but he mentiones 1897 as almost a starting point when talking about looking at sightings onwards from 1897, a very strabge date to start from, why would he have picked that date? - Auroa TX was a big date for UFO study if indeed that case was true. Some people will say that case is a hoax, well before you do please offer your research and proof that shows it.

Here is the document:

www.majesticdocuments.com...

Thanks again for Clip

Here's some things about the majestic documents though:

1) They are from a variety of different sources, not just one, so you can't simply dismiss all as fraudulent because one (or more) are determined as such. You cannot claim to be objective if you lump all of the documents together and assign a label. Some documents have obvious earmarks of being fraudulent, others seem legitimate (and at least one has even been shown to be in official archives, though of a less sensational matter).

2) You have to keep in mind that this was all pre-Internet stuff. The consistent timeline of events, people involved, etc. represents a pretty major research project if it was falsified, and it seems strange that such a project would have been undertaken by numerous hoax authors, for seemingly no return on that investment.

3) The overall story that emerges is remarkably consistent for so many different sources, especially if hoaxed.

4) The website majesticdocuments.com does have some excellent info on the authenticity determination methods that were used to rate the various documents, and folks can see for themselves what evidence supports or shoots down a particular document.

Without reading through all the docs (or repeating my existing thread on the HIstory of MJ-12), here's the quick short story that emerges. Whether you believe it or not, is of course up to the individual, but it's interesting, that's for sure.

The story goes:

In '42, around the time of the Battle of LA incident, a small task force is put together to examine the issue of alien visitation and study it. The group undergoes a few different name changes from "The Working Group" to the IPL, etc. before being called MAJIC (Military Assessment Joint Intelligence Committee). The group's members change a little from the starting group, but many of the key players are senior intelligence officers and leading scientists (just the kind of group you'd want for such a thing). The Roswell recovery (according to the docs) is the major catalyst event that really drives the creation (and funding) of the group.

There are other minor details (such as issues of JFK and assassinations, etc.), but most of the more sensational items are in the doc/s that have the least amount of confidence in being authentic. In addition, doesn't seem the sort of things you'd discuss in a document, no matter how secretive.

Still though, there are many docs that do ring more true, and reinforce the continuous storyline.

Who knows?

I watched the documentary last night (Do you believe in majic? by Paul Kimball), it was alright, a little biased in my opinion though. For example there's no mention of the fakes. Friedman didn't talk about the "Directive to General Twining by President Truman, 9 July 1947" actually being a modified copy of a letter from Harry Truman to Albert Wedemeyer. An update to the film would be nice.