OxyContin Neurontin and Motrin Oh my! MATURE CONTENT!!!

reply to post by NeverApologize


Frankly, I'd get rid of the right-winger friends. I use to be a huge republican, voted for bush jr the first time, everything was gitterdun! f*ck that...I was ignorant. I was incredibly painfully ignorant. I did a complete 180 and read about what was really going on and wound up losing them all because they got mad when I showed them news sources that later became verifiable, whereas their pov came from regurgitating what they heard from the mainstream media which I easily proved wrong because their logic was so twisted. after wards my life totally changed for the better. It wasn't easy. In fact, all that life change made me wonder if I was going crazy, but after a lot of going back and forth, over the long run, my life did chage for the better. I got married to a wonderful person and just had a healthy baby.

OxyContin 20mg (2-4 per day), Neurontin 300mg (3 per day), Motrin 600mg (3 per day)

You should be off the Oxycontin by now it good for acute pain but bad for long term use.
They should have started cutting you down after two to three weeks after the surgery.
Then if you still needed meds for non neurological pain they should have started you on vicodin or another pain med like tramadol

600mg Motrin is a little high for inflammation control 200mg would work just as good its not being used for pain as the Oxycontin would make it imposable for you to tell the Motrin was even working for pain.

Neurontin is a very good pain med for neurological pain as its non habit forming and very low risk for long term use.

I have been taking 3x300mg neurontin for years for neurosarcoidosis and fibromyalgia pain.
I could have got a narcotic pain med but i stood a chance of having a change of doctors and having one suddenly decide i did not need to be taking a narcotic for pain and refuse to give me anything.

reply to post by NeverApologize


I can tell you that Neurontin will make u brain dead. My ex-boss is on it, couldn't work with her any more because she is a complete idiot. It destroys nerves, and since your whole brain is full of nerves, you'll slowly lose cognitive abilities.

Those are pretty heavy doses of pain meds my friend, I should know - I've been taking 150 oxycodone + 240 mg. morphine sulphate along with 1500 mg neurontin. I have no experience with Motrin.
You are right to be concerned. The addiction is bad enough as I wake up often during the night with cravings and have to wait til morning or I get ahead on medications.
I have had to fight with the doctors, pharmacists and family over it. I was wasting away until I got up to that level of pain meds.
Running out is the worst feeling ever as I literally felt I was going to die. Running out hasn;t been my fault, there were times when NO pharmacy had my prescription, and other times when the Pharmacist didn;t want to accept the script for various reasons - doctor put a sticker over the address, dr. changed something and failed to initial it, dr. wrote the wrong date etc.
ALWAYS save a few back for just such an emergency. The Pharmacy can't always get in touch with the doctors (weekends, holidays, doctor is on vacation, etc).
I'm not aware of any long - term bad effects from the drugs themselves, it's the dependency that's a bitch to deal with.
I have to run to my grandson's soccer game right now but I'll check back this afternoon. There's more to tell you.
Know that you have my utmost sympathies. People think we live in some dreamy fun land which as we both know is a crock of $&*!
Regards, ATA

reply to post by NeverApologize
Can I ask why they put you on neurontin??

Sorry to hear about your problem. I've been kicked there a few times and I can't imagine feeling like that every day. Being hooked on pills is worse. I've been in pain the last seven years due to an injury from working in a factory, plus damage done by a doctor. I usually try to tough it out because I don't want to be on pills. Also, I read that ibuprofen can damage your liver and cause other damage. I saw on another post on this thread where somebody recommended cannabis. I use that for pain when it gets too bad. It really does help. I feel that it's a shame that it's illegal. Whatever you try, good luck to you.

I agree that Oxycotin and neurotin should be discontinued! have your doc switch you to Tylenol #4. That will eliminate the IBU and Oxycotin. Stay on it for a month or 2 until the body detox's from the Oxy. Its easier to withdraw from codeine than from oxycotin. then you can reduce to tylenol #3 or just split the #4 in half. There is also a really cool clinic in TJ Mexico that does Iboga treatments to help with opiate addictions. Plan on staying for 10 days. You can use high dose GABA at the vitamin store to get off the neurontin. start off at 500mg and see if this helps with the anxieties/withdrawl and some types of neuropathies. I've worked integrative/alternative pharmacy now for over 16 years and have alot of suggestions/ideas up my sleeve.

I would say to get off the Motrin, My doctor prescribed it for my back pain for close to 2 years, and I now have liver damage due to taking it. It takes a long time to get back to your best health again after such damage has been done, so my advice would be to get off it.

reply to post by NeverApologize


Hey there partner!

Lemme start by saying when i was about 8 yrs old i was diagnosed with a disease that stopped the blood flow through my hip which caused me to develop a little limp and was extremely painful. I had to receive two separate surgery's to correct the problem and then i had to wear casts that covered both of my legs completely from ankle to hip while they were spread out about 3 feet. and i had to wear them for 6 weeks and then get them off for a week in which i had to relearn to walk until i was put into them again two more times :X it was terrible being that i was the kind of kid that was always out side playing sports and riding BMX bikes. Then when i was about 16 i had to have jaw surgery to correct a minor overbite after i had braces for about 5 years to get my teeth perfect. they sawed my chin off and cut my lower jaw completely through in two places repositioned them and then reattached them with titanium plates. The doctor botched the first surgery and twisted a wire the wrong way and it would cause my jaw to randomly pop and grind wow the pain was unbearable to the point where i had to go in and have it taken care of. Growing up and watching an uncle abuse narcotics like Oxycotin, vikadin, morphine patches and whatever else he could get his hands on i always knew the dangers inherent with taking those kinds of drugs for the pain. I was prescribed Liquid vikadin after my jaw surgery for the pain and was told to take a swig whenever i felt pain.. and i did until i noticed that i was starting to get dependent on it thats when i just stopped. I just took the pain because id rather be in a bit of pain then to mask the problem and create more problems down the road. So when i was old enough (I live in California) i went down and applied for a medical marijuana license and explained to the doctor that i did not want to take narcotics for pain as they are addictive and cause nothing but more problems. I can say with 100% honesty that it is so much better then narcotics.. I understand the stereotype that marijuana has but it has so many benefits with little or no PROVEN side effects. Do this go to a couple doctors and ask them if they have ever heard of someone overdosing on pot or if they have ever heard of lung cancer linked to the use or pot.. ask questions about it and you would be surprised at the answers you might get.

ok so how does a person get off of oxys who cant seem to wean themselves off of them? i have a friend that im concerned about that does these things and have been doing them for years but wants to get off of them...but he says he cant because he's been doing them for so long and is so hooked on them....he says he trys to slowly get off of them but never can..he always gets down to the last few and then its too late....he does not get them from a doc but from others that gets them scripted...he does have pain but doesnt have insurance to get them hence the reason to get them from others...he seems to have lost all hope of getting off of these things but he has another little problem...he's running out of money to get them....i think he's spent all of his savings just to get these things...pretty sad actually but whats the answer? when he runs out of money i just hope he doesnt run into bigger problems when he has to quit cold turkey...the physical and mental things he will have to go thru might not be irriversable...is it possible to quit cold turkey when taking a ton of these things daily for years without any sort of harm?

Oxycotin is the worst. It's called redneck herion here where I live. As far as being hooked on them, stay away from suboxone as an addiction treatment. It really works to stop the withdrawls but what the dr didn't tell me was that suboxone has a long half life so even though the withdrawls from suboxone are milder, they can last weeks to months.There are even people that will get withdrawl symptons years later.

Originally posted by Funkydung
..is it possible to quit cold turkey when taking a ton of these things daily for years without any sort of harm?

edit on 16-10-2010 by Funkydung because: (no reason given)

Absolutely not. The only way is to taper down gradually as the shock to your system is horrendous. After being on heavy doses it would take 3-6 months to get off them without making the person sick.
On a personal note I ran out once and honestly was ready to kill myself rather than endure how ill I felt. Imagine the worst flu you've ever had and mulitply that by 10X.
The effects of withdrawl are just as much physical as psychological. It isn't something most people can just "tough out" on their own. They should be under close supervision.

As for your friend if he has legitimate pain issues it would cheaper to see a pain specialist, pay the $200 for the visit and another $300 or so for the pills. What he buys on the street have to cost at least $20 a pop, perhaps $50. Multiply that by 3 or 4 times a day X 30 days per month.
Legal is cheaper.

There is a drug called clonidine that helps with withdrawl symptoms, he needs to ask the doc for it.

Never,

Sent you a PM. I was hit in Afghanistan in October 2001 (not too far from where our member Airspoon was hit actually). Multiple back surgeries along with dozens of other painful as hell painful procedures. I will echo what some others have already stated by saying that it is best to discuss matters with your doc before following any advice from anyone in a public forum ;-) I am going on 10 years in pain management and could probably shed some light/concerns on any concerns you may have regarding your meds regiment as I have been on THEM ALL and have experienced many of the same stereotypes/scrutiny as you have I am sure. It is very unfortunate in that those many who abuse these meds (i.e. those who do not need them to live basically) mess things up for those of us that depend on them to live somewhat of a pain free life. Especially in that there have been MANY studies done that show that those in actual chronic pain were MUCH MUCH LESS LIKELY to abuse their meds due to the ungodly amount of pain that results if they are allowed to run out early. Nonetheless those of us that depend on them still become grouped up with everyone else unfortunately :-/

Anyways shot you a PM in the event you have any questions/concerns as I recommend that you use caution when discussing mesd of this nature in ANY public setting. Take care and good luck.

NT

Just my 2 cents, I think everyone can agree with the OP that Pharma drugs = BAD. They dont cure anything they only mask symptoms and cause other worse things. Thats why certain drugs have to be prescribed together, one to help the symptoms, and one to counter-act the side effects of the first one. I dont claim to have the answers but what has worked for my family and a lot of other people I know is muscle testing (or kinesiology) Its usually done by a Chiropractor. Im just posting this for you to look into. What I like about it is it actually tries to find the source of what is going on with your body and treat it naturally,

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my friend, you have my sympathy.

pain in that 'area' is almost undescribable.

thankfully, i have only seen it happen really badly to one person, who got kicked very, very hard square on in the jewels - he fell immobile to the floor, open mouthed and the pain was so intense he just made a rasping breathing sound for about ten minutes, and had to be carried away. it was shocking

why nature left that area so vulnerable is something i cannot understand

get well soon mate - i think every man here on ats realises that pain down there can be a living hell

i take 1800mgs of neurontin, 200mgs tramadol,60mgs cymbalta,20mgs remeron,200 mgs vistoril.
smoke alot of medicine, drink heavily. and my life is defined by pain.
when i hit 50- shingles, more than a year of that , from left ear down the arm. then the postherpetic nerve damage.
then the bundle of nerves in the prostate, pissing clots of blood the size of a lucky strike. hernia operation.
still spinning out of control, suicidal..
add in congenital spina bifida occulta, major head trauma, arthritis.
spasms,twitches,exhaustion,sensitive to cold ,sound,light.
havent been able to work in 4 years, this is year 2 trying to get disability.
So what i figure i have now is fibromyalgia , insular cortex is rubbed raw.
misinterpretation of signals in the anterior cinglate.(brainpan)
pains in the solar plexus,lumbar plexus, all over, non stop.
you have to steer your own treatment is what i've found.
and become your own doctor.
neurontin helps me alot, as does tramadol.
if you have chronic severe pain then you'll throw anything at it.
my brother in law is crippled from the bends-diving accident..
morphine patch, electrodes in the spine, you name it. not much help.
he's on year 10..also suicidal at times. can't blame him really.
well- lotsa luck .. live young-die fast.

Yeah, Ultram is a godsend really. It's great, because it really helps with the pain, and isn't so strong that it'll space you out--make you feel sleepy etc like others do. I am a graphics artist, and CANNOT take the brain fog, as it kills my creativity and production... And Ultram (Tramadol) is easier on the kidneys and stomach than Vicodin or 3-5 Ibuprofen at a time. It also helps you sleep better.

Been on Ultram since 1995. And let me warn you, even though Ultram is not 'officially' considered a narcotic, it sure has narcotic side effects if you stop taking it suddenly.. (within 2 days, you feel like your entire body is being shocked at a low voltage. I dunno what that term would be, but its bad. Your hearing during these 'shock' episodes sounds like what you hear under water in a pool.. that hissing sound. again.. odd. It's your nerves waking back up and the withdrawal.. (So if I have a really good day, I still have to take a dose, but I drop it down to like 1 pill for the day).

The shock feeling is like putting your tongue on a battery. You know the feeling if you ever did it. But imagine your entire body feeling that odd 'voltage' sensation. Really odd.

You guys on hard pain meds -- Do you need to take laxatives? I hear that many people have to regularly take them due to the pain meds stopping your digestive movement.. oh joy, more pills, right? I hate taking pills period. Before my pain, I wouldn't even bother taking anything for a headache even.. I try to keep thinking once day, the pain will go away.. (the nerves being pinched or damaged will suddenly unpinch..or heal.. try to keep hope alive) But it gets really bad sometimes....

reply to post by Skid Mark


I'm glad someone else agrees with me.
I too use it, sometimes for pain relief, sometimes just out of boredom.
I don't see why it is illegal. I think it should be legal but under the same restrictions as alcohol.
It's safer then smoking cigarettes!
But oh well, as long as the government doesn't find out, we're safe my friend.

Cheers
Brady

reply to post by Skid Mark


I'm glad someone else agrees with me.
I too use it, sometimes for pain relief, sometimes just out of boredom.
I don't see why it is illegal. I think it should be legal but under the same restrictions as alcohol.
It's safer then smoking cigarettes!
But oh well, as long as the government doesn't find out, we're safe my friend.

Cheers
Brady