ufo ny lights r back

so thing different with these are believable planes the ones we where seeing where doing funky stuff

Originally posted by Chadwickus
reply to post by MZYYY

 

You're also wrong about the airspace above New York being restricted....remember the plane that landed in the Hudson?

emergency landing....

Desperate times call for desperate measures...

The rules don't exactly apply when hundreds of lives are at stake...

Originally posted by MZYYY
When in FACT everyone knows there is a strict no fly zone over NYC. If anyone wants to argue with me about what we saw that night were planes. Go ahead and start a debate with me. But you better have some evidence to prove what we saw that night were planes.

No fly zone over NYC? Planes are CONSTANTLY flying over NYC at various altitudes. There are currently no NOTAMs indicating FRZ (flight restriction zones) over NYC. They do activate these during UN conferences and other VIP events. The skies over NYC are cluttered with planes. It is almost entirely Class B controlled air space. Have a look at live flight information for JFK and surrounding air ports:


flightaware.com...

You guys need to get those GIF time stamps....

This is probably the most logical way to discredit and to hide the real deal. (BEEF UP THE SKEPTIC)
Hoax Hoax, explained light, explained object hoax, hoax, dont know, airplane, helicopter balloonhoaxexplainedchineslantern (real deal) chinese lanternballoon hoax gullible hoax 4chan gullible 4 chan,nonsense hoax explained object, helicopter airplanes Hoax Hoax balloons ballons hoax/

Thats the way I would hide the real deal anyways.
Get you so discouraged and skeptical of all the sightings generally proved false that even if something like the X303 Prometheus from the Star Gate SG1 series came flying over with Tealc and General Hammond hanging out a window...sayn YEEE HAW...most would roll their eyes and say disinfo, chinese lanterns, balloons, airplanes, airtraffic stupid dots, hoax hoax

Just a chinese lantern or balloon..prob an elaborate hoax, maybe the sun and clouds are destorting a 747
while this flies over



Ahhh thats just CGI or Holograms while this flies over
www.stargate-sg1-solutions.com...

Originally posted by superluminal11
This is probably the most logical way to discredit and to hide the real deal. (BEEF UP THE SKEPTIC)
Hoax Hoax, explained light, explained object hoax, hoax, dont know, airplane, helicopter balloonhoaxexplainedchineslantern (real deal) chinese lanternballoon hoax gullible hoax 4chan gullible 4 chan,nonsense hoax explained object, helicopter airplanes Hoax Hoax balloons ballons hoax/

Thats the way I would hide the real deal anyways.
Get you so discouraged and skeptical of all the sightings generally proved false that even if something like the X303 Prometheus from the Star Gate SG1 series came flying over with Tealc and General Hammond hanging out a window...sayn YEEE HAW...most would roll their eyes and say disinfo, chinese lanterns, balloons, airplanes, airtraffic stupid dots, hoax hoax

Just a chinese lantern or balloon..prob an elaborate hoax, maybe the sun and clouds are destorting a 747
while this flies over



Ahhh thats just CGI or Holograms while this flies over
www.stargate-sg1-solutions.com...

edit on 15-10-2010 by superluminal11 because: (no reason given)

SG1

Indeed.

*raises eye brow*

omgwtfbbq? those were planes? i sooooo thought those were a series of ufo's taking off and landing over and over.

reply to post by superluminal11


No. If I saw a spaceship from a television show or movie I'd probably say "Wow, I managed to wander on to a closed set somehow" and then I'd ask for autographs.

If I were to see a real UFO or alien I would react accordingly.

But when I see a plane, helicopter, Chinese lantern, balloon, flare, or CGI fake, I also react accordingly.

It might surprise you to learn that most skeptics here aren't really skeptics at heart, nor or they disinfo agents, hired by some imaginary alphabet agency to lie to you. We are simply people who want truth and don't appreciate misleading information from either side of the argument. We do the footwork to check the hoaxes so that the man body of believers don't get caught with their proverbial pants down. And we do this all while others constantly accuse us of being unenlightened, stupid, manipulative, uninformed, blind, "sheeple" who wouldn't know a fish if we were slapped with it.

Pointing out when planes are planes is just our public service.

~Heff

Originally posted by MZYYY
I personally and many other like me such as October were watching this webcam live for a period of 3-4 hours. They appeared in the middle of the screen and flew off into the direction. Other lights would appear and hover in 1 spot for a period of 10-20 minutes and then suddenly start to move and fly off in one direction. If these were in fact planes, then how come we are not seeing them flying around as lively as we had seen that night for a period of 3-4 hours? As the video below I posted shows some of these lights were even flying over the skyscrapers in NYC. When in FACT everyone knows there is a strict no fly zone over NYC. If anyone wants to argue with me about what we saw that night were planes. Go ahead and start a debate with me. But you better have some evidence to prove what we saw that night were planes.

www.youtube.com...

edit on 15-10-2010 by MZYYY because: (no reason given)

Now I apologize, but these don't look like planes, ATSers...

reply to post by Astraios


Looks like planes in a takeoff pattern to me. I'm no expert, but that's what I interpret it as.

~Heff

Originally posted by pmckart
You guys need to get those GIF time stamps....

here is a time adjusted gif
the frames are spaced out to when the files were created when i took the screen shots



frames time gmt+12
1. 2.45.20
2.2.45.47
3.2.46.07
4.2.46.28
5.2.46.51
6.2.47.09
7.2.47.31
8.2.47.51
9.2.48.10
10.2.48.33
11.2.48.50
12.2.49.08
13.2.49.30
14.2.49.55
15.2.49.15
16.2.51.00
17.2.51.21
18.2.51.40
19.2.51.01
20.2.52.24
21.2.52.57
22.2.53.19
23.2.53.36




xploder

do you notice that the frames are some 20 to 30 seconds apart? do you also notice that the planes are all flying the same flight path? could it be possible the first plane has already left the frame in 20-30 seconds and what you see is actually the second plane which lined up behind the first plane in the previous frame? planes have 2 to 3 lights on each wing as you can see when the plane banks there are 2 bright spots separated by a dark spot in the middle.

LOL How many of you who says its just planes, "birds","bats' ? actually lives in NY? LOOOOOOOOOL

And for those who saying the cam is directly showing flight paths to airports... There arent much planes going thru that area that close to the city.. its too low for any planes to be flying.... and those objects are just too big to be planes, even with bright lights on isnt that big and bright. If they were actually planes they would be wayy higher and you'll only see a shiney dot.. and only going back and forth to the airports without going down or going up, just straight to the airport..

I live a little up north from that area.... now there's are a lot of planes passing by from very low that you think its going to hit a building of 18 floors to very very high up that its only a dot in the sky and I'm in between of all three major airports.... I have front row seats watching planes flying by ... and on that note... I saw TWO Black Helicopters today just 2 blocks down from the Hudson River and 2 blocks up from me, flying low, one behind the other going North.. thats a rare sighting... seeing two at the sametime and both being black.. there's a heli-port a little down South-West to where those objects are seen, it'll be out of that Camera view and they dont fly that low right in the middle of the city and they have markings.. these really didnt have any logo's or anything,,

There's no bats, no birds... Birds, well pigeons dont fly at night and the weather is getting colder.. and those are the only birds that be flying inland. There's no RC Planes, not in the streets, that # is done at the park and there's no park in that area,

My personal opinion and from what I have analyze from living in this current area and looking up in the sky from the street level to my building level, 16 Floors up.... These arent planes... thats for sure ... and they sure isnt any bats, birds, RC plans or any of that...
The only two things U will see up in the sky here in the city are planes/jets if any, Helicopter's, the moon and whatever name is that other bright planet that we can see... Not even the stars could be seen, Thats a rare sight on rare nights....

So please if people going to debunk this one, please make sure you live in New York, In that area, Used to live in the city and those who only knows how our NY sky activities are..

i have been silent on this subject so i could watch the same camera over a week
at different times different weather conditions
i have not seen any thing like that night
i have never said there were no planes in my footage
but what has been proven to me is this

Logical co incidence
What is it?
Logical co incidence is when two things happen at the same time
Example
I telephone someone who is trying the same thing to contact me
Result
Both people think the other person must be busy on a call
MistakeYou cannot logically discount two events happening at the same time just because it is the most simple explanation because if one in ten thousand threads hade proof of ufos debunked one or two would have been dismissed as co incidence
THAT was what we all seek as 1s or 2s
The truth for better understanding for all collectivly
xploder




if anyone sees this level of air traffic in 6 minutes over nyc better get proof because i have been watching that cam like a hawk and i dont see anything remotly like my gif

its funny to asume because planes are in the air so that helicopters arnt or vise versa