Revelations vs Disclosure

For years now, I keep hearing people ranting and raving about "Disclosure" and the Disclosure Project. That's right. You all know what I am talking about.

Please take a break from the breaking news in NYC with the uncountable UFO's appearing overhead and take a moment to consider this.

Could it be that we actually don't want to have Disclosure because that could mean the beginning of the end for us as described in the book of Revelations?

I mean, the two words essentially mean the same thing, don't they?

Just a thought!

What do you think?

How does people finding out what the Government knows about Aliens have anything to do with the book of revelations, and how does disclosure signify the end of anything. Except maybe our suspicion that were being kept in the dark.

Hmmm never thought of it like that. . .but personally, I'm not sure I would tie them together. I guess it could be, though. I wonder, what in the revelation might appear as a representation of disclosure of aliens? I mean, the book is a ton of metaphors, and it's been soooo long since I've read anything from it.

reply to post by FactFinder


Well for some of us, the book of Revelations is nonsense, so we want Disclosure either way.

What ??

What does revelations have to do with anything much less disclosure.

This is our perceived reality, here and now, reeeaaaality. What does it have to do with a fictional book ?? Why not just reference a coloring book ??

.... so if two words are slightly related that means the " events" or "ideas" are related as well ?? love the logic

The reason I ask is that the book of Revelations is, in itself, a translation into English from another language so, it could be that the book of Revelations could more literally be translated to be the book of Disclosure because "Revelations" actually means "Disclosure".

Could it be one and the same? Just wondering! Where's Phage with his analysis?

reply to post by FactFinder


Why do you need Phage?

Your the one who started the thread, therefore its your responsability to justify yourself. Try answering peoples questions instead of just saying the same thing you said originaly.

Originally posted by KrypticCriminal
How does people finding out what the Government knows about Aliens have anything to do with the book of revelations, and how does disclosure signify the end of anything. Except maybe our suspicion that were being kept in the dark.

edit on 15-10-2010 by KrypticCriminal because: (no reason given)

Great post

reply to post by FactFinder


FactFinder.....

Where's Phage with his analysis?

What's he s'posed to analyse?

Kind regards
Maybe...maybe not

reply to post by IntastellaBurst


Don't get me wrong. I am not a Bible toting Christian zealot out to change your mind about religion. I am just wondering if you see any significance in the correlation between this approximately 700 year old English translation of an ancient text.

It's just a thought I am toying with and wanted to get the opinions of others.

reply to post by FactFinder


If i looked hard enough and believed hard enough. I could probably find correlations between any book and any subject that i chose. That does'nt mean any of them would have any basis in fact. So the question should be, what correlations have you found and what facts do you base those findings?

reply to post by FactFinder



I just think they have to do with two completely different subjects.

The book of revelations isn't even about the end of days, it is a coded, cryptic message from Paul to his fellow churches. Though it would have seemed like the end of the world to them, at the time.

The references are outdated, and prolly would of had significance for the intended readers, the number 666 is translated to " Caesar Nero".

I just dont see the correlation.

I posted what I believe is a relevant question to the members of the board for opinions. My opening post is not intended to dictate to you what you should believe one way or the other.

Thanks.

reply to post by KrypticCriminal


Thank you for your feedback.

Actually, I haven't made any claims or correlations as you can see in my original post. I am simply asking you for your opinion as to whether one exists or not in your view.

I appreciate your reply and I get your point.

reply to post by FactFinder


Your question is'nt relavant. Its based on two subjects that are totaly unrelated IMO. I was hoping that maybe you had made some connections and were willing to share them for us to discuss. Instead your just pitting those who are looking for disclosure against those who believe the book of revelations means something.

Thats why your getting the response your getting. Im not saying you that you intended to do so. Just maybe have a little more meat than the fact that "Revelation" and "disclosure" could be percieved to mean the same thing.

Peace!

It is absolutely a relevant question, and thanks for posting it

I was just thinking earlier today this exact thing..

I have a feeling that uncontrollable events that are going to happen will trigger some sort of automatic disclosure without the PTB needing to go public about anything... The knowledge will come out some other uncontrollable way perhaps..

reply to post by FactFinder


Thank you for bringing this up OP, I think i know what what your getting to here, It's likley where Christ discribes his return ie: Timing, Direction from, And visualy, Is so we are able to identify one lot of UFO's from the other. There it's said.

Regards, robbo.

I think it all ties together in this way: What we think are e.t.'s, aliens, are in fact the fallen angels. The great deception, and the church doesn't know/do anything. In the days of Noah, the fallen angels married human females and it created a disgusting off-spring. God was angered and very sad about this. It was so disgusting that only a total annihilation (the great flood) could solve this mess. Jesus said that in the end of times, it would be as in the days of Noah. This is a scary thing. You see, angels have certain powers. They can use it for good, and for evils. They have a free will too. Throughout history, angels appeared with a message of peace. "Don't be affraid" was the first thing they said (altough people were a bit frightened at first). Satan and his fallen angel folowers are different. They are angels, so they can travel through dimensions (angels would appear out of nothing, through a wall etc.) and it's clear they don't use it for any good. Satan is getting a lot of power in the end of times, and it seems to me that his time is now. Abduction story's are full of fear, almost like those beings (greys?) feed on it. In what is called 'the alien gospel', told by Blossom Goodchild. , Raëlian etc; 'they' were our creators, they come to tell us this, that we are genetically modified beings, modified by them, and that our religion is false. Yes, Jesus Christ existed, yes, He was a good man, but he didn't ressurect. Dangerous stuff people. All these alien channelers tell us this. They want us to think Jesus was not what we think (Jesus is the essention of Christianity!). Another interesting aspect is that those who've been abducted, and called for Jesus, were at peace immedeatly, never to see these beings again. Only Jesus seems to scare them (like the bible says about demons). Why are there abductions? What are these stories about a breeding program about? Are they preparing for something? This stuff is not getting away, the church need to wake up. Why would fallen angels need to rely on phisical crafts (ufo's)? A common question.

2 Thessalonians 2:9: The coming of the lawless one will be accompanied by the power of Satan. He will use every kind of power, including miraculous signs, lying wonder

Rev. 9/3: 3 And there came out of the smoke locusts upon the earth: and unto them was given power, as the scorpions of the earth have power.

If we go back into the original Greek scripture, it says: The root word of scoripon is: observer, watchman. Power is translated form "exousia", which means: power of choice, liberty of doing as one pleases, phiscal and mental power, power of authority or influence and right of privelage. There is even more to it which deserves it's own topic I think. It talks about an authority over the earth. It aren't really scorpions but beings more powerful ("the watchers"). Translation is a hard and important thing if we look at the verse above.

The alien deception is what all of this is called. Satan want's is to believe there are aliens and that Jesus didn't exist. The 'watchers' have power. Angels can be good and bad, they've got free will. I'm sorry for grammer and other mistakes, my English isn't as good as it was (and I'm just 19...).

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reply to post by WeZet


Thats all based on your own personal interpratation and beliefs and contains no facts in it at all.

Dont waste my time.