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What's the Going Rate for an Election Anyway?

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posted on Oct, 14 2010 @ 09:11 AM
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What's the Going Rate for an Election Anyway?


politicsunlocked.com

As midterm elections near, Democrats are continuing their long streak of odd and off-target messages to voters.

Their newest claim?

Republicans are buying the election.

Putting aside for a moment the fact that both major parties are utterly beholden to special interest groups, lobbyists and various abhorrent industries, let’s examine the Democrats’ claim.

The accusations are coming from both President Obama and Vice President Joe Biden,...
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edit on 10/14/10 by SpartanKingLeonidas because: Adding Depth and Insight To The Post.



posted on Oct, 14 2010 @ 09:11 AM
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Typical partisan rhetoric and party pandering if you ask me.

Election time is here again and the finger-pointing across both sides of the aisle is at an all time high, again, while our money is being funneled out, literally stolen, in Bailout's, both political parties are spending oodles of money to get re-elected.

Meanwhile, citizens are being tossed out upon their keisters, due to mortgage foreclosures, cars are being repossessed due to voting citizens not being able to afford their car payments, and small businesses are folding like a cheap hooker in Washington D.C.

For The Love Of Money - The O'Jays (1973)


Nothing like politics as usual just to show the greed at being re-elected and just how the re-election machine throws money into the wind.

politicsunlocked.com
(visit the link for the full news article)
edit on 10/14/10 by SpartanKingLeonidas because: Adding Depth and Insight To The Post.



posted on Oct, 14 2010 @ 09:22 AM
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I'd say ask Obama, he should know. Are we asking the price to pay voters to vote, are we asking what unlimited, biased media costs, how about hush money and money spent hiding parts of your past, nah maybe he's not a good example, I'm sure he spent more than most.



posted on Oct, 14 2010 @ 09:27 AM
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The problem is however that Bush pulled that off in 2000 and stole that election and the one in 2004.

Partisan politics, typical Washington D.C., throwing money at a problem, or in this case wasting it.

This is why I'm happy to be a Centrist and registered Independent.



posted on Oct, 14 2010 @ 09:49 AM
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The most honest, bi-partisan quote in the article is this, an essential truth:
The Democrats’ claims are just another irrelevant blame game to distract voters from the ethical overhaul needed in Washington. The depressing truth is that every national election is bought—by both parties and practically all candidates. One must be rich and popular to get elected to national office, those less well-off need not apply. So whether it’s through fancy dinners, smear ads, traveling to town halls or any number of other stump activities, elections are decided by money.


Those less well-off need not apply.
No kidding. And it is a damn shame.

It is a terrible thing that politics has become a way of life
in America, instead of "by the people".

Not a one of those are "my people".
I wonder whose they are?

PS- I wonder what the going rate is for a Nobel Peace Prize? Anyone know?



posted on Oct, 14 2010 @ 09:56 AM
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Actually it's surprisingly cheap. Let me show you how it's done, as I once assisted in this time honored process that has been going on for the last 100 years.

Step 1. Invite lawyer A from prestigious law firm x to dinner at the Johnathon club and ask him how he feels about becoming a U.S. Congressman. Let him know, as his firm owner has already told him and he no doubt as heard himself you are very well connected and represent a wide yet very select group of influential and wealthy people who would be very interested in seeing him develop a career in national politics and can help a great deal towards that end.

Step 2. Invite lawyer B from prestigious law firm Y to dinner at the California club and ask him how he feels about becoming a U.S. Congressman. Let him know, as his firm owner has already told him and he no doubt as heard himself you are very well connected and represent a wide yet very select group of influential and wealthy people who would be very interested in seeing him develop a career in national politics and can help a great deal towards that end.

Now if everyone has behaved well, displayed the right body language, nodded and winked at the right time, you now have a democrat and a republican cantidate to run for congress.

Step 3. Privately decide which person you like more, as in like the fact that they have no morals, no compunctions, no qualms about selling their soul for wealth, power and fame.

Step 4. Feed that person the better issues that interest your investment group of oligarchs, your friend that builds schools thinks we need more! Your friend that builds an airport thinks we could use another one! Your friend that builds roads is likewise sure we need a new freeway.

Step 5. Feed the person that you like less, less desirable issues, your friend who is on the orchestra committee thinks we need a new concert hall, your friend on the Autobon society thinks we need a new avory!

Step 6. Call your friend who owns broadcast station a. and newspaper a. and tell them that candidate one is going to be here, there and here and has some really great ideas.

Step 7. Call your friend who owns broadcast station b. and newspaper b. that candidate two is going to be here, there and here, and has some really stupid ideas!

(stupid ideas may be just as attractive to the voters, which is why you want to own the stupid candidate as well as the smart candidate just instead).

Step 8. Apply for some Federal Elections Commission Money

Step 9. Buy a new yacht with it!

Step 10. Wait for election day, and congradulate the winner and console the looser.

Step 11. Wait for your new representative to be sworn in, and then be the first to call them and welcome them aboard, and that their cheif of staff will have a whole slew of things for them to look over that's in the process of being delivered to them and assure them you know they will do well.

Surprisingly cheap and affordable when you get your likeminded friends to pitch in, owning a whole stable of congressmen is vital to making sure you get your political appointed cabinet heads confirmed, as well as the legislation passed you will need to legalize your thefts!

Welcome to America the land of opportunity!


edit on 14/10/10 by ProtoplasmicTraveler because: Spelling is important!



posted on Oct, 14 2010 @ 10:13 AM
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Right now, the Democrats are on the defensive. Unfortunately for Democrats, they are horrible salesmen.

But here are my predictions for the upcoming elections...

The house won't be won by Republicans, despite the TPM's best efforts, the Democrats will keep the house of representatives.

The Senate however, I think that the GOP will take a slight advantage in that, thanks to the TPM.

Here's the rub.

America is selling its soul in this and the next election. Remember that Supreme Court decision allowing corporations the same 1st Amendment rights as everyone else? Welcome to the new America, politicians are going to have a worse enemy than their rivals to deal with. Now the brain dead moron masses are going to be inundated with attack adds not only from each candidate, but corporate sponsors who in all reality are trying to buy the lowest bidder. Whoever is cheaper to buy off, they will run attack adds against their opponent.

Fun ain't it?

Say hello to the new American Oligarchy, Corporations spending their own money instead of giving it to the candidate themselves. That way they can lie and manipulate and finagle the gullible public into voting for the candidate they want them to vote for. The candidates of course now getting the benefit of not having to lie about their opponents, but get to falsely run on the issues, all the while attack adds are run by corporations trying to influence the election for their sponsored candidate.



posted on Oct, 14 2010 @ 10:56 AM
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Sins Of The Founding Fathers

The well-oiled machinery of whispering campaigns, mud-slinging, side-stepping issues and flat out lying is on full display and as disgusting as always.

Perhaps most ironic, however, is that the system is apparently working as designed.

Or at least the way it has worked since the U.S. Constitution was ratified.




Sitting on a sofa on a Sunday afternoon
Going to the candidates' debate
Laugh about it, shout about it
When you've got to choose
Every way you look at it, you lose.

-- Simon & Garfunkel, Mrs. Robinson



posted on Oct, 14 2010 @ 12:38 PM
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I wonder how the politician's in Washington D.C. would react if the population did not show up to vote.

Sorry, we're all out trying to find work, no time for politics.

Think that no one voting would still come off as a landslide for one candidate or another?


Sooner or later, the way the economy is going, it will get that bad.

Instead of standing in line to vote people will be standing in bread lines.

Or marching on Washington D.C. licking their lips.



posted on Oct, 14 2010 @ 12:46 PM
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Do not forget the $1,000 a plate political dinner, while we are all going through McDonalds drive-thru on the $1 menu.

What sanctimonious garbage where benefits to get people elected are thrown where the citizens themselves cannot afford to attend, will be snubbed at the door, and escorted away due to not being dressed in $3,000 Armani suits quite simply because their checkbook doesn't have enough 0's within it, and their limousine or Jaguar is a fantasy.

Or even the paid speaking events to raise funds to get more money than the other person and waste it on advertising false campaign promises, pretentious family scene settings, often with borrowed family members, the slanderous mud-slinging and or edited stock footage of speeches, and or scenes of the future being a better place.

All due to who gets elected by a popularity contest.



posted on Oct, 14 2010 @ 12:52 PM
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I wonder if that means with corporations having the same rights as a citizen if a corporation will have add space?

You know like NASCAR all over the car?

The incoming Senator or Congress member had a suit plastered with corporate logos all over it.

I mean come on, we have to be fair to these fine organizations, don't we?


Please, note my sarcasm, before I throw-up a little in my mouth.

Who Owns Congress? Find the Truth Here!

What about the alleged transparency we were supposed to see yet will never happen no matter who is elected?



posted on Oct, 14 2010 @ 12:58 PM
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Love the avatar.


Yes, the mud-slinging, the foibles exposed, the scandals show the light of day.

All done as mere distractions to make the competition look less desirable as a candidate.

In what equals nothing more than schoolyard taunting to tear each other down.

And if you do not respond you are not seen as having ethics but as weak and helpless.

Oh, and let us not forget, the cut-out organizations that do it for the candidate, so he or she does not have dirt on their hands, but the political party might have some, they were busy digging all the dirt up, after all, and they cannot have their star appearing as a commoner, with the oh so perfect smile, the coiffed hair, and perfect family.



posted on Oct, 14 2010 @ 01:27 PM
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My gawd it's as simple as following shampoo instructions isnt it?
How wonderful of a layout is that?
And all the while you are focused on the future you are sure to own and control.
No distractions other than the ones created to entertain the populace.
Very well illustrated Proto, it got me teary eyed.



posted on Oct, 14 2010 @ 01:31 PM
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Originally posted by SpartanKingLeonidas

What's the Going Rate for an Election Anyway?



For as much good as they do us, I'd say they're worth about $2.49.


I agree with you that this is just partisan rhetoric. They point the finger at each other and have three fingers pointing back at themselves. It's like the kid who starts the fight by hitting another and then cries because he got hit.



posted on Oct, 14 2010 @ 01:41 PM
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Originally posted by SpartanKingLeonidas
reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler
 


Do not forget the $1,000 a plate political dinner, while we are all going through McDonalds drive-thru on the $1 menu.

What sanctimonious garbage where benefits to get people elected are thrown where the citizens themselves cannot afford to attend, will be snubbed at the door, and escorted away due to not being dressed in $3,000 Armani suits quite simply because their checkbook doesn't have enough 0's within it, and their limousine or Jaguar is a fantasy.

Or even the paid speaking events to raise funds to get more money than the other person and waste it on advertising false campaign promises, pretentious family scene settings, often with borrowed family members, the slanderous mud-slinging and or edited stock footage of speeches, and or scenes of the future being a better place.

All due to who gets elected by a popularity contest.


Oh no! Not another Rubber Chicken Dinner this week.

I really hate the Armani crowd, my gardner wears Armani! Brioni with all hand stitching, now that's class! And an exceptionally well made garment.

The masses do like their cake and circuses, oh more bread has arrived. Outstanding. The masses do love their bread and circuses.

I look forward to seeing you at the fund raiser, I sure hope they don't stick me next to Brad and Angelina again.

Those two really need to get a room!



posted on Oct, 14 2010 @ 01:43 PM
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It is not only money it is who your are. If you where a bush the Saudi's would buy it for you. But for me I would have to be an independant and no amount in the world could buy the seat.

Only backed fairies that sprt and R or a D get that seat.



posted on Oct, 14 2010 @ 01:46 PM
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Originally posted by SpartanKingLeonidas
reply to post by whatukno
 


I wonder if that means with corporations having the same rights as a citizen if a corporation will have add space?

You know like NASCAR all over the car?

The incoming Senator or Congress member had a suit plastered with corporate logos all over it.

I mean come on, we have to be fair to these fine organizations, don't we?


Please, note my sarcasm, before I throw-up a little in my mouth.

Who Owns Congress? Find the Truth Here!

What about the alleged transparency we were supposed to see yet will never happen no matter who is elected?


Thanks for quoting my thread SpartanKing, it is really relevant to what you are discussing here. I have posted several highly interesting articles which illustrate:



  1. Who the biggest contributors are
  2. Who has given the highest personal donations
  3. Where the money is coming from
  4. Why it cannot be traced
  5. Why it is a very dangerous business
  6. And finally what does it mean for democracy


Please check it out and leave a comment or two! There are some charts which make it very easy to see at first glance.



posted on Oct, 14 2010 @ 02:21 PM
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Originally posted by HappilyEverAfter
reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler
 


My gawd it's as simple as following shampoo instructions isnt it?
How wonderful of a layout is that?
And all the while you are focused on the future you are sure to own and control.
No distractions other than the ones created to entertain the populace.
Very well illustrated Proto, it got me teary eyed.




It's actually surprisingly simple and effective. You preselect everyone before they even know they are going to run for office. You recruit them, you groom them, you provide them the issues that will benefit your corporations and business interests, and then how they can sell those as being beneficial to the people.

It doesn't matter who the people vote for, because either way it's your candidate.

Likewise the candidates know they have powerful interests that will help them and protect them, and the losers always have a good job waiting for them with one of the firms or companies that the group of oligarchs who are running them all own.

It's a win, win scenario for everyone but the people.

This is actually how it is done.

Once elected, those that really know how to talk and get things pushed through are usually groomed for committee chairs, if they do good on ramming things through on the committees then they groom them for Cabinet Level Positions and Department Heads of Government as political appointees, of the President.

By the way the Powers that Be do not consider the President to be the most important job in the Government, they place greater importance on the Head of the FTC, SEC, Defense Secretary, and CIA Director than they do the President. Since it is the heads of those agencies that will stahl most investigations or award most contracts, or do the dirty work that needs to get done to acquire assetts and resources in out of the way places.

How the government really works and who it works for is fascinating.

People really ought to know!



posted on Oct, 14 2010 @ 02:37 PM
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Host a dinner, rub elbows with bought individuals, tell them who they're going to support for you.

Rinse, lather, repeate.

Corruption at its finest, something I detest, something I see as wrong.

I have never liked someone telling me what to think or do as I see that as idiotic.

I am a free-thinking individual and support only those I see as worthy of my support.



posted on Oct, 14 2010 @ 02:47 PM
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Worth less than the cost of a bullet if you ask me.

What happened to the days of tar and feathering crooks, malcontents, and liars in office?

I sure would love to see that return to society as well as riding them out on a rail.

O' Brother, Where Art Thou? Part 9


This is exactly how a politician who is caught in scandal should be treated.

I had a YouTube clip of a movie of tarring and feathering but it contained semi-nudity and I thought better of it.

Partisan rhetoric is just another way of pandering to people politicians think are too stupid to see through the lies.



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