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Originally posted by PhotonEffect
reply to post by XPLodER
I'm going with the moon
Everything else are either planes flying into and/or out of LGA, or helicopters.
The airspace over Manhattan is very busy at almost anytime during the day or night
Originally posted by FoxMulder91
reply to post by 0ne10
But what if people truly believe some of them are not planes?
Originally posted by FoxMulder91
Personally I wouldnt call them hoaxers because they are not trying to trick anyone.
They are just expressing their personal beliefs.
Originally posted by 0ne10
reply to post by KonquestAbySS
This is the TKO post...
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Originally posted by SonOfTheLawOfOne
It just so happened that people were still watching the skies that night and decided to add that to the thread. It should be in it's own thread at this point, this discussion is still to identify the objects seen during the day from approximately 9AM-4:30PM that have already been defined by enough witnesses as not being balloons.
~Namaste
Originally posted by SonOfTheLawOfOne
reply to post by 0ne10
Unless the laws of physics have changed, this case is not closed.
Originally posted by SonOfTheLawOfOne
Please show PROOF that all of the meteorological and atmospheric conditions were at work between 9am-4pm to keep the balloons suspended at exactly the same field of view without popping or flying too far to see?
Originally posted by SonOfTheLawOfOne
Better yet, please tell me how you would be able to see an 11" balloon at 15,000 feet? Please.
Originally posted by SonOfTheLawOfOne
The only thing that is closed is your mind and perhaps your eyes and ears. Maybe you'll close something else and stop pushing misinformation.
~Namaste
I'm not convinced it was aliens, but am convinced it is still unidentified objects that were in the sky
The short answer is that you don't!
However, it isn't as uncontrolled as that might seem.
The pilot gets full aviation weather reports various sources, which may include governmet or private services. Prior to flight the pilot releases small helium balloons to see the wind direction and speed. Often there are layers of wind that are going in different directions or moving at different speeds.
After anaylizing the weather reports and the actual conditions observed, the pilot will make a decision to fly or not, as well as selecting a launch site appropriate for that flight. since the balloon floats with the wind, the pliot knows which direction the balloon will travel so the launch site is selected which will allow the balloon to fly into an area with appropriate landing sites.
Once airborne, the pilot can move the balloon up and down to utilize the varying directions of wind to change course. Some days the change in direction is quite significant, while at other times there may be little or no change in direction at any altitude. All these factors are taken into account when the pilot determines if the flight will take place or not.
There are even days when there may not be enough wind movement above the earth to fly at all. If there is little or no wind, or if the wind direction is constantly changing, the pilot may decide it isn't safe to fly. If the balloon just sits overhead with little movement, it may be very difficult for the pilot to find a suitable landing spot.
Originally posted by Zyzzz
Well all i can say is that i am witness to these sightings. I saw those "balloons" let me tell you something, what was in the sky were not balloons, those things are not from this earth. It doesn't matter what they say but i saw what i saw.....
Our perception is molded by expectation
we perceive what we expect to perceive
Observers are also influenced in their perceptions by biases, prejudices, interests, and motives.
Gaps in actual perception are often filled in by the witness relying on what S/he expected or wanted to perceive. Between the time of perception and recall, we find a subconscious perceptual filling-in of unperceived details.
Originally posted by Zyzzz
Well all i can say is that i am witness to these sightings. I saw those "balloons" let me tell you something, what was in the sky were not balloons, those things are not from this earth. It doesn't matter what they say but i saw what i saw.....