This is a great F9/11 Review and should receive more credit.

I will be seeing the film to judge myself. But walking in I know I will be watching a biased propoganda Kerry- vote movie.

The sick thing is that teens who do not know better will see this film and regard it as the truth before looking at the other facts. Let them judge ontheir own wheter or not Bush knew of 9/11, not by going to the movies.

I'm in my teens too, but I don't need a movie to make me belive in politics. I read the news in my paper first, then I go onto ATS to read it and finally onto Fox. I get 3 differnt views before I make my own.

ATS should have a documentry, just call it "Deny Ignorance: A Look at Politics and Conspiracy" and have the conservatives do half the movie and the liberals the other half then put it toghter.

Still haven't seen it.
My wife got sick during dinner, and we had to come back home.

I do have a question. Has anyone done a "quick-n-dirty"
demographic of who is seeing this movie.

A lot of student age folks, teenagers, aging hippies...whatever?

Originally posted by JediMaster
ATS should have a documentry, just call it "Deny Ignorance: A Look at Politics and Conspiracy" and have the conservatives do half the movie and the liberals the other half then put it toghter.

Actually, that's a pretty good idea. Minus...uhh, the mudslinging and inevitable character assasination that would ensue. There are a lot of teenagers on this site, and ATS should start its own documentary series on politics. Just move down the categories, ranging from 'Foreign Policy' to 'Economics', with factual contributions from three factions: Democrats, Republicans, and Independent/ Outsiders. That way, everyone gets both sides of story as well as a less biased, middle view.

Since American politics feature predominantly on the site, it only seems reasonable that people be informed on all the parties invovled (I often have trouble distinguishing sides, and their aims in particular).

DE

Originally posted by JediMaster
The sick thing is that teens who do not know better will see this film and regard it as the truth before looking at the other facts.

As opposed to listening to the president and regarding what he says as truth before looking at the other facts?

I would post my opinion, but then again I am just a dumb student going for my Business degree, Michael Moore is a propegandist

You have to look at this movie from two directions I think.

The movie itself has merit. It raises question that the mainstream media has spent alot of time and energy ignoring to date.

However what continues to piss me off is the blatant "Im famous" do what I saw, listen to my political views that the preachy elite of Hollywood continue to cram down our throats. I agree with some of the above posters, unlike some of Moores previous efforts, this movie is portrayed more like a 1.5 hour Kerry campaign spot. Instead of portraying it in a true doccumentary fassion, Moore infuses his politics into everything now.

A quote from Freemason "This film will drastically affect our lives if it manages to convince the lesser peoples of society (the ignorant and adle-brained) that the enemy is not Terrorists but the freedom loving and small government loving Republicans.".

I have two issues with that statement... First off, to call the Republicans "small government loving" seems to be pretty far off from the truth (Patriot Act anyone?)... Try the libertarians for "small government loving". Yeah, yeah... you have issues because they want small military too... try to find some unflawed political party... I don't really know too many people from any party that subscribe to every last viewpoint that represents the majority of the party (the planks if you will). The only "sane" viewpoint in my opinion is that of the Independent... I like the idea, because to me, it says you care enough to think for yourself on the issues. You are confident enough in what you believe that you don't need to join a "gang" to be accepted and for your opinion to matter.

Also, the lesser people of society are ignorant and adle-brained? What in your book qualifies someone as "lesser"?? Someone below the poverty-line? Someone that has a "blue collar" job? Someone that doesn't share the same viewpoint as you? Someone who lives is a ghetto/slum or different part of town (or from a small town for that matter)? Someone that didn't graduate highschool? Someone on welfare? Someone of a different Faith? Someone with a different ethnicity? What makes someone lesser than you? Seriously, it just comes off as you are better than most "them" because you are in some selfdiluted way higher (crack maybe?). If you're a "christian" and most Republicans are, why don't you do us all a favor and pray for Jesus to knock you down a few pegs?

The thing I like about "lesser" people is that they tend to be a bit more humbled than the "highers". Most of the lessers I know are some of the kindest most caring people out there.

Oh, and just to stop assumptions like above, and so I can also get an idea of your political influences, what religion are you? Christian? (Only asking because, again, it is the most common Rep religion). And it would also help to determine what other opinions you may have.

Oh and JediMaster, F911 is not Kerry biased... As a matter of fact Moore doesn't like him either. It's basically just anti-Bush...

And just a quick rant... One thing that drives me up the wall is that people refuse to listen to an opposing viewpoint w/o screaming witch. Heaven forbid some information or viewpoint be out there that you or your elite group don't agree with. Oh, and by group it can be anything from political, religious, to just a group of friends or family. Is it really that bad to hear what someone has to say and politely dismiss it? Seriously, I'm a nice enough guy to listen to any viewpoint... but, that most certainly doesn't mean that I have to like it... But, I will always try to never form an opinion around something I know nothing of (I'm mainly saying it because I've seen a number of posts from people that have full opinions formed about the movie saying F911 is full of lies, it's garbage, etc... but they haven't seen it and have no intention to. Yeah... that does a lot for credibility).

/rant

the thing i dont get about this movie is how gore won the election in florida then just minutes later bush seems to have won.

it was broadcasted on cnn that gore had won, then about twenty minutes later channel fox announces that bush has won...

a little too wierd if you ask me...especially if you have the person counting the votes as your wife..

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1 Michael Moore and Richard Perle Combine Forces

2 Michael Moore Shills for Illuminati Bankers





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