EXCLUSIVE: New York Violating MOVE Act. 320,000 Votes at Stake. Amazing!!

Is this how the election will be won by the majority currently in power? Great way to treat our servicemen and women.

More than one week after its extended deadline, New York still hasn’t mailed out absentee ballots to all its 320,000 military servicemen and women and overseas voters, in clear violation of the MOVE Act, FoxNews.com has learned.

According to the 2009 MOVE Act, a state must send out its military and overseas ballots 45 days prior to elections.

New York was granted a waiver to this deadline by the Department of Justice and given an additional 15 days -- until October 1 -- to send out all its ballots. On October 5, New York State Board of Elections co-directors informed federal officials that the state had not fully met their extended deadline, according to an e-mail posted online at FVAP.gov, the website of the Defense Department agency tasked with overseeing military voting.

County Boards of Elections have reported to our office that UOCAVA ballots have been transmitted to voters within their respective jurisdictions except in the City of New York, and the following counties: Erie, Niagara, Putnam and Westchester.”

And, as of Oct. 9, these ballots still have not been mailed to voters in these counties, who will now have less than 25 days to receive, mark and return their ballots, federal and state officials told FoxNews.com. New York City alone has about 50,000 servicemen and women and overseas voters.

"The gravity of New York's failure cannot be overstated. With approximately 50,000 military and overseas voters in New York City alone, there is no doubt that the November elections could be altered by this failure,” said Eric Eversole, a former Justice Department voting section attorney who recently started a nonprofit organization, Military Voter Protection Project, to protect military voting rights.

The MOVE Act was passed in 2009. It's lead author and sponsor was Senator Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.), Chairman of the Senate Rules Committee; It was co-sponsored by John Cornyn (R-Texas.)

In a statement to FoxNews.com, Sen. Schumer said:

"Put these ballots on the next plane to Afghanistan. These soldiers sacrifice their lives to protect our freedoms, they should never, ever be denied their right to vote. I wrote and passed this law so our brave men and women overseas would no longer be disenfranchised and there is absolutely no excuse for failing to get this done. The boards of election should immediately get these ballots to each and every one of our service members around the world. They should overnight them if they have to -- no ifs, ands or buts."

Sen. Cornyn gave this statement to FoxNews.com:

"The fact that New York government officials failed to live up to the clear terms of the waiver is shocking, in light of how much our troops have sacrificed in the years since 9/11. This is a clear violation of federal voting rights law. If DOJ does not file a suit to right this wrong as soon as the courts open on Tuesday, then we will know once and for all that DOJ is not serious about safeguarding military voting rights."

www.foxnews.com...

MIND NUMBING!!

They know that the military servicemen/women usually vote Republican and since New York is a heavily Democratic controlled state they know that they could be at risk if they give the military personell their voting rights.

reply to post by jibeho


does this really surprise you?

dead people will voting military will not be voting

i think i was being delusional when i thought the left would steal this election but its becoming ever increasingly apparent they will.........................

goes back to 2008 too how did a noname guy with no experience get elected in the first place?.............


everyone i know didnt vote for the guy and the dude supposedly carried my state..btw i live in red country.....

The biggest problem I have w/ overseas ballots is how much due the service people know about the people running? Not that I disagree with our overseas troops being able to vote, I think they are being done a disservice by not being able to make an informed choice. But this issue does show the wastefulness of NY. Payed state employees not doing their jobs?!? That whole department needs to be fired.

Originally posted by Misoir
They know that the military servicemen/women usually vote Republican and since New York is a heavily Democratic controlled state they know that they could be at risk if they give the military personell their voting rights.

I am sure the Republican co-chairmen of the bipartisan board of elections share the goal of undermining the election for the party they represent. Someone must have bought them out. . .

Or perhaps they are just incompetent in their shared duties?

BINGO

I know that the 2008 election was a huge bunch of crap
for a lot of the Marines that were deployed that I know.
They didn't get to vote.
Period, that is fact.
This whole "we get the absentee ballot
to our servicemembers overseas" is a bunch of
raa-raa bullcrap to generate
patriotic votes in some
ironic twist.

Either they don't get a ballot,
or they get them, and they get sent
back too late to be counted. Invariably.

reply to post by jibeho


Without getting myself on any additional watch lists, let me say that the very important and very peaceful Tea Party Movement that does not include Palin, Beck or Fox, has worried about something like this from the start.

I think the common person in the common small town that loves their country really wants to believe that a grass roots political movement can make a difference on the National political scene.

However, I think deep down we know that it is very unlikely that the entrenched poltical parties and machinery will be booted out of our government by feel good rallies and voter turnout.

If TPTB find a way to steal this election, and if the typical two party system and big name candidates continue to stay in power. AND, if this November is further proof that we have entirely lost control of our Country, and the government no longer works for us, but that we now work for the government. AND IF, Obama's plan has approximately 70% of the population dependent on some sort of Government program before 2012. THEN........I think........we will see something other than a peaceful political movement. In my opinion, November 2nd is the last chance at a peaceful restructuring of the Government, and if the results on the news November 3rd are the same as the past 2 or 3 elections, then I suspect the political movement will get very quiet while another type of movement begins to boil under the calm surface of the water!!

reply to post by clay2 baraka


Yeah it could always just be that too.....

reply to post by thegoodearth


Funny because I remember the exact same issue being a big deal in 2004. I guess this is just more evidence of the deep Liberal plot to get George W. appointed president by the supreme court.

Anyone that can show me an election without charges of fraud from one side or the other might be my hero.

reply to post by Curiousisall


I agree. Election Fraud is as old as politics itself.

However, where is the accountability? Who is going to be fired? Who is going to demand the elections be put off until the ballots can be delivered appropriately? Who is policing this stuff?

How long can the governments, local, state, and federal, how long can they continue just doing whatever the hell they want with nothing more than a little bad press as their penalty? They know they can withstand a day or two of bad press as long as they have something very good, or very scary to follow it up with.

I want to know when, where, and how these things are going to be resolved. I want to know who is in charge, and who is getting fired!

reply to post by getreadyalready


I agree with what you are saying on the surface but it just seems far more complicated than just restoring order to the process. The fraud is way too deep and it needs to be rooted out from the bottom up. But see, the thing is we are getting fancy new electronic voting machines in NY just in time for this election. As far as I know, electronic voting machines have only been linked to fraud going for the right. So who is trying to stifle who? I think no one in politics wants anyone's vote to count because they all feel they know better. So this election will be all about who manages their fraudulent behavior more proficiently. My problem is that I guess anyone that is upset about this without still being upset that the presidency was handed over by the SC just seems a little disingenuous to me. Will we just get over this in 6 years too or does it matter which sides fraud wins?

reply to post by Curiousisall


Even though I voted for W, I was still upset at many things in that election.

#1 The Press!! I was one of the people in the panhandle of Florida that had not voted yet when the press announced the Florida winner! They forgot that part of the panhandle is in the Central time zone, and that the panhandle is largely conservative. They made a HUGE error, and it caused the pendulum to swing in Bush's favor in the state, and the state wound up being the swing vote.

#2 The Supreme Court should never, never, never decide anything!! In all fairness the Popular Vote should have the final say on everything. We no longer need the Electoral College, because we no longer need a representative to ride his horse for a week to get to the place to cast the vote for his state. The EC served its purpose in colonial times, but now it is outdated and unnecessary and misunderstood. By that logic, W would have lost, and I would have been fine with that (and still mad at the press).

I agree with you that everyone in government thinks they know more than John Q. Public, and everyone in politics is tasked with how can they best mislead the voters, or keep the voters out of the equation completely. They want more power in the hands of career politicians (including SCOTUS), and they want less power in the hands of the public. This has been ongoing for so many decades that it seems normal.

So, I don't mind losing a hard fought election, but highly despise playing a rigged game, even if my guy comes out on top. As a matter of fact, the quickest way to lose my vote, is to play along with the political game or party lines or popular opinion or polling.

I want a representative that has a conscious and a moral code, even if it is different than my own. I would rather vote for a strong minded leader that I disagree with, than a poll-oriented popular face. That is exactly how Charlie Crist lost all of his support in Florida. He watched too much TV, and he tried to cater to popular opinion. Nobody wants a pansy leading their state or country.

Originally posted by Curiousisall
reply to post by thegoodearth

 

Funny because I remember the exact same issue being a big deal in 2004. I guess this is just more evidence of the deep Liberal plot to get George W. appointed president by the supreme court.

Anyone that can show me an election without charges of fraud from one side or the other might be my hero.

That would be easy if you don't mind the examples coming from the southern hemisphere.
In Australian elections fraud has never been an issue.
People here mostly could not even believe America has such an inept farce as an a excuse for elections.

We'd kick up a stink if we even had to wait more than 5 minutes at the polling booth to vote. And criminals still have the right to vote here. Which is fair enough, would look bad denying the vote to the people standing for office.

reply to post by jibeho


New Yawk Still Holds the Record for being America's " Most Disfunctional State " . God Help them All who Presently Live there.........

I'm placing my comments from a thread a started after this thread was formed. I was reading some of the replies and saw where one comment implied that the service personnel aren't fully informed of the candidates who are running. I'd have to dispute this especially in the age of the internet. It's seems highly unlikely that our troops wouldn't be aware of what's going on in their hometown, state or nation.

I also read that since most military personnel will vote Republican, this was done on purpose to avoid having these votes counted. Well, if this is true, it should show the American people of the criminal behavior that's so prevalent in the Democratic party.

The following are my comments from the thread I started which I feel like it will be soon trashed.

NY DailyNews.com

I find this appalling that when our sons, daughters, brothers and sisters are overseas, doing their duty to serve the nation, that the Board of Elections can "forget" to send them absentee ballots for the upcoming mid-term elections. When our military personnel are on our minds constantly and on the news day in and day out, an agency that's in charge of making sure every regiserted voter has the chance to cast their vote, can forget about our troops.

Don't try and say that "we're all human and are subject to mistakes." This is not a mistake. This is downright dereliction of duty. This is downright laziness. This is downright a criminal act. This is something that has no excuse for. While Chuck Schumer is not a person that I agree with all the time, I do agree with him on this deal. There is absolutely no reason to why these ballots haven't been sent already. Especially when election and military are the main subjects of the news lately. Election and military. Election and military.

Whoever is responsible for this should join the ranks of the unemployed after going to jail. This is, IMO, a criminal act. Anyone here think that compromising a persons right to vote is an act that should be punishable by jail time? Like I said, there is absolutely no reason at all our soldiers overseas should not have recieved their absentee ballots by now. None.

Will they really ignore sending the 320,000 ballots to the military personnel? How can they do that and still call this a legal election? It upsets me the most because of the brave men and women of our military not being allowed to vote. This is disgusting. I live in New York.

Mahree

Originally posted by getreadyalready
So, I don't mind losing a hard fought election, but highly despise playing a rigged game, even if my guy comes out on top. As a matter of fact, the quickest way to lose my vote, is to play along with the political game or party lines or popular opinion or polling.

I do not understand at all. You do not mind losing a fair election but you despise a rigged one yet you voted for Bush and only blame the press and SC for the fraud that got him APPOINTED? Who is losing your vote? You know you cannot vote for Bush again so no vote lost there. I guess what I was getting at and what you seem to exemplify is that no one cares about the fraud unless they think it is going to make their guy lose. You are still going to vote Republican, are you not? No one lost any votes from you over voter fraud but here you are complaining about it? Seems a little one sided to me but maybe I missed something. The press and the SC are not the ones that commited the fraud to begin with are they?

reply to post by Curiousisall

Maybe I didn't say it very clear. Yes I voted for Bush, but I didn't want to win in the Supreme Court. I would have been happier if they chose to count the popular vote and he lost the election in a fair manner. In reality, the integrity of the democratic process is the most important aspect. Any single politician is just a speedbump in the road.

When I said that a politician could lose my vote by following the polls, I gave the example of Charlie Crist in Florida. I voted for him the first time, but when he started chasing the polls and changing his stance on things and trying to get popular for a Senate run, he lost my vote for both! I wouldn't vote for him for Gov. or Senate at this point.

What I despise is the Press trying to give us "results" when all they have are incomplete exit polls and estimations. The press influences the voters before the polls are closed, and it should be illegal!! AND I despise politicians that try to do the popular thing instead of being leaders and doing what they feel is right, even if it is unpopular.

I would vote for a politician that I disagreed with, as long as I thought they would stick to their own moral code in the face of adversity, and not do a flip-flop to match the polls.

Let's now add Illinois to this list. It's not officially confirmed but it looks like will also disenfranchise our troops. Come on former senator Obama, don't stand for this malfeasance in your home state.

Cris Cray, Director of Legislation at the Illinois State Board of Elections, says not all of Illinois' 110 jurisdictions were compliant with the 2009 Military and Overseas Voter Empowerment Act (MOVE).

The law requires every state to mail their absentee ballots 45 days prior to Election Day to overseas troops, government employees and other Americans who want to vote from abroad.

Cray says she is currently compiling data from each of Illinois' jurisdictions to determine which were compliant and which were delinquent. Cray said it's possible the ballots may not be counted because the state was tardy in sending them out.

Even New Mexico

The Justice Department settled a case with New Mexico Tuesday where six counties failed to mail ballots by the deadline.

www.wlsam.com...