I despise humanity - is this normal?

I would love to know if I'm the only one who is sick and tired of this bleeding heart, hand-wringing "humans as parasites" agenda that seems to be infecting so many people.

For frequenters of a website related to conspiracies I'm surprised these views don't set alarm bells ringing. It points to the NWO agenda of population reduction. I have a horrible feeling that when it comes it will be done in the name of "gaia".

So, OP, do you really advocate a reset of the planet/society? Would you still be happy if you weren't one of those "chosen" to continue?

Originally posted by cheesyleps
I would love to know if I'm the only one who is sick and tired of this bleeding heart, hand-wringing "humans as parasites" agenda that seems to be infecting so many people.

For frequenters of a website related to conspiracies I'm surprised these views don't set alarm bells ringing. It points to the NWO agenda of population reduction. I have a horrible feeling that when it comes it will be done in the name of "gaia".

So, OP, do you really advocate a reset of the planet/society? Would you still be happy if you weren't one of those "chosen" to continue?

ive many many times looked at the heavens and said `i am prepared to go when its my time`...
i am not `suicidal` `depressed` or have any wish to die
but i would not shed a tear leaving this planet, whether it means going elsewhere, or passing on
because i know and NOBODY will ever be able to take away from me, my belief that the soul is what makes you, and it is an eternal source which can never be eliminated

p.s in a sense though one world civilisation/ government/ country, or whatever you call it would eliminate many of the differences which plague humanity, if people looked at themselves as one race on one planet.. a lot of the differences and conflicts would immediatly go

reply to post by daluniverse


See what the OP fails to realize that there is and must be a balance, such as yin and yang.

When bad things arise, they soon fall and good ones arise and so forth.

I too am like this, and a time later i look around and clearly see the wrong-doings done by many.

But what i uttermost believe in is happiness, if a person is happy to do this and that, Great. It is why this life is so f''''ed up with most because they're still in the "good and evil" phase. If you judge many or someone for what they choose, you only throw yourself down into the pits of hell. Once you let that go, the judging of others and embracing the presence of human will, you will soon discover the love (not the love that YOU or anyone here ATS can imagine).

Remember because i've thought about this all the time and it gives me hope. The devil/satan that you hear or read about (sometimes considered the ego), well it wants 1/3 of the souls on this planet and there must be a balance because if not, no one learns and therefore no one grows and no one evolves...if you consider that you're not in that group, you're good. Other than that, stop thinking like a king of this world and do things that make you happy on the inside because whatever happens on the outside is just nature, to change that you must first change yourself, on the inside.

Sure sounds like the sixties. Young people were finally realizing they were human sexual beings and that it was normal to want to experiment.

People were, during the sixties, seventies and eighties killing each other, raping and doing all the bad things that are going on now in 2010.

We didn't have music that talked about killing and sex that was recognized for what they were. There was a sort of code that all we deviants knew. The FCC is the only entity that kept our older music from being as forwardly blatant as it is now.

Some of the love songs and songs that spoke of drugs were not as blunt as now.

Civilization has been perverted since time began. It's no worse than before but now it's publicized more and is out of the closet.

It is normal to despise the horrible things done to our fellow humans. Jusst reaalize there are more good people than bad.

All we can do is teach and protect our children and not become what we despise.

reply to post by daluniverse


Its not so much that you despise humanity or humans as you do their programming. How they appear now isn't their natural state of being but a fabricated reality. Yes you are infected just as I am infected and everyone on the planet is infected. Those that say they are not infected or there is no infection are the ones infected the worst. There are lesser and greater degrees of infection yes

You would understand what I am saying if the programming failed, broke down in say a 24hr period, and the true reality was to come back.

We would be saying to ourselves...WOW...no wonder I was that way or this way or thought this or thought that or reacted that way or didn't react this way.

Fortunately the infection (programming is beginning to fail) and some are beginning to wake up and yes,,in lesser and greater degrees and at different rates of time.

reply to post by daluniverse


Sure things are bad but in this world there is always light and darkness existing alongside each other.
That will be until the light overtakes the darkness when the circle of this life returns to its original perfection.

Until then try to stay away from the moral decadence of what you describe. There are many people who do this and succeed somewhat. Try to get in tune with those kinds of people.

Indeed there is the ignorance, materialism, greed, evil and vanity of western civilization that will eventually disturb the balance and bring down the civilization.

Until then it is possible for the individual to become happy and perfect with intense effort as the great Buddha demonstrated.

For those who don’t like the OP's attitude, they shouldn’t [IMO] castigate him or her since at least this is a sincere calling out for help and understanding and it seems the OP is being honest.

We need to have compassion and empathy for each other!

peace

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The sting of death is sin, and the power of sin is the law.

And the last enemy to be destroyed is death.

What, then, was the purpose of the law? It was added because of transgressions until the Seed to whom the promise referred had come. The law was put into effect through angels by a mediator.

But sin, seizing the opportunity afforded by the commandment, produced in me every kind of covetous desire. For apart from law, sin is dead. Once I was alive apart from law; but when the commandment came, sin sprang to life and I died. I found that the very commandment that was intended to bring life actually brought death.

For the creation was subjected to frustration, not by its own choice, but by the will of the one who subjected it, in hope that the creation itself will be liberated from its bondage to decay and brought into the glorious freedom of the children of God.

Such regulations indeed have an appearance of wisdom, with their self-imposed worship, their false humility and their harsh treatment of the body, but they lack any value in restraining sensual indulgence.

Is the law, therefore, opposed to the promises of God? Absolutely not! For if a law had been given that could impart life, then righteousness would certainly have come by the law.

I too despise the way humanity lives on this beautiful world. I dislike Dishonesty, Greed, Violence and Unbalanced Ego.. in fact, all the things that Media illustrates as Normal and Desirable in our modern culture.

Yes humans have the ability to enact the worst kinds of things, just as eaily as they have the ability to raise up and do great things. Yet Media in all its forms only offers a limited scope for The Dream we are all supposed to want. It supports the Cultural Indoctrination fully and yet also supports the worst of mankind's actions, and this was done not because there was a market for it but simply because it is a tool to Create Division in Society.

All you can do is to develop Equanimity and Model what you desire to see in the world around you. To see the world as it is yet not let it Effect You in any way. This allows us to remain clear in perception and actions chosen so that we can Model Behaviours for others to see... being a Light in the Darkness.

The only problem is, if you do stand up and model, if you do stand up and speak openly about what you see.. you are attacked for it. You will be told you are too old fashioned, need to get up with the times, and in many cases simply labeled a Loser or Crazy and then forced into the fringe of society. At least that is my experience of it so far after 50 years of trying to Model and Shine.

But that does not make me stop modelling effective behaviours or being totally honest at all times. It does make me stay out of the mainstream where all I got was doors slammed in my face year after year and so I am a fringe dweller on the edge of a decaying, cancer-riddled Society that is in its own death-throws.

Welcome to my world

Don't get too wound up...humans also overestimate their abilities. I predict humans will not span in significant numbers a million years from now....and that really isn't much. I know my purpose is to bring forth the advancement of human extinction...so that the true heirs of this planet are given back their thrones.

I feel the ops pain.
Wipe the Earth of any form of fake value papers and just let everyone work together because they want to achieve something. Screw cash, its just paper. It brings out the ugly in people and causes wars for more profits.

reply to post by daluniverse

Welcome to The Club. Nothing new or revolutionary about your sentiments, really.

I'm not trying to castigate the OP and I apologise if my previous post came across as hostile, it was late at night and I had a terrible migraine all day. No excuse I know, but it tends to shorten one's fuse somewhat.

As one poster mentioned, when looking at humans en-masse one sees many things that are repulsive and vile but break down those people into smaller groups and the vast majority of people have something about them to like. Be it wit, charm, values, intelligence, manners etc. It is very difficult to dislike individual people but very easy to dislike the "herd".

What I don't understand is how so many people have this vision of society breaking down and people reverting to some sort of "harmonious natural order" (that has never, ever, existed even before 'civilisation') where there is suddenly no war, no fear, no profiteering etc. It just won't happen.

My view is the opposite. Remove the restraints of civilisation and a lot of people would go the opposite way.

If I came to you with a plan for robbing a bank in such a way that I could absolutely guarantee you that there is no way you would ever be linked to it or arrested. Would you go through with it? The vast, vast majority of people would. What keeps most people in check is the threat of violence from the state. Remove that and you would soon have something that looks like it came from a cheesy post-apocalyptic movie.

reply to post by cheesyleps

Hi Cheesy,

Maybe the reason why many people think things will change in the future is because this system will have to change or we will simply wipe ourselves out one way or another. The system can't sustain itself for too much longer since it is based on the mindset of Might is Right, so it should reach its natural conclusion in a Big Bang instead of a whimper.

Even if that doesn't happen, things will continue to slide downhill quickly. We would reach a B grade Apocolyptic Movie style scenario anyway with roaving gangs stealing all they can and some groups trying to eke out a positive living.

After that scenario the remaining people who are left will be making an important choice... to build.. not rebuild, but to build anew with an understanding to not repeat mistakes from the past. This would bring in a different approach to living as human beings on this world, one based in Equality for all, supprt for all, in order to make the most of each persons natural talents instead of forcing everyone to fit one basic style of Mold, as we do today.

The entire process could take hundreds of years or more to reach something like a more harmonious way to live together here. So I think the people who are saying it will be Great are those who are thinking long term survival in the centuries to come. If not, we are doomed as a species on this planet.

To be honest, i kinda feel the same. This world is not a very nice place at all. Yes, its a beautiful planet, no one can deny that, but humans have turned into a virus, slowly destroying the planet, and not really giving a crap because all these people care about is the greed.

But its not just the govenments that are destoyong the planet, but its the violence that is playing a big part too. Children seem to be more violent, with no repect whatsoever. In the uk, you have gangs of children on the streets, throwing their abuse at people, and if you answer back, be ready for a hiding, even death!

People are brainwashed with celebs and tv. People are more concerned about who makes it through the next round of x factor, than what is really happening in the world. You really do get a sense that people have been dumbed down.

So yes, this is a bad place, and you always have to have your wits about you. People say about ying and yang, but thats rubbish. The way we are heading, ying and yang does not even come into it.

It does get me down alot too. It gets me down that we are such a violent race. Even the governments around the world show their primitive pety ways through tribal warfare. Threating another country when their boat strays a metre into their space. It like a bunch of kids!

We have lived on this planet for thousands of years, but we don't see us as all human beings. We are divided by countries. We have this child like way of trying to be the first country to do this, or do that, and it really annoys me.

At the end of the day, we are all related. We all cam from the same thing, and that is earth. We are all brothers and sisters, but only a few see it like that, which is a shame.

For as long as i can remember, i have seen the bigger picture, while others go cross eyed when i talk to them about it, totally oblivious.

So OP, there are other people that feel the same, you are not the only one.

It's not by any means normal but it's not as unusual as you might think either. You are a misanthrope.
You might want to consider moving to an extremely remote wilderness like the rockies, not everybody was built to live amongst other humans, you don't need other people to be happy and these things that cause you such distress are only going to get worse.
Seriously - rockies, log cabin, sauna, dog, horse, powered paraglider. Sorted.

There is a pleasure in the pathless woods,
There is a rapture on the lonely shore,
There is society where none intrudes,
By the deep Sea, and music in its roar:
I love not Man the less, but Nature more,
From these our interviews, in which I steal
From all I may be, or have been before,
To mingle with the Universe, and feel
What I can ne’er express, yet cannot all conceal.

I've struggled with the exact same feelings towards humanity. Humans are a destructive race, you'd think that the dying planet we call home would unite us towards positive movement to attempt to remedy all the problems we've created. But obviously something like our total annihilation isn't a good enough reason to finally get over our differences and work towards a better global society.

A good percentage of our race are only out for themselves, stepping over anyone to get what they want, not caring about the consequences and the ripple effect that it causes down the line.

I'll admit it. I've got very bitter feelings towards the human race. This planet and us as a race would be much better if humans never existed.

reply to post by daluniverse


I was where you are once. It's just frustrating to have a more mature outlook on life than most people do. You grow to hate them for the irrational way they act.

Eventually though, I learned that my act of despising people was just as despicable as the people I despised. They are just in a different place in their spiritual growth than you are, and they need to be until they are ready to move on. The best thing you can do is learn to not judge them. Instead, have some compassion for them, and help them when you can. I noticed that you believe in reincarnation... So remember, that means you were there once too

Oh, and don't sweat the small stuff like Lady Gaga's lyrics. That song is about loving a person for who they are, and accepting the good AND the bad (hence the "I want your ugly, I want your disease"). It's often not as sinister as you think. Ironically, those lyrics apply pretty well to your situation too. Learn to love the bad in humanity too, not just the good.

Originally posted by daluniverse
because to most people there is nothing more to life than partying, getting drunk, smoking, nightclubs, drugs and thats it.

How strange! Must be the folks you associate with - or else my little circle leads a very boring lifestyle...
If you only see the bad (or fail to spot the good), with respect, that's your problem. Sounds like you are in some sort of hell. One you made for yourself.

Nuclear war is inevitable, billions will die soon and hopefully then humanity will learn that we need to do something about our psychotic nature genetically (if we are still around). Get rid of those hedonist, psychotic, and hate filled genes.

reply to post by daluniverse

The language which is prevalant in every aspect of society is also beyond sickening, i hear parents swearing at their babies, ill hear adults cursing non stop, sometimes saying the `f` word about 10 times in one sentence!! WHY!!! And dont tell me `theyre` only words... i think people who curse in every sentence need their disgusting mouths washed out with soap! Humanity are at an all time low, they couldnt give a dam about one another, nor their own planet, and blood flows among the street like water, theres no respect for the elderly, animals, nothing! And the only things thrown at you from all angles by the media is sex, imorality, violence and foul lanuage. It really does show how much humanity have been conditioned to accept violence and imorality as the normal! Mother earth please do your part, do what youve done so many times before, cleanse the filth.... Whether its an act of God, aliens, or a unlucky comet.. the BEST THING which could happen to poor mother earth is a reset.. get rid of the filth and start again in the hope that this time the current nature of humanity will be eradicated for good Yes, i know theres some genuinely good people out there, especially missionairies, red cross workers and people like that who genuinely do care.. but the vast majority of humanity are truly scum of the earth

Friend, I hear your anguish, and feel your pain. I too am appalled at humanity in general for their wicked ways, their Idol worship, be it Gaga, money, or Power, they all have a Master, and even though through the years they "stab it with their steely knives," they always fail to kill the Beast, with is themselves.

Mirrors on the ceiling, the pink champagne on ice
And she said, "We are all just prisoners here of our own device"
And in the master's chambers they gathered for the feast
They stab it with their steely knives but they just can't kill the beast
Last thing I remember I was running for the door
I had to find the passage back to the place I was before
"Relax," said the night man, "We are programmed to receive
You can check out any time you like but you can never leave"

(Eagles, Hotel California)

They fail to realize that they are trapped in a prison that is, at least partly so, of their own design. For those of you who truly understand the workings of a computer: Imagine one a thousand years advanced from the most modern one we have today, and you grasp what I am talking about here. We live in an Electronic-Magnetic Nexus of Energy that forms our reality as we know it. This technology takes our thoughts and creates energy from that to form a reality fitting to the moment. thoughts become material objects, although perhaps not in this dimension, in another one.

I am glad you mention Mother Earth, for mankind has forgotten their Mother, and they gleefully not only give thanks, but attribute most everything to some outside presence that cannot be seen, or felt like the Mother can. The Mother gives us all things we need, food and drink, material for shelter, rain and weather, seasons for planting, She gives us all things to survive. The Great Mother will soon go through the Birth cycle and a new Earth will be born, all of the old dross left by humanity will again be buried and gone from sight. The nuclear bombs will be destroyed, and the weapons melted down by the intense heat during the process. What will be left will be a pristine new world for us to live on and take care of. I have to ask, shall we destroy Her again? Shall we callously dump chemicals on Her soil and in Her waters? Shall we change Her weather patterns and ocean currents? Shall we design and build large skyscrapers to set Her off balance? I hope that this time around, the end/beginning cycle will remain in collective thought, as the Flood did, perhaps then humanity will learn to care for their Mother and their Home.