Nazi Ufo's

I saw an episode from the UFO Files on the History Channel. It was about the Nazi Scientists/UFO connenction.
I had never heard of this before. I know the Nazi's were more advanced then the rest of the world but the program implies that they might have had anti-gravity knowledge.

The program states that there was odd-looking writing on it's perimeter. The Kecksburg incident also has witnesses saying there was strange writing on the perimeter of this strange acorn shaped craft that had crashed.

I can't believe that the Germans were THAT far ahead.

Is there a tie-in between Operation Paperclip, anti-gravity and The Kecksburg Incident seeing as both crafts had strange writing around there perimeters?

yeah there are tons of threads on this subject and it does fascinate me. I believe (and know) that Nazis have Ufos, and made Ufos, I believe they gathered some of their Antigravity help from Tibetan monks (believe it or not) think, Tibetan Bowls, Mathematics, Giza, and rock levitations.



nazi ufo blue prints

Originally posted by copper5661


Is there a tie-in between Operation Paperclip, anti-gravity and The Kecksburg Incident seeing as both crafts had strange writing around there perimeters?

There is a mythological one, yes. But it is based mostly on hearsay and eyewitness testimony and isn't really tangible: To this day there's not enough evidence to make definite conclusions.

What can be proven is that the Nazis constructed an Avro-Car type prototype, the Reichsflugscheibe from Schriever. That's probably where the myth originates.

As for the rest; it is based on speculation that SS General Kammler headed some top secret research projects by the end of the war and the he survived, something that I find unlikely. But there's enough uncertainty there to merit some speculation.

The rest of the story is almost too intangible to reconstruct here: Viktor Schauberger and his esoteric free energy propulsion system, the FIAT underground labarory at lake Como, the Henge and Skoda in Chechoslovakia, Walter Gerlach's supposed mercury experiments.

These are the rumors that were already going around at the end of the war.

The rest of the stuff, especially Antarctica and Aldebaran etc. are fabrications from the 1960's.

I hope that helps you for a start. Sorry for not providing links as I did this from the top of my head. Feel free to ask any question and I'll try to answer them with what I remember from my days of inquiry in this field.

reply to post by NichirasuKenshin


I am overwhelmed. I had no idea that there is so much to this.

Might be a nice way to spend a Sunday researching this.

Originally posted by copper5661
reply to post by NichirasuKenshin

 

I am overwhelmed. I had no idea that there is so much to this.

Might be a nice way to spend a Sunday researching this.

Saw the same show, the only problem is, if we have had the tech and blueprints for 70 years, why arent we seeing results? The Goverment does not keep new aircraft a secret for 70 years, instead we see our normal 2 winged fighter jets.

Which leades me to beleive, that A. The technology didn't work, or work in a safe way. Or B. We cant understand the Blueprints

Ever seen this? Nazi ufo's????

reply to post by Haydn_17


I submit possibility C: The supposed "blueprints" are fakes or taken out of context.

Quite frankly I have never seen or read anything that would lead me to believe that the Nazis succesfully implemented any kind of esoteric technology. They were very good with traditional engineering, no doubt about that. But they were not exactly cutting edge technologists. Come to think of it all the significant developments such as rockets and jet propulsion were basically developed by refining 19th century technical knowledge. They were very good in engineering in some projects but the whole Nazi Ufo thing is just to ungrounded for my tastes.

I mean the Reichsflugscheiben are one thing; by building the Avrocar its unpractiability was clearly demonstrated. And that's really the only thing about the whole story that is documented in such a way as to be believable.

reply to post by MrOrange82


I prefer them on jetpacks:

my standard rebutal of the " nazi UFO " claims is simple :

despite the numerous claims of supersonic capable armed vril / disc craft from 1924 to 1945 - why is there zero evidence of any being used in combat ?

the me 262 was a white elephant - it couldnt lanmd or tak off wothout a piston engine fighter CAP - and at altitude / speed it was mobed by adbvanced piston engine allide fighters - out numbered it was ineffective

where were the " super vril craft " ??????????????????

the " natter " rocket interceptor was a joke - 2 minuites endurace - questionable pilot recovery , limited weapons

where were the " vril super craft " ?????????????????

on the ground the volkstrum had expanded its recruitment to 15 ~ 60 YO males the nazi war machine was on its knees

but still it did not usde its` alleged " vril craft " ofensivy or even defensivly why ????????????????

reply to post by NichirasuKenshin


I think we were watching the same. Yours where just the ground troops. Those suits are already in place watch this



YOU CAN SEE THE JET-PACKS HERE

I read somewhere that the Nazi Government made deals with extraterrestrials (Nordic-type aliens to be specific) but the original deal fell through because the Nazis were doing all these killings which the aliens didn't approve

Just throwing that out here, but yes the Nazis were much more advanced in military flying craft technology but did they have any help from otherworlders? Who knows, considering the US government is rumored to be in contact with these aliens, and has reverse-engineered crashed alien technology.

reply to post by ignorant_ape


I would add some questions to that list:

-Where were they built?

-What personnel was recruited?

-What scientists were involved?

-How did the Nazis pay for and obtain esoteric materials?

- Where did they test these things?

-Why didn't any of the upper elechon of Nazism mention "Vril" or "Discs" at any one time in their whole careers?

- How come are Nazi UFO's abent in any literature on the Second World War? And I don't mean historical scholarship but the memories of everyday soldiers. Why did not one Soviet, Brit or American mention them?

- How could the Nazis provide the ressources for production of such craft when every ounce of metals etc. was allocated out in an open, centrally planned system? Wouldn't someone notice that there was a constant amount of raw materials just dissapearing with no discernible allocation? Anyone familiar with the details of how the Nazis directed the war economy will have a big problem explaining how such a secret project would have fit in. The real, documented "secret" technologies give us a hint as to how the Nazis implemented them. By that standard we should have more than just rumors to work with.

reply to post by star in a jar


The Aldebaran theory originated in South America in the 1960's as far as I know and is strongly connected to the myth that Hitler survived the war. In fact I once read a book (bad Nazi fiction from the 70's) in which Adolf Hitler is on his way back from Aldebaran to vanquish the German loss, expected arrival 2028 or so :-)..... I would have to look up who first brought up that idea but I know that it was very quickly accepted and further developed by German Holocaust deniers such as "Germar Rudolf" (one of his many pseudonyms).

If you're interested in this question, you should definetely read Nicholas Goodrick Clark's "Black Sun", it extensively deals with and traces the origins of almost all myths about the Nazis.

Interestingly, I have a book on the subject which I haven't yet finished reading. A book by the name of "Hitler's Flying Saucers" by Henry Stevens. You can see it here:

Amazon

I'm not trying to peddle a book but it may be of interest to some.

Best book on the subject: Dr. Joseph P. Farrell's line of books on Nazi's

Starting with this one; Reich of the Black Sun

reply to post by MrOrange82


Oeh yeah can’t wait till that pulp hits my moviescreen. It’s from the makers of star wreck.



Gonna be epic!

reply to post by bigbomb456


I find Farrell's books among the worst on the subject, but maybe that's just me.

reply to post by copper5661


Have you googled operation highjump and Admiral Byrd ?
There`s a claim that the Nazi`s had secret bases on Antartica with advanced flying machines.

reply to post by NichirasuKenshin


Out of curiosity, which ones have you read? And how so?

reply to post by bigbomb456


I've read all of his books exept for the newest one on finance or whatever. I've certainly read everything coming from him concerning the Nazis.

Mainly I don't like those books because they are partly very badly informed, peddle known hoaxes or present conjectures that are highly suspect in light of other research. I think he is honest and an interesting writer but the fact that he isn't very well versed with the overall history of the Nazis ruins most his books. There's this tendency to jump from one piece of evidence to constructing this grand narrative involving almost everything that isn't tangible. We can discuss individual examples if you're interested.