I need to get this out! Please, heed my call!

reply to post by olle2000


OK, I watched the other video as well, and its facts are extremely off-base. Mason's do not have blood rituals or sacrifices. Most of the Mason's I know do not believe in Darwinism either. We all believe differently, but for most we are Christians that believe in a divine creation and subsequent evolution. Not quite "intelligent design" but something along those lines. There is no such thing as a 27th degree Mason. That is a common misconception. There are only 3 degrees in Masonry. All the other appendent bodies have names or numbers assigned, but they do not make you a "higher ranking" Mason.

You have been duped by some very popular conspiracy rhetoric. No offense to you, it happens sometimes. It has happened to me. Your theory may still have merit, but it requires more than some YouTube videos to support it. Good luck on your research.

reply to post by olle2000


I did watch the videos. I followed every link that you put up. I also must say that I have the entire Gin and Juice uncensored CD on my mp3 player for working out. I must also say that I was listening to this stuff when it first came out. It is almost 20 years old now, and you are just "discovering" it.

It is the "entertainment" industry for a reason!

How can you say any of my post was off-topic? Your videos were about Masonry, Illuminati, Media Industry, and conspiracy. I am a Mason, a government worker (Illuminati? Controller to industry?), and I am a big fan of the music you put up, as well as a lot of music that you never heard of that is directly related and/or predates your links. You didn't even pick the best representations of you own argument? Gin and Juice is tame compared to Murder was the Case or Natural Born Killer.

Come on, step it up some.

Originally posted by getreadyalready
reply to post by olle2000

 

OK, I watched the other video as well, and its facts are extremely off-base. Mason's do not have blood rituals or sacrifices. Most of the Mason's I know do not believe in Darwinism either. We all believe differently, but for most we are Christians that believe in a divine creation and subsequent evolution. Not quite "intelligent design" but something along those lines. There is no such thing as a 27th degree Mason. That is a common misconception. There are only 3 degrees in Masonry. All the other appendent bodies have names or numbers assigned, but they do not make you a "higher ranking" Mason.

You have been duped by some very popular conspiracy rhetoric. No offense to you, it happens sometimes. It has happened to me. Your theory may still have merit, but it requires more than some YouTube videos to support it. Good luck on your research.

Oh, so you are a mason? Then please explain the degrees for us, as the video tells us wrong. I really wanna know!

The bloodrituals they tell you about is symbolic, as much of the things are. You just have to watch and think a step further. They are not supid, as you seem to think. Read some of the links, they have pretty awesome degrees, both the masons, jews, christians, afrivanamerican atheist and the white, secular leaders alike!

If you think about it, you will see that everyone speak about love and hate, positive and negative and different forms, such as god and satan, black and white, good and evil etc. Watch the videos i posted in my op, it explains it very well!

I have not spoken of any cospiracy theory. If you wonder about anything, just ask me. Better alone, watch the videos and think about it. It's all there, you all got the eye!

this stuff also SELLS >> SELLS >> SELLS Big Time $$

its all about money.

for the most part, you will find the same people "manning the barrels" at the bottom of every money-funnel!

ALL outfits that have the power will SELL SELL at all costs!

they don't care who falls as long as their bank accounts RISE!

WHO could these people be? devils? reptiles?

guess again!

heres a link about some of the theories ... warning! it's VERY controversial in today's world !

www.biblebelievers.org.au...

Originally posted by getreadyalready
reply to post by olle2000

 

I did watch the videos. I followed every link that you put up. I also must say that I have the entire Gin and Juice uncensored CD on my mp3 player for working out. I must also say that I was listening to this stuff when it first came out. It is almost 20 years old now, and you are just "discovering" it.

It is the "entertainment" industry for a reason!

How can you say any of my post was off-topic? Your videos were about Masonry, Illuminati, Media Industry, and conspiracy. I am a Mason, a government worker (Illuminati? Controller to industry?), and I am a big fan of the music you put up, as well as a lot of music that you never heard of that is directly related and/or predates your links. You didn't even pick the best representations of you own argument? Gin and Juice is tame compared to Murder was the Case or Natural Born Killer.

Come on, step it up some.

I am not "just discovering" it, I'm just understanding it. I have acquired knew knowledge, which have made me able to see the old material in a new light. And so have you, if you just give it some time, and watch the videos!

The videos, my studies, my time in school, the books I've read, all that have given me the knowledge, which I am more then willing to share.

All the links I have posted can be referred to as empirical facts. Look them up, and understand them. But first, please look at the videos. They will tell you more than I can write here and now.

reply to post by olle2000


The degrees are all over ATS. No need to explain them here. Good luck with your ATS endeavor. Sorry I couldn't slow your roll and get you to delve in a little before jumping in with both feet and only a novice understanding of two or three videos. It will come, but its late, I'm not getting anywhere with you, and I think I'll go to bed now. In all sincerity, good luck, welcome to ATS.

Originally posted by xuenchen
this stuff also SELLS >> SELLS >> SELLS Big Time $$

its all about money.

for the most part, you will find the same people "manning the barrels" at the bottom of every money-funnel!

ALL outfits that have the power will SELL SELL at all costs!

they don't care who falls as long as their bank accounts RISE!

WHO could these people be? devils? reptiles?

guess again!

heres a link about some of the theories ... warning! it's VERY controversial in today's world !

www.biblebelievers.org.au...

They are not reptiles or devils. The money is just paper. We are all the same, have you forgotten?

I quote, "What if we were all put under a spell. A spell that made us sleepy and half aware, a spell that made us greedy, selfish bastards when we could be the opposite. A spell so powerful that it literally changed reality and made Sh+t as valuable as gold, and gold as valuable as life itself. Imagine a spell of almost infinite complexity, a spell that made us believe paper is worthier than both words and emotions, a spell that evolved and got stronger, the spell that puts the few in power over the many and kept us from peace."

Originally posted by getreadyalready
reply to post by olle2000

 

I've alerted the Mods. This is not an introduction thread, and the fact that you posted an identical post in other threads is off topic and a violation of T and C.

If you are truly concerned, follow the regulations and assert your case properly. Pay your dues, find threads with similar information and participate. Otherwise ATS may not be a good fit for you.

Are you serious?

Don't be a rent-a-mod.

This person has something to say. Let them say it. You have every right to disagree, but you don't have to be like that.

Originally posted by getreadyalready
reply to post by olle2000

 

The degrees are all over ATS. No need to explain them here. Good luck with your ATS endeavor. Sorry I couldn't slow your roll and get you to delve in a little before jumping in with both feet and only a novice understanding of two or three videos. It will come, but its late, I'm not getting anywhere with you, and I think I'll go to bed now. In all sincerity, good luck, welcome to ATS.

Thanks, but I prefer that people learn some things themselves. I am not like a TV, that want to mash opinions in your mind and consciousness. I prefer that you look it up yourself, the links are all in the links I posted, just a few clicks away.

reply to post by yadda333


I alerted the Mods, because the OP got around the 20 post minimum by going into the Intro board, and he posted the exact same intro in other threads where it was extremely off-topic. He is a brand new member, and it is late on a Friday night. If this was some viral campaign or something sinister, then the Mods needed to act quickly.

Turns out he is just a naive kid that is very motivated by his belief. The Mods only acted to remove the off-topic stuff in the other thread. No harm. Better to be safe than sorry. Have you ever tried to read the comments on other boards? Every other post is an advertisement for t-shirts or websites, and it impossible to get through them. Maybe I am a rent-a-mod, but hopefully all ATSers take the time to moderate our forum and keep out the riffraff.

BTW OP, "empirical evidence" can be verified by any number of sources. YouTube videos and wikipedia pages are certainly not "evidence" of anything. They are not even adequate sources for typical college papers. If you are currently in school as you say, you might want to check with your professors before turning in shoddy work like this.

One of the families who came here with the Bronfmans was the Pritzker. They own Hyatt (en.wikipedia.org...), a company wich has a lot of federal reserve notes. Remember symbology and the polysemantic messaging? Read about it, it's very useful and good knowledge.

A recommend this very well written book; books.google.se... 1&ved=0CCwQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q&f=false
The really good part starts around p. 156, he tells the story about a couple of jews, driven out of Russia...

If you are a mason, why don't you share us your knowledge about their degrees. If the video tells us wrong, please tell us the correct info. I am tired of living in this halfwitted illusion, were I get no explanations! If you are going to tell we wrong, also tell me what's right.

Like I said, it's easy to neglect something when you don't know anything about it.

Originally posted by getreadyalready
reply to post by yadda333

 

I alerted the Mods, because the OP got around the 20 post minimum by going into the Intro board, and he posted the exact same intro in other threads where it was extremely off-topic. He is a brand new member, and it is late on a Friday night. If this was some viral campaign or something sinister, then the Mods needed to act quickly.

Turns out he is just a naive kid that is very motivated by his belief. The Mods only acted to remove the off-topic stuff in the other thread. No harm. Better to be safe than sorry. Have you ever tried to read the comments on other boards? Every other post is an advertisement for t-shirts or websites, and it impossible to get through them. Maybe I am a rent-a-mod, but hopefully all ATSers take the time to moderate our forum and keep out the riffraff.

BTW OP, "empirical evidence" can be verified by any number of sources. YouTube videos and wikipedia pages are certainly not "evidence" of anything. They are not even adequate sources for typical college papers. If you are currently in school as you say, you might want to check with your professors before turning in shoddy work like this.

The empirical evidence I am talking about can be found in alot of books, biographies, wikipedia articles, websites etc. It is facts, no theories about anything. Look it up! There is even a link to a family tree there (en.wikipedia.org...) and a book about the topic posted above here.

Are you telling me these people don't exist? That their families don't exist? That they are not married to other persons, with which they have many children?

Maby these children ain't in powerful- and key positions in corporations that owns virtually everything? What do I have to prove? The facts have already been posted, several times.

This is not an ad on TV or a forum, this is facts. The truth is hard to discredit. This is not like Charles Darwins theory of evolution, this is facts about todays business and your everyday life! Search for knowledge, get illuminated, that way your system, god, soul, consciousness, mind, brain power, Allah whatever evolves.

You should read the following thread, which was written by one of our moderators. Maxmars.

So who owns our media sources? - An unanswered ATS LIVE! UK/Euro question,

He writes about another angle on the same topic.

Welcome to ATS

~ Sinter

Heres an interesting documentary I came across on this subject, enjoy.

www.moviesfoundonline.com...


"Starsuckers is the most controversial documentary of the year, and was released in British cinemas in November 2009 to critical acclaim. It's a darkly humourous and shocking exposé of the celebrity obsessed media, that uncovers the real reasons behind our addiction to fame and blows the lid on the corporations and individuals who profit from it. Directed by Chris Atkins, BAFTA nominated for Taking Liberties, Starsuckers exploded into the news in October when it emerged that the team had been selling fake celebrity stories to all the British Tabloids. This became a news sensation in it's own right, and was followed by the darker revelation that Atkins had secretly filmed four journalists for three Sunday tabloids trying to buy medical records. The filmmakers also stung Max Clifford, who the film shows boasting about his clients on undercover camera. When Clifford found out, he hired the infamous law firm Carter Ruck and threatened to injunct the film which would have prevented it's release. The film ends with a damning critique of Bob Geldof's Live Aid and the star-studded Live 8 concerts in 2005."

reply to post by olle2000


Awesome thread! Star and flag for you
Just remember, no one can buy or sell anyone or anything that was never for sale in
the first (Furst) place. Lying fine print and crooked contracts are null and void, I will tell you why!
Words have more than one meaning........in any language
Free will, knowingly, willingly and of our own free will to know the implications, effects and
consequences of our actions......we are supposed to have been kicked out of EDEN by G*D
for eating of the fruit from the tree of knowledge, how can we know what every word means
when there are so many languages? When words have more than one meaning? Ignorance of
the law is no excuse some would say? I say bull caca!

Ignorance is a state of being uninformed (lack of knowledge). The word "ignorant" is an adjective describing a person in the state of being unaware and is often used as an insult. "Ignoramus" is commonly used in the UK and Ireland as a name of someone who is overwhemingly ignorant.

Ignorance should be distinguished from stupidity, although both can lead to "unwise" acts. Also, if important information is available, one may fail to acquire it due to lack of intelligence (not realizing its importance, or not understanding it).

Writer Thomas Pynchon articulated about the scope and structure of one's ignorance: "Ignorance is not just a blank space on a person's mental map. It has contours and coherence, and for all I know rules of operation as well. So as a corollary to [the advice of] writing about what we know, maybe we should add getting familiar with our ignorance, and the possibilities therein for writing a good story."[1]

The legal principle that ignorantia juris non excusat, literally "ignorance of the law is no excuse", stands for the proposition that the law applies also to those who are unaware of it.

Who's Law? Creator's Law or someone who would want to be AS the creator?
THINK ABOUT IT!

en.wikipedia.org...

Do I sound completely mad? Should I lock myself in before I hurt someone with my words of knowledge? Am I a totally retarded nutcase?

Please, I am not kidding. Answer me.

Originally posted by olle2000
Do I sound completely mad? Should I lock myself in before I hurt someone with my words of knowledge? Am I a totally retarded nutcase?

Please, I am not kidding. Answer me.

No, you're onto something. See people don't like truth because they feel they always have to be right. such as typing any phrase will automatically inflict the "self's" world to think that what you're saying is, "What I am writing is truth"

The ego, it cannot understand this because it chooses to create conspiracy-emotions based on the information and relate it to it's own world, the one in your head. Hence the ego, either inwards or outwards, see the "truth" in different dimensions and can also confuse itself with the you.

Therefore, everyone is skeptical at the information at first, some will deny. But with wide attention and patience, things will soon shatter their worlds only to see the bigger picture.

what about 2pac? Killuminati. Ah, our savior got capped

reply to post by olle2000


There are may many threads about this very thing, and I'm sure someone has already shared your youtube video. There are many, many good videos -- I would challenge anyone who thinks this is hogwash to search the Illuminati here on ATS and watch the documentaries/read all you can stand.

This really belongs in the secret societies forum..... And if you look there you may find more fuel for your fire.

Nice job finding an unknown name to tie to the Illuminati. We all know the major ones -- Rockefeller, Rothschild.... etc.

To all those that do not believe, and say conspiracies are easy to fabricate. It is quite clear that you have not done your research. The free mason/illuminati symbolism is evident all over the US in every aspect of the media, and all over historical buildings. It's on our MONEY!

This is only a part of the plan - dumbing down the population.... You have got to ask yourself. Why would they want this? The answer is NWO - one world government. All the "conspiracies" tie together it all makes sense once you do your research -- so do more research!

Why would anyone so apposed to conspiracy theories belong to a website like this anyway.... I saw that someone wrote that conspiracy theorists need to get a life... What would you tell yourself then, your really in trouble if your hobby is trolling around and telling people they are lame.

reply to post by olle2000


Check this one out too. (since we are sharing videos that have been shared)



www.youtube.com...

There are 2 part ones and two part twos, It plays in English up until part 6.... If you hate cliff hangers you may not want to watch it.