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Originally posted by The Shrike
Every other week someone starts a thread here on Aliens and UFOs trying to mix "aliens" and human religions to which I do not subscribe and state my feelings about the subject.
Originally posted by CitizenNum287119327
The currents and eddies can bring some fortuitous moments.
The mind will relate like shapes with others in it's memory.
I think it is just coincidence and another one of those beautiful moments that the world gives us to enjoy (but few appreciate - or read too much into)?
question mark courtesy of 'The Cloud Appreciation Society'
Originally posted by enkira
Originally posted by The Shrike
Every other week someone starts a thread here on Aliens and UFOs trying to mix "aliens" and human religions to which I do not subscribe and state my feelings about the subject.
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those manifested abberrations (ufo crosses) could be what they are, crosses fomed by ufos'...and i dont find any problem with that...ets/aliens/ufo's are realities that we humans are just now started to sink in our pscyche...slowly and surely...concepts of gods, religion hell, paradise, faith,, day of judgement dogmas and crosses are check valves for "them" to evaluate how far we have improved in our psychological development in terms of how to deal with them...
Possibly 90% of those who study UFOs want them to exist and would be nothing less than delighted to find they contained genuine extra-terrestrial visitors.
Perhaps that phenomenon even accounts for a significant percentage of the evidence.
Anyone with any scientific training, though, is quickly frustrated by the tantalising quality of the evidence available. It is - to date at least - never quite enough to substantiate the UFOs beyond reasonable doubt and yet is often not flimsy enough to dismiss out of hand. In any case, it is not my purpose here to discuss any evidence.
Originally posted by airspoon
I only see lights that could be intepreted as a cross. In fact, there is nothing to even say that they are "flying" or up in the air. That could simply be an array of LEDs through the fog. Most likely, it's a sign with lights in the formation of a cross that is in the distance, probably not in the sky at all. Of course it could be ET sent from heaven, but I think it's far more probable that it is something more worldly and natural in nature, maybe even embellished a little to fool viewers.
--airspoon
Originally posted by airspoon
reply to post by The Shrike
(snip)I don't believe that the Romans used a simple stake, at least in the times of Christ's alleged death and there is even evidence (I believe) that they used more than just a simple stake, though I'd have to do a little research to confirm it (I'm just talking from the top of my head).
Originally posted by Califemme
Thanks for posting about this. I guess I am a believer, if for no other reason than I see the beauty of God in everyday life. I can say I have gone back and forth on this issue, I wonder did people come from aliens? I've researched a lot of differing theories. The one I find most compelling comes from Fatima Portugal, otherwise known as the Miracle at Fatima. The Virgin Mary told these 3 little children that there is anger in Heaven and there would be signs from God, more specifically she said:
"You have seen hell where the souls of poor sinners go. To save them, God wishes to establish in the world devotion to my Immaculate Heart. If what I say to you is done, many souls will be saved and there will be peace. The war is going to end: but if people do not cease offending God, a worse one will break out during the Pontificate of Pius XI. When you see a night illuminated by an unknown light, know that this is the great sign given you by God that he is about to punish the world for its crimes, by means of war, famine, and persecutions of the Church and of the Holy Father. "
I guess my point is, are these signs from Heaven that we need to open our eyes and hearts to Him? Isn't it kinda freaky that the Pope came out and said that if there aliens, they too are God's children? Why DOES the Vatican have a $500,000,000.00 telescope? Who knows. Of all the stories of doom and gloom, this one sticks with me the most. What do you think?edit on 8-10-2010 by Califemme because: Forgot to leave a point to all of it
Only religius believers can accept what you suggest since it is all articles of faith and do not affect those that are not mentally conditioned to accept religion control. The pope is not a special person, he was born in the same way you and I were. He was educated just as we were, learning from past history. Whatever he says is only for those religious believers who accept his words as authority over their lives. That Vatican telescope, BTW, was probably paid with American taxpayers money since a huge amount of taxpayers' money is given to the Vatican, usually covertly. We're talking trillion$!
Originally posted by Califemme
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Thanks for responding. Yeah, like I said, I'm in constant flux re the origins of human life. But I do find it weird that so many things in the Bible can be correlated to UFOs (bible-ufo.com), so I figure why couldn't God have created aliens too. And then there's this from the Bible:
"Luke 21:25 (King James Version) 25And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;"
Kinda sounds like what we are witnessing world wide.
Also, in Revelations, it (basically) says that the apocalypse will happen after after a war with Israel, and that too, seems to be coming true. Iran sure seems pretty bent on "wiping them off the map" and I'm not sure how that happens without nuclear weapons. All of that info also seems to be falling into line with these doomsday prophecies, so I am "believeing" out of pure faith and hope that there is a God. I even say an extra prayer for my hubby, because he, like you is an atheist. I'm trying to get him to be more agnostic, but he just thinks it's all voodoo anyways. Oh well, at least we'll know soon about WW3, and the visit from aliens on October 13!!
Just to be safe, I think I'll say a prayer (voodoo!!) for you too, and maybe my empathy will help get you in with the Lord, you know, just in case