Obamacare Waivers - Starting with McDonalds and Teachers Unions

reply to post by FlyersFan


Yes I don't think this healthcare bill is destined to live. While I agree with some aspects of it, ie prohibiting insurance companies from refusing people, children based on silly pre-existing conditions, I do believe the mandatory healthcare coverage is unworkable. I believe we actually had a chance with the public option for those people who are absolutely out of chance to be covered, it's too bad corporate sponsored Dems got to it before it even had legs.

I do see healthcare reform further down in the future. We cannot and will not continue with the healthcare industry in this state, whether or without this new healthcare law.

Originally posted by Flatfish
listening to anything that Michelle Malkin has to say is like listening to Glenn Beck or Rush Limbaugh, they just don't cut it for me. Way too many false statements.

Was her list wrong? Are any of the corporations etc who are listed getting massive waivers NOT getting them? From what I can see .. it's an accurate MASSIVE waiver listing.

reply to post by Southern Guardian

Lots of good stuff in the reform. Lots of not so good. But yep ... it is unsustainable.

reply to post by FlyersFan


oh look, big business, big labor, and big government get to opt out of THE LAW. what a surprise....

so that means the little guy can opt out too right?


s&f


REPEAL OBAMACARE IN 2011
REPEAL OBAMA IN 2012

or your constitution is going to be repealed soon enough.

111 waivers!!! I know my employer didn't get one. They dropped our cadillac plan, raised premiums, co pays and deductibles. I now get less coverage for more money. Yeah!!!

I see a lot of unions getting special attention!! If the law was so good they wouldn't need to issue special waivers!!!

Originally posted by jibeho
I see a lot of unions getting special attention!!

Of course. The Obama administration is buying the vote with entitlements and waivers. The more waivers that go out .. and there are hundreds of thousands of people now on waivers through their business/corporation/union ... the more unsustainable obamacare is.

It was not easy but I finally found the actual list of companies receiving a little nod, nudge, and a wink from the WH.

www.hhs.gov...

UPDATE

The Hill - Oversight subpanel to look into health reform waivers medical malpractice

"If there are exemptions,” Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-S.C.) told The Hill, “what was the process by which those exemptions were sought and given?”

GOP Investigating Obamacare Waiver-Mania

The House GOP is stepping up to the plate. Newcomers on the congressional oversight subcommittee on health will probe the who, what, when, where, and why of the Obama administration’s HHS Obamacare waiver program.

reply to post by FlyersFan

So, the people who were against it, are stuck with it . . . .
while the people that were for it, don't have to get it.

Got it.

(just wish they had a "sobbing hysterically" icon)
S+F

reply to post by FlyersFan


Glad you brought this topic back up!! I just finished reading this article regarding Obama's holy land of Chicago and some chicanery involving SEIU and Obamacare waivers

Yes three SEIU waivers

three local chapters of the Service Employees International Union (SEIU), whose political action committee spent $27 million supporting Barack Obama in the 2008 presidential election, have received temporary waivers from a provision in the Obamacare law.

The three SEIU chapters include the Local 25 in Obama’s hometown of Chicago.

The SEIU, with more than 2 million members nationally, includes health care workers, janitors, security guards, and state and local government workers.

The three SEIU locals, covering a total of 36,064 enrollees, are covered by the federal waivers, according to the Department of Health and Human Services.

HHS gave a waiver to Local 25 SEIU in Chicago with 31,000 enrollees on Oct. 1, 2010; to Local 1199 SEIU Greater New York Benefit Fund with 4,544 enrollees on Oct. 10, 2010; and to the SEIU Local 1 Cleveland Welfare Fund with 520 enrollees on Nov. 15, 2010.

So far, the Obama administration has issued waivers to 222 entities, including businesses, unions and charitable organizations. Of that total, 45 were labor organizations.

A total of 1,507,418 enrollees are now included in the waivers. More than one-third -- 512,315 – of the enrollees affected were insured by union health plans.

More than 1/3 of those included in the waivers are insure by union health plans!!!! The unions have certainly landed their man in the White House and will pull out all of the stops to reelect in 2012. Gotta keep this gravy train rolling.

cnsnews.com...

Originally posted by Flatfish

If you take the profit out of the health insurance industry, which by the way also eliminates their incentive to deny claims, you could use that profit to cover a hell of a lot of people. Single payer or a public option would have gone a long way towards accomplishing that goal but somehow they got refused a seat at the table, remember?

Another one that failed or skipped Economics 101. Innovation and expansion are funded by those (pesky) profits. You like healthcare exactly the way it is now, or worse than it is now? then go right ahead and get rid of profits. Who will then pay for research into new drugs and treatments? It won't be the government, because remember it is broke. So naive ...

Lastly, I got to tell you that listening to anything that Michelle Malkin has to say is like listening to Glenn Beck or Rush Limbaugh, they just don't cut it for me. Way too many false statements.

Like to play shoot the messenger instead of dealing with the message much? Easy to say "false statements", tough to actually list them out.

So check this out if you dare, and tell me if you will go along with the takeover of the USA by muslums.

Subject: Dhimmitude

Word of the Day: Dhimmitude

Dhimmitude is the Muslim system of controlling non-Muslim populations conquered through jihad. Specifically, it is the TAXING of non-Muslims in exchange for tolerating their presence AND as a coercive means of converting conquered remnants to Islam.

The ObamaCare bill is the establishment of Dhimmitude and Sharia Muslim diktat in the United States. Muslims are specifically exempted from the government mandate to purchase insurance, and also from the penalty tax for being uninsured. Islam considers insurance to be "gambling", "risk-taking" and "usury" and is thus banned. Muslims are specifically granted exemption based on this. How convenient. So I, Ann Barnhardt, a Christian, will have crippling IRS liens placed against all of my assets, including real estate, cattle, and even accounts receivables, and will face hard prison time because I refuse to buy insurance or pay the penalty tax. Meanwhile, Louis Farrakhan will have no such penalty and will have 100% of his health needs paid for by the de facto government insurance. Non-Muslims will be paying a tax to subsidize Muslims. Period. This is Dhimmitude.

Dhimmitude serves two purposes: it enriches the Muslim masters AND serves to drive conversions to Islam. In this case, the incentive to convert to Islam will be taken up by those in the inner-cities as well as the godless Generation X, Y and Z types who have no moral anchor. If you don't believe in Christ to begin with, it is no problem whatsoever to sell Him for 30 pieces of silver. "Sure, I'll be a Muslim if it means free health insurance and no taxes. Where do I sign, bro?"

I recommend sending this post to your contacts. This is desperately important and people need to know about it - quickly.

reply to post by Janky Red


Yep and just since Obamacare, my premiums rose 200 dollars a MONTH.

reply to post by Plotus


Like I've said before, the POTUS is faux Christian. Also there is the issue of the AIG baillout which occurred also under the watchful care of the faux. Tim Geithner was involved in AIG as well, and this administration approved tax payer funded baillout of the most Sharia compliant ins co in the States. Breittbart's BIgGovernment site has archives on a lawsuit.