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How do we take back our world?

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posted on Oct, 7 2010 @ 08:32 PM
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This question has been asked time and time again throughout history. According to the Norman Dodd conspiracy crowd WW1 was orchestrated as a vehicle for world change by the elite banking community to which Dodd belonged. The cargo aboard the Lusitania which was sunk in 1915 and brought America into the war consisted of more than four million rounds of U.S.-manufactured Remington .303 bullets owned by JP Morgan bound for England.



We are now at the year nineteen hundred and eight, which was the year that the Carnegie Foundation began operations. And, in that year, the trustees meeting, for the first time, raised a specific question, which they discussed throughout the balance of the year, in a very learned fashion. And the question is this: Is there any means known more effective than war, assuming you wish to alter the life of an entire people? And they conclude that, no more effective means to that end is known to humanity, than war. So then, in 1909, they raise the second question, and discuss it, namely, how do we involve the United States in a war?


www.supremelaw.org...



posted on Oct, 7 2010 @ 08:34 PM
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Please, fellow ATSers, listen closely.

This is how revolutions begin. You gather people under a single banner of just cause and you fight to the death if need be, God forbid it should come to that.

I ask you, fellow ATSers and citizens of the world, message your local moderator. Petition to the staff of this website to have this thread stickied at the very least. The world needs to be informed and we have the power to start that movement. It is not a new idea, but it must be refeshed in the minds of people from time to time.

Every generation has their fight to fight. This is ours.

The fight for today is to get this thread to be read by as many members of ATS as possible, the fight for tomorrow is to spread the word to the rest of the world. I believe we have had some really good posts here and I would like that to continue.

Petition to have this thread stickied.



posted on Oct, 7 2010 @ 08:36 PM
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Originally posted by Modern Americana

Originally posted by Scalded Frog
The original American Revolutionists had one huge advantage. There were able to put an ocean between themselves and their oppressive government.


That is very true. Very wise statement.

It may be infinitely more difficult for a revolution in the United States to have any affect because it is right here at home. Still, we had a Civil War here at home and we survived that. People thought we wouldn't survive the American Revolution, we went against the strongest power in the world. Then people thought the United States would split in half during the Civil War era. We prospered thereafter and became a superpower after WWI.

Still, we are at a major disadvantage today because of technology. They can track us down with GPS, and they can hunt us with technology we don't even know about. We are very limited when it comes to weapons to fight back with since it has basically become illegal to own anything above a .45.

At least we have guns. Our brothers in the UK don't have guns. The military has all of the guns. How are they supposed to fight back? This does not look good at all...


Don't worry; the people and the globalist elite have advantages in different areas: We have guerrilla warfare and a low-tech leaderless army while the globalists have high-tech armies of stormtroopers.

Best to use your advantages and know your limitations. Use every form of unconventional warfare available, to the point of assassinating the one world order leadership.



posted on Oct, 7 2010 @ 08:40 PM
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There are plenty of threads like this already - but they are always welcome in my book.

Theres no sense fighting an enemy if you havent conquered yourself first though.


The all pervading problem with the world is neoliberal/laissez-faire capitalism, fighting this is the key.

As I said earlier in my first post in this thread.

Boycott and Divest from the big corporations as much as possible, get your own house in order - then go after others.

Communitarianism is a good thing to work towards.



posted on Oct, 7 2010 @ 08:45 PM
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Thank you for reading, And you are most welcome
Take care

Love and peace

Rick



posted on Oct, 7 2010 @ 08:48 PM
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Well I only mentioned it because I didn't see a thread like this stickied. I am not asking this of people for my own benefit, I have very little to benefit compared to what the world can benefit once this movement seriously starts moving forward.



posted on Oct, 7 2010 @ 08:57 PM
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The problem is enough of us have to wake the puck up.............pure and simple.

So many sleepers in the Matrix.

Until enough of us wake TFU..........we are doomed.

Why?

Because, we alone are nothing........togeather, united, we are "god".

Sorry, that's my spin on this subject.

Strange but true, together we are a united front. Alone we are nothing.

Enough of us have not awaken yet.



posted on Oct, 7 2010 @ 09:23 PM
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Critical mass is important to make the structural change the world needs.

Anyone who understands this needs to make the alternative to what we have currently seem cooler (which it already is).

I was thinking the otherday, wether some people are just genetically/karmically programmed to be sheep, ands its up to the white-hats to take over from the black-hats and make them the marginal element in society.

Infact! I just made a thread about it
Are some people Genetically and/or Karmically programmed to be Sheeple?



posted on Oct, 7 2010 @ 10:12 PM
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I have decided to become a Firefighter instead of a Police officer.

For the very few that know me here, this will come as a shock to you. It was a dream of mine for nearly a decade to be a Police Officer, and recently I wanted to prove people wrong by showing them that not all cops are bad.

Now, however, after having a bit of forsight and seeing what is going to happen in the future, I don't want to be used as a tool against the people that I love.

And I pick Firefighter because I want to save lives and help people for a living, something that up until a couple days ago I thought I could do as a Police Officer.

It tears me up inside and angers me to the core, but I wont allow myself to be subjugated to having to suit up in riot gear when TSHTF. I will not arrest people for protesting, I will not do it.



posted on Oct, 7 2010 @ 10:20 PM
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How do we take it back?

Start trusting in God, the correct way.



posted on Oct, 7 2010 @ 10:25 PM
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Either:Or - it doesnt hurt to have someone on the inside - and on the other hand, do you think you have the emotional and mental fortitude to remain pure when surrounded and subjected to conditioning and bastardisation etc



posted on Oct, 7 2010 @ 10:30 PM
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I know I will always have the ideals I have now, I have had them for awhile and they are the only things that I know that are pure in this world. I don't know if I am capable of putting up with the things that will happen when TSHTF. I will either take the coward's way out and end it there, or die fighting for my ideals.

That is the only future I can see now. Where did our innocence go to?



posted on Oct, 7 2010 @ 10:32 PM
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After recently watching a video called "The Secret of Oz" (link to Youtube) I became convinced that the first step in regaining control of our world, as the OP put it, is to destroy those people who control money. I highly suggest watching the video because it does wonderful job of going through much of the history of monetary systems, including showing just how far the money controllers will go to maintain their stranglehold over currency.

They have orchestrated wars, had great men assassinated, manipulated elections, and myriad of other sinister things in order to sustain and tighten their grip over the monetary system. I believe that some economic struggles in the past, including perhaps our current economic situation as well, were likely the intentional product of the money controllers. In the video it shows how, over the course of history since the time of the Roman empire, a small group of people went to great lengths to control money. Any time a powerful government managed to or attempted to produce it's own currency, as opposed to currency being produced by a private central bank run by these powerful people, the government controlled currency was eventually put to an end by various means.

The controllers of money must be dealt with somehow. Ideally, what we need is for the people in our federal government to grow some balls and stop taking orders from the men behind the curtain. In the United States they need to abolish the Federal Reserve and establish a government controlled currency. Make the money worth something. I was fascinated by something in the movie that related to past attempts at such a concept. In one case in the United Kingdom, one form of government backed currency was nothing more than wood sticks (Tally Sticks) which were used to pay taxes. So while the material value of the currency itself was essentially nothing, the fact that the government backed and the people had faith in the government was enough to make that currency hold value.

I believe that the only way such a change could happen in the United States would be if our government came together under the common goal of putting the Federal Reserve out of existence. It cannot happen if only one of the major political parties feels that way because the other party will simply rally against such a massive issue, likely by spreading deception in order to convince voters that we cannot survive without a central bank. Even if, by some miracle, the major parties did come together though, I would not be surprised if some tragic event(s) took place to eliminate those who would stand in the way of the controllers. They will not be denied, and will kill those who do not comply with their demands.

So there's my answer. Destroy the central banks. Make them illegal. Once that's done we can go from there. Hopefully many of the aspects of our world which seem bleak right now will improve on their own as a result of such a positive change to our economies and monetary systems.



posted on Oct, 8 2010 @ 07:22 PM
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The Jekyll island monster from the early 1900's is just one example of what happens when a group of aquisitors decides an entire generation is expendable in a world war as long as they can make a buck off it. We can be sure that the current wealthy PTB are a lot safer than JP Morgan was out on his yacht. Of course no main stream media will ever be allowed to reveal anything that would unsettle the masses or risk starting any potential resistance movement. It is probably better just to drop out rather than risk ending up as a hired gun. As other posters have said just help out where you can. Try to teach critical thinking skills while learning to be patient and tolerant as the MSM trolls for negative reactions.



posted on Oct, 8 2010 @ 08:24 PM
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I just thought of something...

If there were to be another American Revolution, would that start WWIII? I can imagine that the allies of the United States would side with the Government, and while the United States is preoccupied, China, Russia, Iran, and North Korea would take it upon themselves to spread their influence.

I really do hope the UK, France, and Germany side with the American people if TSHTF.



posted on Oct, 9 2010 @ 04:56 PM
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We need more people like you. A service to others vs service to self.



Stay safe.



posted on Oct, 9 2010 @ 05:35 PM
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Originally posted by Modern Americana
Recently I have awoke from a blinding slumber to a world completely manipulated by a group of elites. Now, everything makes sense. Everything, that is, but one thing.

How do we take back our world?

To you fellow residents of the United States, how do we take back our country?

I have a feeling it starts with taking back the United States, and the rest will follow suit. Seeing as how many revolutions around the world began because of the American Revolution's success, I am fairly confident that it will happen again. Once people wake up as I have, things will be that much easier. Still, I don't have a clue how to take back control, assuming we ever had control in the first place.

I wont be a leader in this revolution, obviously, but I wont blindly follow anyone to my death either. I must know, how do YOU suppose we go about bringing real change?



Be in the world but not of it. You will need a document shredder. But actually, you will have to make it official that you no longer choose to participate.



posted on Oct, 9 2010 @ 05:40 PM
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Originally posted by Modern Americana
I have decided to become a Firefighter instead of a Police officer.

For the very few that know me here, this will come as a shock to you. It was a dream of mine for nearly a decade to be a Police Officer, and recently I wanted to prove people wrong by showing them that not all cops are bad.

Now, however, after having a bit of forsight and seeing what is going to happen in the future, I don't want to be used as a tool against the people that I love.

And I pick Firefighter because I want to save lives and help people for a living, something that up until a couple days ago I thought I could do as a Police Officer.



What will you do when a house is burning and the victim has not paid his $75.00 subscription fee? What if the chief says "no water"? What if all your buds are standing around watching the house burn because they are ordered to do so? What will be your stand then? Will you commit yourself to obedience of a corrupt system?



posted on Oct, 9 2010 @ 06:52 PM
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you are most wise ghostsoldier I love you posts and I am wholeheartedly behind you

OP you are very passionate about this it looks like you have found you calling we all need to contribute what we know and can do to this ,and we need to recognize that everyone has been tasked and support each other as much as possible



posted on Oct, 9 2010 @ 06:57 PM
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If I had no water and the house was burning, I would make sure there was nothing alive in there by asking others. If there were something alive in there, like a pet or something, I would go in there by myself if I had to. I can't save the house by myself, but I can make a difference.

That is my stand.



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