ATLANTIS FOUND near Florida (my theory)

Originally posted by Ben81
that Atlantis is in the Atlantic ocean .. (oddly named for a ocean)

Why is it oddly named?

I found something else about the circular ring shape of Atlantis.


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And one of the most ancient carwings perticular sheme is this.


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And this:

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The channel is as long as described by Plato related to the size of the city.

They were a culture. Just as we are. It was not just one city, they were said to left remnants all over the world. (Including America). The real key is finding their records. (Some are under the left paw of the sphinx its said). It is dreamy to think of one lost city, however... There are many citys. And lots of gold at the bottom of the ocean. Edgar Cayce seemed to know a lot of the atlantians history. You might want to check that out. Also. I'm sure if you find a map of what the world would look like with the material magnetic flip, it may lead to a lot of good ideas on your theory (which may hold truth)...


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Perhaps we should look into the origin stories of the famous cultures from this area, and try to find something similar or a similar structure which may exist. First thing we need to do is make a list of the cultures/socities that we known of that lived in the America's e.g. Aztec, Mayan

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They were said to be a very clean culture, using crystals for energy and so on, using horses and earth resources. So why would there be many remnants? For a culture so advanced. Our unadvanced minds can't grasp that much would not be left from them.


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Found this post in another thread, thought it was relevant

Yeah the egyptian supposedly made some cave like structures that they mysteriously built into the side of the grand canyon and then abandoned. The only souce pertaining to this story is and article in some arizona newspaper from 1920. It is wideley believed to be a hoax. I tend to agree. The other native americans in the southwest US haven't got any stories relating to egyptians either.

That being said, I am totally open to egyptians or greeks or romans, getting lost at sea cought in some curretn and then ending up stranded on the central or southern american coastline. Maybe even some basic and modest trade between the old world and new. But I don't think that by and large the civilizations didn't mix, and if they did which I feel could be a possibility would be on a small and intermitant rate.

The Olmecs are intruiging. They left huge monolithic boulders carved in the faces of their leaders. Most initial reactions to the discovery of these boulders back in the 19th, and 20th century were that the faces depicted Negroid people most likely from the west coast of africa. However, the theory was later dropped by the mainsteam archeaologists, and social anthropologists. Some still hold to the older belief that they are in fact african faces being depicted, becuase the locals still don't have facial features like the ones depicted.

The aztecs and others depicted their gods of being fair in skin color (white) and with beards. In rituals, and religious ceremonies they would impersonate the gods by wearing beards. Now this is interesting because native americans can't grow facial hair and supposedly never were in contact until much later with the spanish and portugues that had facial hair. Where did they get the idea, who did they meet that grew facial hair way before they were "discovered" by the europeans? Why did they greet the Spanish as gods until they figured out later thatthese were not the same people that were their gods from earlier.

Leaves a lot open for pondering.

I also heard rumors that there was a sunken trade/ small cargo ship of roman or greek origen found in some lagoon or river opening in the south americas.

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check this out and draw line through center see where it leads ya;-]
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or try this link for atlantis
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Originally posted by iterationzero

Originally posted by Ben81
that Atlantis is in the Atlantic ocean .. (oddly named for a ocean)

Why is it oddly named?

because the similarity between both names ..
there is only a S and a C for the difference
maybe the Atlantic ocean was named for some good reason ..

Yes after Atlantis
coincidential or not ?

reply to post by Ben81


Great Thread! s&f

I heard that if you try to look at some areas of the bermuda triangle on google earth or one of the other programs that it has been blurred out.... Very suspicious?

Also there are tight flight restrictions over the areas outlined in your OP. Makes sense that on an unusually clear day someone might accidentally look down and see something extraordinary.

I speculate that atlantis is still active, and that ET beings may still use it as a portal or stargate...

Originally posted by Ben81

Originally posted by iterationzero

Originally posted by Ben81
that Atlantis is in the Atlantic ocean .. (oddly named for a ocean)

Why is it oddly named?

because the similarity between both names ..
there is only a S and a C for the difference
maybe the Atlantic ocean was named for some good reason ..

Yes after Atlantis
coincidential or not ?

Not coincidental, but also not one derived from the other. They come from the same root: Atlas.

Atlantis = from the Greek, "daughter of Atlas"

Atlantic = from the Latin, "Atlanticus", from the Greek "Atlantikos", which is the adjectival form of Atlas, specifically referring to Mt. Atlas in this case.

Correlation does not imply causality.

reply to post by Karmayogi11


The circle layers surounding the center of the city ..
its logic ..
for perfect Irrigation and protection
i have in mind that the city .. was round ...
but with many circles layers encircling it .. is very interesting

the old picture .. who maybe represent Atlantis ..
i have read another thread about those lookalike spiral
that happen in the sky ..that are prior to huge event

i think the one who discovered the circle meaning was Lucus

rajaten posted a nice thread about him and his theories

Lucus And The Return Of Planet X!

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The place you mentioned is called the "Temple of Isis" and it is a real place but has been sealed off and is now protected behind a fence and sign saying "Do not trespass Govt property". Supposedly according to the Arizona Gazette from the 1930's the temple contained many hallways that branched off into other hallways or rooms. Some of the rooms were explored and said to contain both Egyptian and Roman armor and weapons and many other tools. As soon as the Smithsonian heard about it they sent people to investigate and after they were done with it they had it sealed so no one would know the truth and people would only know what the Smithsonian told them. This is just a story but, a cover up for something of this historical importantance. Sounds like mainstream science not wanting the world to know the truth because it contradicts their works and beliefs. Same goes for Atlantis, the Sphinx and the Great Pyramid, and many other structures and lost cities around the world.

As for the Plato story of Atlantis it goes like this. Egyptian priests told Solon who was visiting Egypt at the time and who I think I'm not positive was Platos grandfather. Once Plato heard it he wrote it down in his own words.
Plato said that the "Civilization" of Atlantis not country, not city but civilization lay outside the Pillars of Hercules not next to it. That would mean anything that did not touch the meditterranean would be considered outside the pillars of hercules, from north and south America, Africa, and the north and south poles. Plato also mentioned that Atlantis was a highly advanced culture with advanced mediciene, very gifted architects, and even had the technology for flying or hovering vehicles. It lay in the Atlantic for which the civilization was named and its capital city was contructed in a circular fashion that would out to most proficient for irrigation and trading by boat. Yes the Atlanteans traded with many other cultures besides themselves, the Atlanteans were very adept with boats and seagoing, it was said they even had their own Navy with which had no equal on the planet. Like someone else mentioned before Atlantis was not just a city, there many cities spread out among country roughly the size Australia maybe a little smaller. The Atlanteans worshipped Poseidon the God of the sea and had many Statues of him in Atlantis. Also the outer rings of capital were adorned in precious metals, the outtermost ring being coated with Tin, the next Gold, and the palace itself made out of an ore called Orichalcum. Which is like a reddish granite and being extremely rare, being worth around $2,000 an ounce.
Now I've gotten this from many books on Atlantis from Plato's account to books from Erich von Daniken, Edgar Cayce, Ignatius Donnelly, etc.

Originally posted by DemonSpeedN
Plato said that the "Civilization" of Atlantis not country, not city but civilization lay outside the Pillars of Hercules not next to it.

Not exactly.
He indicated it lay directly in front of the pillars.

Plato also mentioned that Atlantis was a highly advanced culture with advanced mediciene, very gifted architects, and even had the technology for flying or hovering vehicles.

Plato never said anything at all that resembled this in the least.

Please read what Plato wrote before you go on about "what Plato wrote."

Also the outer rings of capital were adorned in precious metals, the outtermost ring being coated with Tin, the next Gold, and the palace itself made out of an ore called Orichalcum. Which is like a reddish granite and being extremely rare, being worth around $2,000 an ounce.

There is no such thing as orichalcum, so one wonders how you priced it.

Orichalcum to the Greeks was brass. Plato said the orichalcum the Atlanteans had was something other than what the Greeks called orichalcum. But it was a metal, not "granite-like."

Now I've gotten this from many books on Atlantis from Plato's account to books from Erich von Daniken, Edgar Cayce, Ignatius Donnelly, etc.

You need better sources, then.

Harte

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I do not know if this will help you or not, but I thought I would throw it out there. I recently read this in a book and looked into it, not much info available on the internet.

The book mentions that in the North American Cherokee tradition there is a tell of a place called Atali, the place from which their ancestors dispersed throughout the world immediately after a catastrophic deluge. The book is Forbidden Science, edited by J. Douglas Kenyon, it is a collection of 42 essays by researchers, from the magazine Atlantis Rising. The essay was written by Frank Joseph. You can can download a copy of the magazine that contains the essay for $2.95 here.
The essay contains a great list of societies that had knowledge of Atlantis.

When I searched for information on the internet on the word Atali + Cherokee, I found this entry in a book on Google Books (The Atlantis Encyclopedia By Frank Joseph):
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Book preview here

I hope that helps!
OiO

Originally posted by Ben81
reply to post by JimIrie

 

but we dont know what type of technology they had ...

Yes we do.

Their technology was poor enough that the armies of Athens beat them. That's in Plato.

So that means no moving cities, no flying vehicles, no laser weapons, no weapons of mass destruction bombs. Given Plato's time frame, that means that Greeks, armed only with flint tipped spears and slings (the most common weapon.. .no bows back then) defeated them. The horse hadn't been tamed, so no horseback riders.

An army of rock-flinging, club wielding, spear carriers.

That's what is in Plato.

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What do you mean it is in Plato? It's in the Timaeus and Critias or some other dialogue, what?

reply to post by Harte


How bout we agree to disagree and you believe what you want and I'll believe what I want. Cause neither of us can prove one way or another what is true and what is false.