NASA Scientist Says They’re NOT Hiding Anything.

reply to post by Mercenary2007


Yes, I was trying to be funny with the Hollow Earth Theory. But in all honesty photographs like these:

archive.coasttocoastam.com...

Certainly make me suspicious of NASA.

reply to post by aliengenes


ah i get it. so since the camera is zoomed in on the tether and the ice particles and debris is closer to the shuttle making them look larger than they are and since the shuttle is on the night side of earth headed into sunrise and those particles and pieces of debris are tumbling in space causing them to flash as the light hits them you believe they are alien cruisers? Give me a break apparently after 40 years of watching nasa as you claim you still haven't learned what ice particles and debris looks like in close relation to the shuttle while looking at them through a zoomed in camera.

But you go ahead and believe what you want to believe i'm not going to stop you. i might laugh at you for awhile but i'm not going to stop you from believing they are little alien cruisers.

But i will make a suggestion.... maybe you should go get those well trained eyes checked you might need glasses.

reply to post by QuantumDisciple


yeah see pictures like that, there is so much room for interpretation and peoples minds will show them what they want to see and not whats really there.

The truth about Et's is out there But we're not going to find it on youtube or any other website. If the universe is infinite somewhere out there, there has to be intelligent life. earth can't be the only planet with "intelligent life"

reply to post by aliengenes


Wow your jumping to conclusions a bit fast mate.
I believe in ET's, and UFO's. But these aren't.
I suggest you watch the first 3 minutes of this

www.youtube.com...

It explains what your looking at, they're not UFO's.

reply to post by Mercenary2007


I'm not saying what is in those picture is alien or a base. Is fairly clear something was there and in later NASA photos it's not...

To me this means the are being a little less than truthful.

Originally posted by OrionHunterX

Some have gone to the extent of claiming to see 'objects' on the Moon but this is purely subjective and open to interpretation by various people.

I call these 'Cognitive illusions'. Like seeing 'bunnies in clouds'.

Originally posted by QuantumDisciple
Here is an ATS thread that clearly proves NASA lying.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Nope! Check it out...

Originally posted by rat256
ummm... no... you don't see a hole... you see a point of attraction..."The magnetosphere is the region of space controlled by the Earth's magnetic field". you are seeing an effect caused by the attraction of solar wind charged particles to an area ABOVE the earth dictated by the magnetic field of the earth (the same one that makes compasses work...)

en.wikipedia.org...

its a fascinating thing, but it has squat to do with a hollow earth!

Nuff said! So much for your insinuation that NASA is lying based on that link you provided! And needless to say, the Earth isn't hollow!!

Originally posted by QuantumDisciple
reply to post by Mercenary2007

 

Yes, I was trying to be funny with the Hollow Earth Theory. But in all honesty photographs like these:

archive.coasttocoastam.com...

Certainly make me suspicious of NASA.

I think I'm more suspicious of John Lear! What was that he dressed up in color? Oh yes! Alien Moon bases! I should've known!

reply to post by OrionHunterX


Look at my post on the top of page 2...I was joking about the Hollow Earth proves NASA is lying.

Originally posted by QuantumDisciple
reply to post by Mercenary2007

 

Yes, I was trying to be funny with the Hollow Earth Theory. But in all honesty photographs like these:

archive.coasttocoastam.com...

Certainly make me suspicious of NASA.

The shape of the crater still seems approximately there, just it's not quite the same photo and angle etc ...

This thread is going to either die out or be a battle royale or explain this and explain that stuffs. I hope it's the former really. I'd like to hear about some other space organisation other than NASA for once.

I'll elaborate....how much rocket fuel does it take to move the mass of the command module from the moon back to the Earth? Given a Delta V for moon to Earth of 2.3 km/sec and a mass of 5,560 kg and ending with 1,560 kg at the end of the burn, would mean that there would at least need to be the energy equivalent of about 2.04x10^7 KJ at perfect efficiency.

Relative to center of mass (1560 kg)(2.3 km/sec) = (4000 kg)(V fuel) .... V fuel = 0.897 km/sec
Relative to command module .... V fuel = 0.897+2.3 = 3.197 km/sec
Minimum kinetic energy of fuel .... KE Fuel = 1/2*(4000 kg)(3,197 m/sec)^2 *(1KJ / 1000J) = 2.04x10^7 KJ

Aerozine-50 (.6 mol N2H4 to .4 mol UDMH) is about 43.28 grams per mole, and nitrogen tetroxide is about 91.98 g/mol.

If the reaction is 10 moles A-50 (6 mol N2H4 ->3 mol N2O4 and 4 mole UDMH->8 mole N2O4) to 11 mole N2O4 (yielding 21 mol N2, 28 mole H2O, 8 mole CO2) for an approximately averaged complete reaction....thus a reaction weight ratio of 43 % A-50 (1720 kg) to 57% nitrogen tetroxide (2280 kg). That means the energy density of A-50 when reacted with nitrogen tetroxide would have to be somewhere in the ballpark of 11.86 MJ/kg.

ACTUALLY, I do change my stance on that after all. The official story does stand, lol. Sorry about that everybody at ATS, that's what I get for taking somebody else's word for something instead of doing the research myself.

Originally posted by tothetenthpower

Wow, that's kind of harsh. In any case, I don't believe any federal agency is ever telling us the truth about anything.

No dude, NASA is different.

They are not like any other bureaucracy and they are a paragon of virtue.

“No, nothing was held out from the public. NASA is a civilian agency and by law is required to disclose all results to the general public

This man lie, or he is a puppet, or he ignore the fundamental Law that rule NASA.

NASA is NOT a Civilian Agency.... but a Department of Defence Agency........ By Law!
history.nasa.gov...

The Administration (NASA) shall be considered a defense agency of the United States for the purpose of chapter 17 of title 35 of the United States Code.

AND...

No (NASA) information which has been classified for reasons of national security shall be included in any report made under this section.

The detection of Alien Life or ET civilizations, or UFOs could be an information of National Security?

So, please tell the truth www.abovetopsecret.com...

Of course nasa is lying..... Lets just go to the most basic lie:

NASA = non government agency. "NASA is a civilian agency and by law is required to disclose all results to the general public. "

Now lets see the lie:

www.nasa.gov...

Oh whats that on the end of the link? .gov

The question shouldn't be whether or not they are lying. NASA doesn't disclose all information, they won't. There are delays in transmissions, classified photos, the "Santa" references. But to say we can immediately jump from that to interstellar craft is a huge leap. We can all agree we haven't been told everything, the question is why?

Originally posted by aliengenes
well nasas lying through their teeth and this proves it beyond the shadow of a doubt.
www.youtube.com...

Thought this was already explained?

What was said about NASA being completely open to the public is entirely false. A person I know recently went to the Langley Research Center in Virginia for a school-funded teacher learning experience. While there, she took photos of the building and the very large NASA sign on the outside of the building.

She was on a tour and taken through a hangar when she pulled out her camera to take a picture of what she called a very stealthy looking black craft. Before she could even snap the photo, a NASA official ran over to her and started yelling at her, enough to make her cry.

He told her not to take any photographs because she was in a highly classified area.

He also asked her if she had taken any other photos already. She said no. He told her if she had taken any other photos, they would have had to take her camera from her.

So you see, NASA is not by any means obligated to share everything with the public. In fact, they have highly classified areas, with highly classified information, with highly classified people.

They will share what they want to share, and only that.

I remebered at the start of the misbegotten Iraqi war that an Iraqi official in front of the news media said there were no troops Iraq when US tanks were rolling right into Bagdad city.

So NASA, the NAZI space agency created by the die hard avowed Gobbels taught von braun is saying the same thing? I doubt if many would be fooled again.

Time to come clean or the Nuremburg trials, this fime for the followers of nazism within NASA and their beliefs against humanity will start all over again.

The only nasa footage i find unexplained is the one below. Its from the sts 114 footage

Originally posted by boomadatigger

Originally posted by aliengenes
well nasas lying through their teeth and this proves it beyond the shadow of a doubt.
www.youtube.com...

Thought this was already explained?

lol. it only proves that some light and magic guy can make pretend.