Draco Reptilians

Originally posted by Daelume
Though not containing totally accurate information, Dr. Joe Lewels' article on the Reptilians is worth noting.

www.geocities.com...

Then why should we read it..? Hmm... Come on man, start posting things that back up your claims not dispute them.

www.title14.com...

Yes, some 'reptoids' are native to this planet. The ruling caste of 'aliens' ARE reptilian. The beige or white beings are called The Draco. Other reptilian beings are green, and some are brown. They were an ancient race on Earth, living underground. It may have been one of the Draconian beings that 'tempted' Eve in the Garden of Eden. Reptoids rightly consider themselves "native Terrans." Perhaps they are the ones we call the Fallen Angels. Maybe not, either way, we are [considered] the 'squatters' on Earth.

(see link for more of this interview)

www.davidicke.net...

For the most part, we are dealing with another species that is humanoid in shape, but Reptilian in heritage. Their leader elite are the 'Draco'. They even have special 'wings', which are flaps of skin, supported by long ribs. These can be folded back against the body. They are also known as the "Dragon Race" and their symbology usually includes the Winged Serpent. There are elements of their species which do not have wings -- the "soldier class" of the species and 'scientists'.

(click link for more)

Originally posted by Faisca

Originally posted by Daelume
Though not containing totally accurate information, Dr. Joe Lewels' article on the Reptilians is worth noting.

www.geocities.com...

Then why should we read it..? Hmm... Come on man, start posting things that back up your claims not dispute them.

I gave you a link to a mainstream article about multiple moons orbiting the Earth.

I can get you much more from the mainstream about these extra moons. They are simply proven fact--especially Cruithne.

curious.astro.cornell.edu...

sci.esa.int...

www.davidicke.com...

Yes, I can, actually. "The Biggest Secret" is 550 pages with 60 illustrations and over 40 pictures. I really pushed the boat out with it. It's in great detail, and the material is tremendously sourced as much as possible. I can actually summarize the story very simply. What my research and my unbelievably synchronistic life in terms of the research have shown me, explained in great detail in the book is that, if you go far enough back, you pick up not just one extraterrestrial race, but extraterrestrial races, which interbred with humanity. There is one particular group, within an extraterrestrial race, which operates within the physical world (certainly from within the Earth), and its primary place of focus is the lower fourth dimension, which people call the astral level.

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His information is not totally correct (particularly at the time when he wrote the Biggest Secret), but overall he is a good researcher.

Originally posted by Daelume

Actually, the first post in the thread contained information from Stewart Swerdlow's "Blue Blood, True Blood"

1. Stewart Swerdlow is a nut. He fools naive individuals into believing his theories (also with no proof) so they will purchase his books and pay for consultations with him. LOL, I can just imagine the people who line up to see him.

Secondly, I just posted an article on the Earth's second moon, Cruithne, which is recognised by mainstream science and has a very peculiar (programmed/artificial) orbit.

2. I read your article from space.com. The other moons, etc.. are caught asteroids, and it clearly explains how their orbit came to be.

However, this is not the Draco Planetoid, as it has been here for quite some time. It is likely some other type of alien monitoring station.

3. Clearly, it can't jsut be an asteroid...it must be an alien monitoring station...LOL

Often, they are built from organic material, and are assymetrical--usually hollowed out asteroids.

4. This is perhaps your most interesting claim of all. "Often, they are built from organic material..." Where the hell does your extensive knowledge of the composition/construction of these "moons" come from...oh wait, let me guess...personal experience.

You are certainly a very interesting individual Dae. I really wouldn't have any problem with your theory if you could back it up with, I don't know, anything?

Lukefj

EDIT: schpelling

[edit on 25-6-2004 by Lukefj]

educate-yourself.org...

I'd just like to say something. I mean, it's likely something you're FAR more than aware of, but hell, I am a Christian. I worship the Lord Jesus Christ, and yet, I still believe that the reptilians are around, exist, et cetra. Not
only that, but I've seen them. From my understanding, experiences, and what not.

They're infernal entities, but the reptilian operation is far less widespread, I believe, than David Icke portrays it. Granted, I'm going to send something to Icke, too, after this, but I feel this needs to be said. Yes, I believe they're infernal entities. I believe they're "demons", for lack of a better word, and I've been told by reliable sources and the overwhelming sum of evidence, not to mention my own personal experiences (many of which involve bedside
experiences. Heh, sound familiar?) that these demons, should they be "unbound", as it were, can physically take shape in our realm. (Of course, so do you, what with the nigh-identical 4th dimensional reptilians, the "physical" 3rd dimensional reptilians, etc.) I believe no aliens are visiting earth at this moment. I believe that this is part of a grand delusion, of which there is ample evidence, that will sink the world into falling chaos, to accept the "aliens"
as their saviors, when, in fact, they are not.

Originally posted by Lukefj

Originally posted by Daelume

Actually, the first post in the thread contained information from Stewart Swerdlow's "Blue Blood, True Blood"

1. Stewart Swerdlow is a nut. He fools naive individuals into believing his theories (also with no proof) so they will purchase his books and pay for consultations with him. LOL, I can just imagine the people who line up to see him.

Secondly, I just posted an article on the Earth's second moon, Cruithne, which is recognised by mainstream science and has a very peculiar (programmed/artificial) orbit.

2. I read your article from space.com. The other moons, etc.. are caught asteroids, and it clearly explains how their orbit came to be.

However, this is not the Draco Planetoid, as it has been here for quite some time. It is likely some other type of alien monitoring station.

3. Clearly, it can't jsut be an asteroid...it must be an alien monitoring station...LOL

Often, they are built from organic material, and are assymetrical--usually hollowed out asteroids.

4. This is perhaps your most interesting claim of all. "Often, they are built from organic material..." Where the hell does your extensive knowledge of the composition/construction of these "moons" come from...oh wait, let me guess...personal experience.

You are certainly a very interesting individual Dae. I really wouldn't have any problem with your theory if you could back it up with, I don't know, anything?

Lukefj

EDIT: schpelling

[edit on 25-6-2004 by Lukefj]

I'm currently compiling some links to information regarding the Reptilians.

www.reptilianagenda.com...

Far in the past before Atlantis existed,
men there were who delved into darkness,
using dark magic, calling up beings
from the great deep below us.
Forth came they into this cycle.
Formless were they of another vibration,
existing unseen by the children of earth-men.
Only through blood could they have formed being.
Only through man could they live in the world.

In ages past were they conquered by Masters,
driven below to the place whence they came.
But some there were who remained,
hidden in spaces and planes unknown to man.
Lived they in Atlantis as shadows,
but at times they appeared among men.
Aye, when the blood was offered,
for they came they to dwell among men.

In the form of man they amongst us,
but only to sight were they as are men.
Serpent-headed when the glamour was lifted
but appearing to man as men among men.
Crept they into the Councils,
taking forms that were like unto men.

Slaying by their arts
the chiefs of the kingdoms,
taking their form and ruling o'er man.
Only by magic could they be discovered.
Only by sound could their faces be seen.
Sought they from the Kingdom of shadows
to destroy man and rule in his place.

But, know ye, the Masters were mighty in magic,
able to lift the Veil from the face of the serpent,
able to send him back to his place.
Came they to man and taught him the secret,
the WORD that only a man can pronounce.
Swift then they lifted the Veil from the serpent
and cast him forth from the place among men.

Yet, beware, the serpent still liveth
in a place that is open at times to the world.
Unseen they walk among thee
in places where the rites have been said.
Again as time passes onward
shall they take the semblance of men.

www.reptilianagenda.com...

The ancient traditions and scriptures from different continents talk about a race of serpent beings endowed with superhuman powers. The scriptural and folkloric resources are used to present more complete picture of them and their ancient and recent interaction with humans.

eaglenet.enochgraphics.com...

The Dulce Book by Branton discusses the Reptilians quite a lot (in his interviews with underground base workers, etc.)

www.apollonius.net...

www.reptilianagenda.com...

www.reptilianagenda.com...

Decent research archive. Definitely could be better, but Icke says that he wants people to decide for themselves what to believe, so he just posts the stuff for people to figure out for themselves what is true.

This is probably why only around 60-80% of his information is true.

www.reptilianagenda.com...

xcerpt from David Icke's book "The Biggest Secret"


Post removed as it was a giant copy-and-paste which conflicts with our terms and conditions.

[edit on 25-6-2004 by SkepticOverlord]

No, it does not conflict with your terms and conditions, because David Icke gave permission to anyone who wants to to copy and paste that excerpt, which is why it shows up on so many website.

I'm going to repost it thank you very much.

Now research the copyright of something before you go nattering on about 'rules'.

[edit on 25-6-2004 by Daelume]

www.thesolomongiants.com...

�The Japanese War Memorial� of the Solomon Islands, located at Mount Austin of Honiara, would have to be the only one of its type in the world. Most war memorials I�ve come across have something to do with soldiers, guns, dead people and stuff. Not this one! It�s about 30 x 10 metres in area. On the western end there are four large blank vertical marble walls that should have writing on them, and to the north a row of Cherry-blossoms that are having difficulty surviving in the tropical environment. The only writing to be found, which is about the famous Japanese sculpturer, is at the base of the bronze statue of a half-human man with scales who is holding a ray-gun looking thing attached to the end of his long tail.

This very futuristic �Star Trek� warrior-type reptilian half-human man has a very determined look upon his face whilst holding his tail-attached ultra-modern ray-gun in his right hand and pointing to the west with his left. Surprisingly enough, when I line up to where he is pointing, for some reason he is pointing straight at the �Mt Dragon UFO Waterfall-lake Base� of northwest Guadalcanal. The less detailed bullet ridden statue that is there now was the replacement that the Japanese put there in hindsight just before the Solomon Island Tension. As mentioned, ironically enough, in 1999, the Japanese having approval from the Solomon Government were just about to send a 2,000 strong contingent of the Japanese Army into the centre of Guadalcanal to do a so-called military exercise, but the Solomon Tension put an end to that. Mind you, there�s 970 Islands in the Solomon�s that they could have choose from. But look at it now, Howard has sent an equivalent 2,000 strong military contingent to the Solomon Islands to do an expensive 300 million dollars a year occupation, as said for ten years, to restore �law-and order�, or for whatever reasons of their own.

It is my belief that apart from some Japanese soldiers losing their lives from being a free feed for the Giants, they more than likely had a few encounters with these warrior-half-human-lizard types, and when news got back to Jap Headquarters about what was happening, it was �Abandon Island!� and let them have it. That�s why there were no Japanese to be initially found went the Allies arrived. It�s a difficult subject to briefly discuss here, but I hope you can see the like between the two.

Incidentally, the American led Howard occupiers are in a �catch 22� situation. Doing the bidding of other world governments, to stop the rest of the world knowing the real truth of the Solomon Islands, and hopefully at the same time gaining the massive oil reserves of the Solomon�s like East Timor, and some other resources, they are in a �no win� situation, at least with the Giants. For instance, perish the thought that they think that they can just waltz into the jungles of Guadalcanal and take on the Giants, as many of them would not come back. It would be similar to the movie �Predator�, and what the Japanese experienced in World War II. Explaining their lose to the relatives of the dead, and to the rest of the media of the world would be interesting. As Giants can be found on other Islands of the Solomon�s, containing the entire Solomon Islands is impossible. Without even considering the known UFO Bases of the Solomon�s of which their American bosses have been capitalizing on for some time now, if they attempt to contain the entire 1,900-kilometre length of the Solomon Islands, they better invade Vanuatu also, as they have Giants and little hairy undiscovered hominoids there too. Just ask them.

www.sabon.org...

Credo Mutwa is a major figure among the Zulu--one of their highest ranking Shamans (Sanusi), official historian of the Zulu people, authoer of the world-renowned Vusamazulu, lecturer and figurehead among the Black peoples of Africa, racial icon, etc.

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Excerpt from the interview:

They are white-skinned, like paper, almost like certain types of cardboard. Their skin is like that, it is the skin, definitely, of scaly, reptile-like creatures. Their foreheads are very large, bulging, and they look highly, highly intelligent.

(referring to the higher castes of the Draco Empire)

David Icke gave PERMISSION to post this particular excerpt wherever anyone likes. You can find it on several webpages. Go ahead and search for it and you will find it on many non-Icke websites.

Excerpt from David Icke's book "The Biggest Secret"

"In a remarkable period of 15 days as I travelled, around the United States in 1998, I met more than a dozen separate people who told me of how they had seen humans transform into reptiles and go back again in front of their eyes. Two television presenters had just such an experience while interviewing, a man who was in favour of the global centralization of power known as the New World Order. After the live interview, the male presenter said to his colleague that he had experienced an amazing sight during the interview. He had seen the man's face transform into a lizard-like creature and then return to human. His female fellow presenter was astounded because she had seen the interviewee's hands turn reptilian. The male presenter also told me of an experience a policeman friend had while making a routine visit to an office block in Aurora, near Denver, Colorado. The policeman had commented to an executive of one of the companies on the ground floor of the extreme nature of security in the building. She told him he should look at the higher floors if he wanted to know how extensive it really was. She also pointed to a lift which only went to certain floors at the top of the building and, as they chatted, she told him of something she had seen some weeks earlier. The lift had opened and a very strange figure had emerged. He was white to the point of being albino, but he had a face shaped like a lizard and his eye pupils were vertical like a reptile's. This lizard-like figure, had walked out of the lift and into an official-looking car waiting outside. The policeman was so intrigued that he used his own time to check on the companies at the top of the building served, by the mystery lift. He found they were all fronts for the Central Intelligence Agency, the CIA.

Then there are the experiences of Cathy O'Brien, the mind controlled slave of the United States government for more than 25 years, which she details in her astonishing book, "Trance Formation Of America", written with Mark Phillips. She was sexually abused as a child and as an adult by a stream of famous people named in her book. Among them were the US Presidents, Gerald Ford, Bill Clinton and, most appallingly, George Bush, a major player in the Brotherhood, as my books and others have long exposed. It was Bush, a paedophile and serial killer, who regularly abused and raped Cathy's daughter, Kelly O'Brien, as a toddler before her mother's courageous exposure of these staggering events forced the authorities to remove Kelly from the mind control programme known as Project Monarch. Cathy writes in "Trance Formation Of America" of how George Bush was sitting in front of her in his office in Washington DC when, he opened a book at a page depicting lizard-like aliens from a far off, deep space place. Bush then claimed to be an 'alien' himself and appeared, before her eyes, to transform 'like a chameleon' into a reptile. Cathy believed that some kind of hologram had been activated to achieve this and from her understanding at the time I can see why she rationalized her experience in this way. Anyone would, because the truth is too fantastic to comprehend until you see the build up of evidence. There's no doubt that alien based mind programmes are part of these mind control projects and that the whole UFO/extraterrestrial scene is being massively manipulated, not least through Hollywood films designed to mold public thinking. Cathy says in her book that George Lucas, the producer of Star Wars, is an operative with NASA and the National Security Agency, the 'parent' body of the CIA. But given the evidence presented by so many other people, I don't believe that what Bush said and Cathy saw was just a mind control programme. I think he was revealing the Biggest Secret, that a reptilian race from another dimension has been controlling the planet for thousands of years. I know other people who have seen Bush shape-shift into a reptilian.

The president of Mexico in the 1980s, Miguel DeLa Madrid also used Cathy in her mind controlled state. She said he told her the legend of the Iguana and explained that lizard-like extraterrestrials had descended upon the Mayans in Mexico. The Mayan pyramids, their advanced astronomical technology and the sacrifice of virgins, was inspired by lizard-like aliens, he told her. He added that these reptilians interbred with the Mayans to produce a form of life they could inhabit. De La Madrid told Cathy that these reptile-human bloodlines could, fluctuate between a human and iguana appearance through chameleon-like abilities - "a perfect vehicle for transforming into world leaders", he said. De la Madrid claimed to have Mayan-lizard ancestry in his blood which allowed him to transform back to an iguana at will. He then changed before her eyes, as Bush had, and appeared to have a lizard-like tongue and eyes." Cathy understandably believed this to be another holographic projection, but was it really? Or was De La Madrid saying something very close to the truth? This theme of being like a chameleon is merely another term for 'shape-shifting', a theme you find throughout the ancient world and among open minded people, in the modern one too. Shapeshifting is the ability to use your mind to project another physical image for people to see. Everything is energy vibrating, at different speeds, so if you use your mind to re-vibrate that energy to a different resonance, you can appear in any form you choose. Many witnesses have described how the so-called 'Men in Black' materialize and dematerialize when they threaten people who are communicating information about extraterrestrials and UFOs. They can do this because they are interdimensional beings who can appear in any form. This is the main reason for the obsession with interbreeding among the Elite bloodline families. They are seeking to maintain a genetic structure which allows them to move between dimensions and shape-shift between a human and reptilian appearance. Once the genetic structure falls too far from it's reptilian origin, they can't shapeshift in this way.


Hunter S. Thompson in his book, "Fear and Loathing, In Las Vegas," describes seeing reptiles while in a drugged condition and a guy I met in the United States (in those 15 days I mentioned earlier) told me a similar story. He 'tripped' on a large amounts of '___' in the 1960s and in his seriously mind-altered state he would see some people as humans and others as humanoid lizards and other reptiles. For a while he believed that he was merely hallucinating, but as a regular 'tripper' at high doses he began to realize that what he was seeing, usually by the third day of a five-day 'trip', was not an hallucination, but the vibratory veils lifting which allowed him to see beyond the physical to the force controlling the person. In these moments the same people always had lizard features and the same people always looked human. They never switched. He also began to observe that those around him who appeared lizard-like in his altered state always seemed to react the same to movies, television programmes, etc. We used to laugh and say "here come the lizards," he told me. He believed there was, to use his own phrase, a 'morphogenetic field' which transmitted to the DNA of the lizard people and aligned the cell structure to the reptilian genetic blueprint. The more reptilian genes a person carries the easier it is for this communication, or rather control, to take place. And the ones with the cell structure most aligned to the reptilian blueprint are the Elite families that run the world to this day. It is not without reason that Diana, Princess of Wales, used to call the Windsors the 'lizards' and the 'reptiles' and said in all seriousness "They're not human." This was told to me by a close confidant of Diana for nine years whom I quote at length later in the book.

At the end of that 15 days of meeting person after person telling me the same story of seeing humans become reptiles, I was sitting in the speakers' room at a Whole Life Expo event in Minneapolis where I was appearing and was chatting about these experiences when a gifted psychic lady said that she knew what I was talking about, because she could see the reptiles inside and around the bodies of leading world politicians, and the business, banking and military e1ite. This was possible because, as someone who had accessed her psychic sight, she could see beyond the physical and into the lower fourth dimension where these reptilians reside. What did Miguel De La Madrid say to Cathy O'Brien? The reptile-human bloodlines could fluctuate between a human and iguana appearance through chameleon-like abilities, 'a perfect vehicle for transforming into world leaders'. This psychic lady said that most of the people in positions of power appeared to be reptiles, but there were others who were still human and these people, she said, were "overshadowed and controlled" by a reptile, but they weren't actually reptiles. We would call this being possessed. This is an important distinction. There are the 'full-bloods' who are reptilians using an apparent human form to hide their true nature, and the 'hybrids', the reptile-human crossbreed bloodlines, who are possessed by the reptilians from the fourth dimension. A third type are the reptilians who directly manifest in this dimension, but can't hold that state indefinitely. Some of the 'Men in Black' are examples of this. Many of the possessed people will have no idea that this is so, but their thoughts are the reptilians' thoughts and they act in ways that advance the Agenda without realizing the background to how and why they are being used. Leading Brotherhood families like the Rothschilds and the Windsors are full-bloods reptilians wearing human physical bodies like an overcoat in the full knowledge of who they are and the Agenda they are seeking to implement. Another comment the psychic lady made was that in her altered state of consciousness, Hillary Clinton appeared as a reptile, while her husband, Bill Clinton the US President, was only overshadowed, and controlled by one. This is interesting because my own research, and that of others, has revealed Hillary Clinton to be much higher in, the hierarchy than Bill, who, while of a crossbreed bloodline, is a pawn in the game, to be used and discarded as necessary. It is not always that the most powerful people are placed in what appears to be the most powerful jobs. Often they are not. They are the string-pullers of those who appear to have the power.

There is another key difference between the full-bloods and the crossbreeds. Everything is created by sound. When you think or feel, you emit a wave of energy which changes the energy around you to resonate at that same vibratory level, That wave is actually a sound, broadcasting beyond the range of human hearing. Form cannot exist without sound. As you can see in a fantastic series of videos called Cymatics, it is sound which turns matter into form. In the videos, sand and other particles are placed on a metal plate and this is vibrated by different sound which rearrange the sand into amazing, often geometric patterns. With each change of sound the patterns change accordingly. Go back to the original sound and the original pattern returns immediately. It is like the waves that form the concentric circles of the planetary orbits around the Sun I mentioned in the last chapter, The solar system is also the creation of sound. Everything is. In the beginning was the word and the word was sound. In the Cymatics videos you see the particles form into mini planets, solar systems and galaxies, just through sound vibrations. Sound is also a wonderful form of healing because by resonating the body and its organs at their proper vibration they can be healed. Illness is disease, the disharmony of the natural vibrational state of the body and, because our thoughts and emotions are actually sound waves, our imbalanced thoughts and emotions disrupt the vibrational harmony and therefore lead to disease. This is how emotional stress causes illness. It is so simple. Anyway, another incredible example of all this in the Cymatics videos is seeing almost human-like figures forming from the particles when certain sounds are emitted. Our bodies are also the result of sound resonating energy into form and if our minds are powerful enough to change the sound range of the body, it moves into another form or disappears from this dimension, altogether. This is what is called shape-shifting. It is not a miracle, it is science, the natural laws of creation. The full-blood reptilians of the lower fourth dimension can therefore make their 'human' physical form disappear and bring forward their reptilian level of existence. They shape-shift. To us in this dimension they appear human, but it's just a vibrational overcoat.

After the first draft, of this chapter was completed I met another woman, this time in England, who had been married to a man involved in Satanic ritual and the Brotherhood networks. He was head keeper of an area of land called Burnham Beeches, near the Buckinghamshire-Berkshire border a few miles from Slough, west of London. This is an ancient site mentioned in the Domesday Book at the time of William the Conqueror in the 1lth century and it has a reputation for Satanism. The lady who spoke to me was taking her dog for a walk across the land at dusk in the early 1970s when she saw a figure in a long red robe. When he lifted his head, she saw that his face was that of a lizard. She obviously thought she was crazy, but this was no illusion, she said the 'lizard' was very real and very physical, not an apparition. She is very psychic and she later began to see people either transform into lizards before her eyes or be overshadowed by them in exactly the way described by the American psychic. If you look in the picture section you will see an artist's impression of what she sees with her psychic sight and many others have described exactly the same experiences. On July 20th 1988, a number of people in Bishopsville, South Carolina said they were terrorised by a "seven foot tall lizardman that had no hair, eyebrows or lips, three fingers on each hand and large slanted eyes that glowed red in colour. There were five sightings of this "lizard-man" and the story was reported in the Los Angeles Times and the Herald Examiner."


This ends the excerpt from David Icke's book "The Biggest Secret"

Dae,

Thank you for the wonderful reading. I will place these links next to all the other works of non-fiction in my collection like "Alice in Wonderland," "Moby Dick," and "Harry and the Hendersons" LOL

PS. You could have posted them all in one post

Thanks again, you have been quite entertaining.

Lukefj