Coldest winter in 1,000 years on its way

Coldest winter in 1,000 years on its way

rt.com

After the record heat wave this summer, Russia's weather seems to have acquired a taste for the extreme.
Forecasters say this winter could be the coldest Europe has seen in the last 1,000 years.
The change is reportedly connected with the speed of the Gulf Stream, which has shrunk in half in just the last couple of years. Polish scientists say that it means the stream will not be able to compensate for the cold from the Arctic winds. According to them, when the stream is completely stopped, a new Ice Age will begin in Europe.

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Im not sure if all of this in the article is 100% true. Im going to have a look around to see if I can find more stuff about this.

If this is going to be the coldest winter in 1000 years, I wonder what the effects of this will be. I wonder what the few years after this one will be like.

The forecast is only 70% accurate the article says, but in November, they say they will be able to forecast with better accuracy.

“Although the forecast for the next month is only 70 percent accurate, I find the cold winter scenario quite likely,” Vadim Zavodchenkov, a leading specialist at the Fobos weather center, told RT. “We will be able to judge with more certainty come November. As for last summer's heat, the statistical models that meteorologists use to draw up long-term forecasts aren't able to predict an anomaly like that.”

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Heres an article from late August that talks about how abnormal Russia's summer was this year.

Five Tornadoes at Once Hit Russia's South

Weather forecasters say an abrupt change in temperature caused the tornadoes. They predict more storms over the European part of Russia.

Meanwhile, a sudden cold snap has put an end to the record heat wave in Moscow – for the first time in two months, the temperatures are below the average.

The cold front that suddenly hit western Russia is shocking people no less than the recent heat wave: within two days, the temperatures dropped from the upper 20s to 9 degrees Celsius.

Over the summer Russia broke at least 22 heat records. The abnormal heat raised the mortality rates, fueled deadly forest fires and caused terrible smog.

Ecologists say that such weather conditions are not to be expected within the next 5,000 years. Meteorologists assured Muscovites that the normal temperatures for this time of the year will return over the weekend.

As long as America can serve as a beacon of light to the world through this coldest weather thingy then itll be ok -hint the tone-

Mom is just trying to regain her balance.

We have to stop tripping her up.

I know in the UK the last few winters have had more snow than in the last 30 odd years. This was especially noticeable on the south coast which only used to get1-2 snow days a year, usually in February. Last winter and the one before it were humdingers. A couple of years ago we had snow in April!

There was a thread about this Italian Physicist much earlier in the summer. conclusion of his calculations spanning several years: BP disaster affected the Gulf Stream.
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I'm terrible about trying to search for the threads but there were 2 more of interest. One was about a sudden drop in ocean current temp in eastern europe area, and millions of fish died, also not that long ago.

And Scandinavian current quit.

for years the weather in the fall have been warm here in missouri, but this year it is bone chilling. i remember back in the 60s near kansas city we would have hard winters where the lakes would freeze over 3 ft thick and you could drive buses on the lake. everything changed in the 80s. we would have tornadoes in january and the temperature would reach the 80's in november.

i'm not sure if this is just a cycle the planet goes through, or if there is something wrong?

all i know is in any avent this year i'm heading to the southern border, cuz its gonna be a nasty cold winter, i can already feel it

Here we go again, something else to scare people. The fear monger machine is in full motion.

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if minus 20 what about cattle freezing?

Originally posted by jumpingbeanz
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if minus 20 what about cattle freezing?

Then you wont need to buy a freezer

Here in north Texas, its already getting cold. The past week temperatures have fallen quite a bit it feels like. A little over a month ago we had pretty bad flooding that killed a few people. Texas is one of those places where the weather is always weird, so Im not for sure if the weather here is far out of the usual.

Here in the Calif desert this summer has been about 5 to 8º colder then i have ever see it. And i have lived out here for 59 years.

I don't know what to expect for this winter colder or warmer then normal.

So we are in global warming but all temperatures are colder than normal? How Bizarre. The truth is there is no global warming occuring, it is actually global cooling, when the poles heat their coolness actually spreads south, they aren't completely melting the coolness is spreading. It's like if you put ice in hot water...the ice heats and the rest of the water cools. We're actually due for another ice age...I believe with the poles "melting" and the glaciers breaking off they are cooling the rest of the earth off.

Originally posted by OmiOra
So we are in global warming but all temperatures are colder than normal? How Bizarre. The truth is there is no global warming occuring, it is actually global cooling, when the poles heat their coolness actually spreads south, they aren't completely melting the coolness is spreading. It's like if you put ice in hot water...the ice heats and the rest of the water cools. We're actually due for another ice age...I believe with the poles "melting" and the glaciers breaking off they are cooling the rest of the earth off.

that makes perfect sense, why didnt the world scientists and the greeners get the memo...lol

you win a star

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It does make sense and even the scientist know this, a hacker in Britian earlier this year hacked a government website and found this information, which wasn't publicly released. Our governments knows they are losing credibility to the public and are creating information and are creating issues to keep us at ease in a sense for us to rely on them.

Here in NW Oregon, I saw a group of swans the other day on the river, I do not usually see them until November when it is colder. They come down from Alaska and it seems like they are early this year.

I thought the swans came early because it was cold up North, but maybe they just wanted some sunshine, as we just had some really warm weather up here. However, now the weather is back to normal for this time of year.

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Global warming=Global cooling.

It's about balance,it's totally natural.

We may not have a whole lot to do with stuff directly,but stuff just tends to BaLaNCe itself out.

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I agree, it is natural to the Earth, it goes through warming and cooling cycles.

Originally posted by aliengenes
that makes perfect sense, why didnt the world scientists and the greeners get the memo...lol
you win a star

Some of them get it ...
Remember the 2003 report commanded by the US Defense Minister : An Abrupt Climate Change Scenario and Its Implications for United States National Security, where as they said, they tried to "Imagining the Unthinkable"

Imagining the Unthinkable :
The purpose of this report is to imagine the unthinkable – to push the boundaries of current research on climate change so we may better understand the potential implications on United States national security.
We have interviewed leading climate change scientists, conducted additional research, and reviewed several iterations of the scenario with these experts. The scientists support this project, but caution that the scenario depicted is extreme in two fundamental ways.
First, they suggest the occurrences we outline would most likely happen in a few regions, rather than on globally. Second, they say the magnitude of the event may be considerably smaller.
We have created a climate change scenario that although not the most likely, is plausible, and would challenge United States national security in ways that should be considered immediately.

There is substantial evidence to indicate that significant global warming will occur during the 21st century. Because changes have been gradual so far, and are projected to be similarly gradual in the future, the effects of global warming have the potential to be manageable for most nations.
Recent research, however, suggests that there is a possibility that this gradual global warming could lead to a relatively abrupt slowing of the ocean’s thermohaline conveyor, which could lead to harsher winter weather conditions, sharply reduced soil moisture, and more intense winds in certain regions that currently provide a significant fraction of the world’s food production.
With inadequate preparation, the result could be a significant drop in the human carrying capacity of the Earth’s environment. The research suggests that once temperature rises above some threshold, adverse weather conditions could develop relatively abruptly, with persistent changes in the atmospheric circulation causing drops in some regions of 5-10 degrees Fahrenheit in a single decade.
Paleoclimatic evidence suggests that altered climatic patterns could last for as much as a century, as they did when the ocean conveyor collapsed 8,200 years ago, or, at the extreme, could last as long as 1,000 years as they did during the Younger Dryas, which began about 12,700 years ago.

Conflict Scenario Due to Climate Change - United States :
2010: Disagreements with Canada and Mexico over water increase tension
2012: Flood of refugees to southeast U.S. and Mexico from Caribbean islands
2015: European migration to United States (mostly wealthy)
2016: Conflict with European countries over fishing rights
2018: Securing North America, U.S. forms integrated security alliance with Canada and Mexico
2020: Department of Defense manages borders and refugees from Caribbean and Europe.

Conlusion :
It is quite plausible that within a decade the evidence of an imminent abrupt climate shift may become clear and reliable. It is also possible that our models will better enable us to predict the consequences. In that event the United States will need to take urgent action to prevent and mitigate some of the most significant impacts.
Diplomatic action will be needed to minimize the likelihood of conflict in the most impacted areas, especially in the Caribbean and Asia. However, large population movements in this scenario are inevitable. Learning how to manage those populations, border tensions that arise and the resulting refugees will be critical.
New forms of security agreements dealing specifically with energy, food and water will also be needed. In short, while the US itself will be relatively better off and with more adaptive capacity, it will find itself in a world where Europe will be struggling internally, large number so refugees washing up on its shores and Asia in serious crisis over food and water. Disruption and conflict will be endemic features of life.