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The possibility of a "shared" UK-French nuclear deterrent is set to be on the agenda of a summit between David Cameron and Nicolas Sarkozy in London this autumn.
A politically explosive proposal for joint Franco-British nuclear-submarine patrols – an idea sunk without trace in the recent past – has been brought back to the surface by the draconian defence cuts in both countries.
Although talks are still at a preliminary stage, officials in Paris say that the idea is one possibility for cost-saving military co-operation which is likely to be discussed by the Prime Minister and t
Originally posted by infinite
A much cheaper option would be (I await my execution for posting this) the European Union having the responsibility for nuclear deterrent and potential use of it. If the Lisbon Treaty created a mutual deference policy then why not give Brussels the authority?
It implemented, the EU would have a nuclear arsenal of near 500 (est.)
Originally posted by Yissachar1
I see this as another step towards federalization of europe.
Britian needs its own stand alone deterant for soverignties sake. I and many others in the UK do not want to be in the EU let alone have foriegners dictating our defense and economic policies..
Originally posted by Soshh
Aren’t our nuclear sub patrols already coordinated? I don’t think that this would be as drastic or undesirable as people are making out. The MOD must cut costs wherever they can and I think that our nuclear deterrent is a brilliant place to start.
Many weird and wonderful defence projects have been "ring-fenced" and cutting troop numbers and lowering equipment standards is not what we need in the middle of a war.
I can’t see us nuking anyone any time soon, this move would improve relations with the Frogs and save money better spent on gear that we need NOW. I say do it!
Originally posted by davespanners
This is bad news as far as I'm concerned if I had to choose to nuke anyone in the world it would be the French Now that option is being taken away from me
Originally posted by concernedcitizen519
This is probably one of the most stupid articles I've ever written. What happens when there's a conflict between the 2 and you have all these nukes in play?
Don't act like it's impossible to happen.
Originally posted by johnny c
Originally posted by concernedcitizen519
This is probably one of the most stupid articles I've ever written. What happens when there's a conflict between the 2 and you have all these nukes in play?
Don't act like it's impossible to happen.
Did you write the article ?
Originally posted by concernedcitizen519
Originally posted by johnny c
Originally posted by concernedcitizen519
This is probably one of the most stupid articles I've ever written. What happens when there's a conflict between the 2 and you have all these nukes in play?
Don't act like it's impossible to happen.
Did you write the article ?
Obviously not, but I still have an opinion.
Originally posted by johnny c
Originally posted by concernedcitizen519
Originally posted by johnny c
Originally posted by concernedcitizen519
This is probably one of the most stupid articles I've ever written. What happens when there's a conflict between the 2 and you have all these nukes in play?
Don't act like it's impossible to happen.
Did you write the article ?
Obviously not, but I still have an opinion.
Im after losing you there mate,you said it was the most stupid article you have ever written.
how is this obvious?? you dont have your name up ats!! .I was only asking you a question.
Originally posted by Laurauk
Monde Due. No no no. We do not want to share our Nukes with anyone, never mind our military. This Government are traitors to our Brave men and women whom have fought, while under resourced, under paid, whom live in accomodation fit for pigs in a sty. Mind you the previous Government was just as bad.
What annoys one. Why not ring fence Defence and cut overseas aid? Charity should begin at home, not countries where thier government are as corrupt as our own.
Now the government want to share all our military hardware, cut the manpower, and hand more powers over to brussles.
One word to say on this NO. End of Story.
We have been a independant country, we fought off the Nazis. We should remain an Independant country. Nice way of Grmany finally beating us eh, through using powers in the EU.
edit on 30-9-2010 by Laurauk because: Fixing Spelling
Originally posted by loves a conspiricy
I personally think as a brit....that we should continue to have our own nuclear deterants. We are already fed new laws from europe without our consent!!
We are a sovereign country....we are losing this day by day!!
We have stayed out of europe, and good riddance, if we had joined up and took on the euro we would be in the same position as greece and spain right now.
Why do we need someone else telling us how to use our weapons?? I dont think our government is stupid enough to start a nuclear war for no reason....i dont think they will use the full stop.
What happens if we get attacked?? do we have to ask permission to use some of our weapons??? we have 225 operational warheads ( some say 165 ) some that can travel 8000 miles.....why oh why do we need someone else to look after them and tell us when they think we can use them????