UN Fact-Finding Mission Says Israelis "Executed" US Citizen Furkan Dogan

UN Fact-Finding Mission Says Israelis "Executed" US Citizen Furkan Dogan
September 28, 2010
The report of the fact-finding mission of the Office of the United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights (OHCHR) on the Israeli attack on the Gaza flotilla released last week shows conclusively, for the first time, that US citizen Furkan Dogan and five Turkish citizens were murdered execution-style by Israeli commandos. The report reveals that Dogan, the 19-year-old US citizen of Turkish descent, was filming with a small video camera on the top deck of the Mavi Marmara when he was shot twice in the head, once in the back and in the left leg and foot and that he was shot in the face at point blank range while lying on the ground. The report says Dogan had apparently been "lying on the deck in a conscious or semi-conscious, state for some time" before being shot in his face.

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Obama Administration Silent on IDF Murder of 19-Year-Old American
By Dave Lindorff and Linn Washington September 28, 2010 --
Murder is murder, and terror is terror, you might think. But when terror is committed against an American citizen by the state of Israel the response from the US government is not protest, and it is surely not to demand justice, much less seek vengeance. It is silence.

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Its a disgrace that this has not been given any attention.

Imagine if that was Iran, we would be banging the drums of war. But since this is Israel, the worlds tyrannical Zionist state, it's alright.

Murder is murder, that is correct, but when another country executes one of our citizens it is our responsibility to respond with at least diplomatic force. But no, they can kill our people no big deal whatsoever. This is simply unacceptable, I am writing my worthless Congressman and Senator and demanding action be taken immediately!

Here is the response of the US Govt. when a Jewish American is murdered during an act of Piracy...

In 1985, when terrorists from the Palestine Liberation Front, in an act of piracy on the high seas in the Mediterranean, took control of the Achille Lauro, an Italian cruise ship, and executed the Jewish American Leon Klinghoffer, shooting him in the forehead and then pushing the wheelchair-bound 69-year-old overboard, the US responded with dramatic action. To rescue the passengers, Italian negotiators had worked out a deal granting safe passage to Tunisia to the pirates, in return for the freeing of the ship and its other passengers. But President Ronald Reagan dispatched a US fighter plane to intercept the plane carrying the PLF pirates to safety, and forced it to land at a US airbase in Italy, where they were turned over to Italian authorities for prosecution.

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Bull#, bull# and more bull#.

All this "evidence" is nothing more than the word of activists who have lied and lied about this flotilla, and the fact that there are so many different versions- one says he was hit twice in the head 2 in the back, on says he was hit 4 times in the head..
This is all bull#.

And then there's this video, which has no muzzle flash, no shot fired, just lies.. It was so easily debunked..
www.abovetopsecret.com...

And, what, because he has an American citizenship this is an issue for America? What if one the commandos injured had an American citizenship? What then?

Just bull#..

And this is something about you "fact finding" mission-
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Amazing...

I dare you to read it.

reply to post by Eliad


So in all three threads you copied and pasted the exact same message. I want to know how this is BS. Really, explain it, without linking other threads. Did this kid not really die? Did the IDF not really kill him? Is it some elaborate hoax to frame the IDF?

You need to get it through your thick skull that Israel has done some things that are wrong. The sun does not always shine out of Israel's ass, as you seem to think. You need to stop the typical Israeli defender doublespeak and get your $#!+ together.

reply to post by Rook1545


I know this post seems long, it's not very long, just very spaced.. Please read it and respond.
Thanks.

What did you want me to do? They're exactly the same..

I'll explain as best I can-


I'm not saying the guy didn't die, he obviously did, but some things don't add up-
Like how is it that he's the only one who was shot 5 times?
Why isn't there evidence of other people being shot 10 times all over the body?
A man falls down after 1 shot, how was he shot twice in the head twice in the back and once in the foot? I don't get it... And this is while the soldiers are being attacked? I would assume you'd spend one bullet on each person and move on..

My problem is with the facts, which are dubious, and the narrative, which says the Israeli soldiers shot this guy full of holes for some reason, just to show how cruel and brutal they are.

Does this make sense to you? Why would highly trained soldiers, who are in the middle of a riot, spend so many bullets on one target, WHILE THEY'RE BEING ATTACKED BY OTHER TARGETS?!

Also, why aren't there more wounded? If they shot him so happily and brutally why aren't there more dead? How can there be only 8? You've seen how many people there are, if each one got 5 bullets there should have been so many more dead!
Remember, this is one of the most highly trained soldiers in the army!

And as for the video- Why is everyone posting a video which is clearly not an execution, as if it were one?

I don't get it.

If you could explain to me this-
Why aren't there more dead? Why aren't there more people with 10 gun wounds? If the Israeli soldiers truly were so brutal as too happily put holes through this guy, why didn't they do it to other people or more people?

Why would the Israeli soldiers spend so much time on one target while they're under attack? One shot to the head of body is enough to stop any target! And don't tell me "Because they're evil", they're still under attack by other activists.

Why are you all viewing this video as if it's the execution of this guy, when in fact anyone can see that it's bull#?

And finally- Why does it matter that this guy had a US citizenship?
Do you know how many settlers have U.S citizenships?
Do you know how many soldiers?
And what if one of the commandos had a U.S citizenship? Should the U.S now make a bigger deal out of it? Should it investigate Turkey? Start a war? What?

I'm not saying that Israel is right whatever it does, there are a lot of things done in Israel, done with the IDF, or even in this flotilla that are wrong!
For example, this wasn't a very smart way to stop the flotilla! Planning was flawed, execution was flawed!

But this doesn't mean Israel had the intent of brutally killing people on this boat!
Understand?

reply to post by Eliad


I can see your point. The whole thing is very fishy, from both sides. The part to me that makes it that much worse is Israel not allowing for an investigation. If they really had nothing to hide, why not actively help to find out what went wrong and how it can be prevented in the future, seeing as how more of these are planned.

reply to post by Rook1545


Yeah I know, I don't get it either..
They are releasing more and more videos, but you can't really count on just the parts that they're releasing..

As you said, fishy on both sides, and probably not the best event in human history, but still, this isn't a reason to demonize the state of Israel..

reply to post by Eliad


Oh don't get me wrong I have nothing against the state of Israel itself. I have a problem with the people calling the shots. That in itself is not limited to Israel either, I have a problem with pretty much every nation and the people that make the decisions. You talk to 100 informed people of any nation and 100% will disagree with what their leaders are doing in some regard.

In this situation they had to pick and choose which "laws" they were going to break, and they made their choice. Personally I think it was the wrong way to go about things, and very poor execution, but I don't have to live with that choice. That does not mean I can't condemn it.

Israel murders peace activists in cold blood and doesnt deserve to be demonised??

You should have a look in the mirror my little israeli sympathiser.....

....your nose is growing.....

Originally posted by Eliad
Bull#, bull# and more bull#.

Marmara when he was shot twice in the head, once in the back and in the left leg and foot and that he was shot in the face at point blank range while lying on the ground.

The forensic evidence that establishes that fact is "tattooing around the wound in his face," indicating that the shot was "delivered at point blank range."

"the trajectory of the wound, from bottom to top, together with a vital abrasion to the left shoulder that could be consistent with the bullet exit point, is compatible with the shot being received while he was lying on the ground on his back."

Based on both "forensic and firearm evidence," the fact-finding panel concluded that Dogan's killing and that of five Turkish citizens by the Israeli troops on the Mavi Marmari May 31 "can be characterized as extra-legal, arbitrary and summary executions."

www.truth-out.org...

You can throw up as much fodder as you like. The facts speak for themselves.

Furkan was 18 years old. In Turkey ages are given as the year you are in, not the years you have completed, so in Turkey his age was given as 19.

Furkan was a friendly, well-mannered, intelligent young man and he was also very helpful. He was a good student and he often helped his classmates with their lessons, and he wanted to be a doctor.

www.dailykos.com...

You neglect to bring up the fact that this incident took place in International waters, and is therefore an illegal act of Piracy.

Since when is shooting unarmed civilians at point blank range in the face acceptable?

While unfortunant and sad for the kids family the fact is,this was not a peace flotilla. This ship challenged a military blockade,they were told many many times they would be stopped,each and every one of them chose to challenge a military blockade. This is what happens when you challenge the military, any military.

It matters not weather the blockade is right in your eyes,the blockade was in place and was being enforced,if your gonna challenge it you do it with equal or preferrably superior force or deal with the consequences. Every person who died on that ship deserves a darwin award and if anyone should be charged it should be the captain and the organizers,this blood is on their hands.

reply to post by jambatrumpet


Uh huh, have you ever seen these facts?

Forensics show that Dogan was holding a gun at the time he was shot, gun powder residue around his hand suggests that the gun was fired at least once, this, combined with the bullets extracted from wounded commandos suggests that the gun was fired at the commandos.
It appears that Dogan was first shot once in the leg, but was still firing his gun while lying on the floor, in an attempt to gun down the commandos trying to apprehend him, this is according to several eye witnesses who were aboard the ship, and a blood splatter analysis done on the scene by UN forensics.

My god!!! :O
OMGGG!! ITZ ALL TRU CUZ I RED IT ON TEH BLOGZZZ!!!!111

This was on the blog "This Information", know it?

P.S
I'm not an "Israeli sympathizer" I'm an Israeli.

reply to post by nickoli


All i can say is wow.....

Killing unarmed civilians in International waters is Illegal. Period.

But, go ahead and keep dancing around the facts to justify murder.

reply to post by jambatrumpet


If only they were unarmed..

Keep making facts up to justify your truth..

Originally posted by Eliad
reply to post by jambatrumpet

 

Uh huh, have you ever seen these facts?

Forensics show that Dogan was holding a gun at the time he was shot, gun powder residue around his hand suggests that the gun was fired at least once, this, combined with the bullets extracted from wounded commandos suggests that the gun was fired at the commandos.
It appears that Dogan was first shot once in the leg, but was still firing his gun while lying on the floor, in an attempt to gun down the commandos trying to apprehend him, this is according to several eye witnesses who were aboard the ship, and a blood splatter analysis done on the scene by UN forensics.

My god!!! :O
OMGGG!! ITZ ALL TRU CUZ I RED IT ON TEH BLOGZZZ!!!!111

This was on the blog "This Information", know it?

Wonderful job at countering information reported on by multiple main stream media sources with a fictional unsourced rant.
Bravo!! Well played....

P.S
I'm not an "Israeli sympathizer" I'm an Israeli.

I don't know what that is about... I don't care if your from Sesame Street.

Murder is Murder.

reply to post by jambatrumpet


What mainstream media sites?

Show me evidence! I don't care about eyewitnesses! I want a real autopsy report, I want to see a serious news station reporting it, not AlJazirra, I need evidence! Proof!
I need real proof that there was an execution, I need real proof of this brutality!

How can I believe it when there has been so many lies?
Why are you so eager to believe it?

They do not view this man as a US citizen.

He was born in an arab land.

As if the US cares.. he's not really a whiteman.

reply to post by Agit8dChop


Actually I think he is...

But what if one of the commandos was an American, is it okay for them not to intervene then?

How is the fact that he had an American citizenship relevant?