China, Russia team up on territorial claims

China, Russia team up on territorial claims

www.yomiuri.co.jp

BEIJING--China and Russia are presenting a united front in their claims over Japanese territories through a joint statement on World War II, with China eager to increase pressure on Japan after an incident near the Senkaku Islands, and Russia hoping to curry favor with Beijing as it eyes its neighbor's huge appetite for energy.

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As I said previously, China is finally flexing its muscles and pushing towards US territories, since US is in no position to defend its territories.

I also said previously that US will let go of these Islands, in the hope that China doesn't push even further, but I suspect China with the help of Pakistan will push towards India, that is why the tensions in Indian Kashmir is growing, and Chinese troops are present in Pakistani Kashmir.

China has played its cards very well. Now time to push the US back to its own continent slowly.

Interesting times.

Russian President Dmitry Medvedev and Chinese President Hu Jintao signed the joint statement Monday in China. By doing so, the two leaders sought to emphasize their cooperation based on a shared view of history regarding the victory over Japan. The two sides also signed a joint statement to strengthen their strategic partnership.

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I wonder what the US would do if Russia or China made the invasive moves that they have in the past decade? Throw the toys out? WW3?



They certainly flipped their lid when Russian invaded S. Ossetia, on perfectly understandable grounds.

Interesting times indeed. Thankfully all of the Countries involved are ran first by Diplomacy, and only revert to Acts of War as a last resort.

reply to post by oozyism


Are you calling Japan and India U.S. territories?

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oh wow i might have to unblock oozie if hes realy saying we own japan and india while we have a huge presence in japan and are bound by treaties to protect them we dont own them and as far as INDIA being owned by america thats a crock of bull puckey and the last people to "own" them were the British and they are free now and i dont even think china can tell India what to do as there about equal in tech and manpower and in good fighting troops

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You tell me?

Originally posted by oozyism

As I said previously, China is finally flexing its muscles and pushing towards US territories, since US is in no position to defend its territories.

I also said previously that US will let go of these Islands, in the hope that China doesn't push even further, but I suspect China with the help of Pakistan will push towards India, that is why the tensions in Indian Kashmir is growing, and Chinese troops are present in Pakistani Kashmir.

China has played its cards very well. Now time to push the US back to its own continent slowly.

reply to post by tooo many pills


wasent trying to pick on you i just cant see his posts unless anyone posts it it was more of a question as to why he thought we owned india as thats laughable

Originally posted by tooo many pills
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Are you calling Japan and India U.S. territories?

Are you saying US didn't throw two atomic bombs in Japan and invade it??

I think people are still dreaming..

India is not a US territory, it has allied itself with US.

reply to post by oozyism


Yeah, they are allies, not U.S. territories under our every command.


reply to post by KilrathiLG


I didn't mean it like that. We cool. I was trying to ask if you agreed with my interpretation of what he said by showing you the blocked text you couldn't see.

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Since they are allies, and China is allies with Pakistan, the US is loosing momentum, China can see it, and will push from every side, already going towards the disputed Islands, Indian Kashmir is a mess, under curfew with more Indian troops present than US troops in Afghanistan, and Pakistan threatening ISAF.

Everyone sees that US is getting weaker and weaker, and position themselves to grab the vacuum which will be left behind after they pull back to protect the mainland hence USA.

The point is, that India needs to be destabilized in order for China to grab the vacuum, but the US wants India to grab the vacuum after the departure.

How is this aggression?

Russia and China both have legitimate claims to these territories

Taken from the Potsdam declaration that was signed at the end of WW2

en.wikipedia.org...

"Japanese sovereignty shall be limited to the islands of Honshū, Hokkaidō, Kyūshū, Shikoku and such minor islands as we determine." As had been announced in the Cairo Declaration in 1943, Japan was to be reduced to her pre-1894 territory and stripped of her pre-war empire including Korea and Taiwan, as well as all her recent conquests.

So what does this treaty mean?

It means that Japan cannot control any "minor islands" unless the 4 winners of WW2 (China, Russia, USA, UK) all agree that Japan should get the "minor island".

China and Russia never agreed to give these minor islands to Japan.

Once again Japan is going back on its word, but then thats to be expected from people who deny the Rape of Nanking ever happened and sent ambassaders for peace to the USA right before Pearl harbor,

It is all coming together very well, now US wants India to buy its weapons, US knows it will leave soon therefore wants India to be the Israel of that part of Asia:

“During the visit, Antony held detailed discussions with his US counterpart Gates and reviewed the entire gamut of bilateral defence cooperation, including the progressively increasing trade in military-technical equipment, service to service exchanges, joint military exercises and collaboration in defence technologies,” it said.

“The two principals also exchanged views on the situation in India’s neighbourhood and noted that the expanding bilateral defence cooperation was in mutual interest,” officials said but gave no further details.

www.sindhtoday.net...

While:

Mr Antony, who is visiting Washington for talks aimed at strengthening defence ties between India and the US, complained that some American weapons given to Pakistan to fight the militants were being diverted against India.

www.dawn.com...

I didn't think the US's collapse was that close, well 2015 is pretty close, but they are already planing to give Japan to India, at least for some time, until the US heals back up like USSR which changed its name to Russia after its defeat::

NEW DELHI: India and Japan will have their first army-to-army talks aimed at reviewing the present status of engagements, military cooperation and military security issues, starting here on Tuesday.

www.hindu.com...