Does the Afghans have the right to kills American soldiers?

reply to post by SirTFiedSkeptic


How about grow a set go over there yourself and check out how many people suddam murdered. They treated me with so much love and compassion for saving them, offering to clothe me, feed me, and let my group stay with them.

reply to post by catwhoknows


I have replied to my own thread, because my thread said this:

NO-ONE HAS A RIGHT TO KILL ANYONE.

OK, there are wars, people die - all I am saying is that no-one should be doing it.

STOP ALL WARS!

I know that the sad fact is that humans will never stop wars.

God help us all.

reply to post by MarineSniper12Kills

I sat 700 meters away and just dropped them like flies, no innocent people, only ones who fired first.

Oh boy, are you going to have issues when you grow old(if you do). Brave now but trembling once you understand what you've done. Run along now child, go play a computer game before you can play real life mercenary for some bankers and corrupt politicians.

Edit;

They treated me with so much love and compassion for saving them

And that had nothing to do with the fact that you were carrying weapons, no sir, not at all.

Saving them? Errr, no. Time to mature sonny.

If afghanistan came to liberate us from tyranny and were shooting at you and taking over cities, would you have the right to kill them? Just turn the circumstances around and what would you do? I'm rooting for our Women and Men to kick some ass. I'm biased that way.

Would American citizens have the right to attack Chinese soldiers if they landed on LA ?

Originally posted by EnlightenUp
They'd only shoot them because they hate our freedom,

Why don't you use that freedom and build your own fireworks for July 4th, post the video to Youtube. After the ATF kicks in your door and arrests you for illegally building an explosive device...get back to us on your perceived "Freedom".


Afghanistan is a sovereign nation. Sovereign nations have the right to kill military troops who carry arms in their country.

There was a US Marine who happened to be a Green Card holding Mexican citizen. He died in Iraq and when they did his funeral procession in Mexico...Mexico refused to let our military carry empty firearms for the funeral procession.

If Mexico can tell the US military they can't carry empty firearms in their country...Afghanistan can kill armed military in their country. They've been doing it successfully for thousands of years and have kept everyone out.


We do not have military in Afghanistan "for our Freedom".

A: We've got very little freedom left.
B: Afghanistan has no effect on America.


Saudi Arabia funded 9-11. Afghanistan couldn't fund a long distance phone call to New York.

i spent 9yrs in the British Army infantry,and did two tours of helmand province.i dont begrudge anyone the right to trade fire with me if they think im an invader,had it in N Ireland aswell.what i do hate about them is the cowardly way they plant ied's and scurry away like rats,or take a few shots at you from a distance then hide the ak and pick up a shovel.my first tour there they would actually stand there and have it with you round for round,where our training and tactics would give us the edge,and we well and truly #ed them up every time.thats an enemy you can respect.so i do think they have the right to try and kill you,the way we try for them,like men.but not the right to do it on the sly,by planting bombs like cowards.thanks

Originally posted by richie85
i spent 9yrs in the British Army infantry,and did two tours of helmand province.i dont begrudge anyone the right to trade fire with me if they think im an invader,had it in N Ireland aswell.what i do hate about them is the cowardly way they plant ied's and scurry away like rats,or take a few shots at you from a distance then hide the ak and pick up a shovel.my first tour there they would actually stand there and have it with you round for round,where our training and tactics would give us the edge,and we well and truly #ed them up every time.thats an enemy you can respect.so i do think they have the right to try and kill you,the way we try for them,like men.but not the right to do it on the sly,by planting bombs like cowards.thanks

They want to successfully achieve their aims, as we have spent so much money training, arming, and giving you air and artillery cover they couldn't possibly achieve their aims if they had a stand up fight with you, that's why they chose the methods the use, just like we would if at some point we were invaded by a vastly superior military force, as you know.

reply to post by Thepreye


obviously i understand they are fighting a guerilla war,but as a soldier when you are there you want a stand up fight,its what your trained for.and like i said,my first tour there they did that,and got badly beaten.artillery and air cover,not so much for us mate.mortars and apaches,or the odd bit of US fast air.not really a bombing war over there

reply to post by Pervius


it is a sovereign nation,and the government of that nation want ISAF troops there.i think we were right to go in in 01 i dont think we should still be there now however.to stop terrorism,we need to get alot tougher on saudi,pakistan and iran.i think the afghans there are fighting to get us out.not for global jihad

I dont agree with any killing at all, but at least the afghans are fighting for freedom and to defend their country from foreign invaders. Our european and american troops are just there fighting for money and to help the rich people of our nations become more richer, all though I dont think many of them will realise the later.

Originally posted by MarineSniper12Kills
reply to post by shamus78

 

No not kidding. If you actually fought over there, you would also see how many people try and get us to stay with them, house us and feed us, and why? Because your innocent people are killing there own with there lunatic suicide attacks. Only way to beat a savage is to be a savage. I sat 700 meters away and just dropped them like flies, no innocent people, only ones who fired first. This was iraq although afghanistan is the same in its 3rd world country and religous fanatics killing there own people. Frankly im tired of this" amerika" crap. If you have it so bad then go live in north korea or the congo. Cry then.

The Iraqis also "thanked" over 5,000 American soldiers while you were in Iraq doing your part in crashing the American economy.

Originally posted by richie85
i spent 9yrs in the British Army infantry,and did two tours of helmand province.i dont begrudge anyone the right to trade fire with me if they think im an invader,had it in N Ireland aswell.what i do hate about them is the cowardly way they plant ied's and scurry away like rats,or take a few shots at you from a distance then hide the ak and pick up a shovel.my first tour there they would actually stand there and have it with you round for round,where our training and tactics would give us the edge,and we well and truly #ed them up every time.thats an enemy you can respect.so i do think they have the right to try and kill you,the way we try for them,like men.but not the right to do it on the sly,by planting bombs like cowards.thanks

You had air support. They didn't.

reply to post by ThePeopleParty


Taliban is fighting for power and and resurrection of brutal fundamentalist dictatorship. No freedom, since freedom is the opposite of medieval theocracy regime, and not for people, since majority of ordinary people support the foreign presence over Taliban.

Our european and american troops are just there fighting for money and to help the rich people of our nations become more richer, all though I dont think many of them will realise the later.

If the alternative is allowing Taliban to again opress the innocent, I say let them become more richer.

I'm currently on R&R in the middle of my 3rd Afghanistan tour as part of the Royal Irish battle group, part of 16 Air Assault brigade. I'll be back there in a week or so. A couple of weeks ago I was in regular exchanges of gunfire with insurgents, and we have lost one of our guys to enemy action.

Do I think the average Afghan has the right to shoot at me? No, just in the same way I don't have the right to shoot at them. Does that mean that I won't be shot at? No, just in the same way I will be shooting back. However it isn't the locals who are firing, it's the Taliban.

The average Afghan is a decent sort of person. Generally hard working and, once you get past the differences in thought processes and customs, pretty easy to get on with. They are extremely proud people, but will generally repay trust with trust and respect with respect. I think one of the biggest problems we (and the Americans) had initially was that we had a tendancy to tell the Afghan people what they needed rather than the other way round. We're getting there though. The best thing I've personally found is to be as truthful as possible (within the obvious perameters of operational security of course), and to treat them as equals. After all, I'm no better than them. The average Afghan now has a degree of freedom to live how they want to live that they could never have even imagined under Taliban rule, and in general they seem pretty happy about that.

During our regular shuras (meetings with local elders) we see that the people themselves have no problem with us being there. Indeed they are generall very happy with our presence. They aren't stupid. They realise that it is the Taliban who cause the majority of deaths, either directly using IED, or indirectly by attacking CF patrols from built up areas and using the local nationals as human shields. It has been recognised that we will often refrain from firing if there is the percieved chance of causing local national casualties ("courageous restraint"). If we do have to engage we will use an escalation of force standpoint, meaning that we will use minimal force to achieve our aims. Terry has no such qualms.

So as I said, I don't think the average Afghan has the right to attack me. The good thing is that Stan the average Afghan doesn't actually want to.

reply to post by Zamini


Lol, im sorry I forgot the only war you experience is on your sofa watching cnn. Child? Yes that's why i support a wife and 2 children. Trembling? You talk about fear once you have been shot numerous times. I sleep good at night knowing what I've done, and im honored to do it so you people can play video games and rant about a war you don't have the balls to experience first hand.

reply to post by PaddyInf


You are so correct, the same goes for iraq. The citizens love having us there. We have them offering to let us stay with them on a daily basis. You make many friends over there,

reply to post by PaddyInf


It is funny how people like zamini, the ones who never experience it first hand are the ones that are the quickest to cry and judge

reply to post by MarineSniper12Kills


Erm all your assumptions are dead wrong. You´re still a child inside your head, not being able to determine what´s real or not. You can say you take care of a wife and kids but that is now, wait a few more years until reality hits you. And you were just a sniper, while big tough commandos crack later in their life because once they are wise enough they see through these schemes(that does mean you have to be smart to understand what you're doing).

You´re a mercenary and have killed 12 people for money. NOTHING MORE.

And you didn´t do it so I can play whatever game station I don´t have. Pitiful because you put the 12 kills in your name like some kiddie playing computer games.

It is funny how people like zamini, the ones who never experience it first hand are the ones that are the quickest to cry and judge

The place you're from has not been turned upside down and inside out by soldiers like yourself, but will in the future. Try bragging about those 12 kills to your occupiers. Keep on assuming though.

When that day comes, ill already know my role. And yes, I sleep better at night knowing what I have done.