The Illuminati began in Atlantis...

Originally posted by Segador
If we can call that video a documentary then we can call Glenn Beck a civil rights activist.

Gentlemen...gentlemen! I never said it was a documentary. It's a Rockumentary, because I ROCK! \m/

Woa this thread went 4 pages? Despite all the sheer borderline insanity displayed in some of these ramblings, there is actually some truth to this assertion IMHO. By my way of thinking it works like this:

Lucifer and his fallen angels set up shop in the vicinity of earth and probably corrupted one or more races of intelligent beings prior to man. Indeed the Bible says that the serpent was more subtle than the other creatures. ie the lizardmen were probably smarter than humans and fully under the influence of demons.

At any rate there is considerable evidence that pre-flood civilizations were way more advanced than previously thought. Look at some of the work of Jonathan Gray. We still don't know how some of those South American civilizations got their monolithic stones up on top of some very large mountains, since we do not have the technology today to repeat the feat, and we could go on about the Sphinx and pyramids etc.

Well these civilizations were corrupt and evil, cavorting with demons left and right. They were buds with Lucifer back then, probably called him Lu. They had sex with demons and produced genetic freaks that would wreak havoc on all the land. God wasn't too happy with this situation since he had very specific plans for redeeming all of creation through his lowly human creation. So he engineered worldwide floods to destroy the satanic civilizations that existed on earth. He probably took out some other colonies in space as well, there is even evidence of that, but that's another thread. That's where we get some of the Atlantis legends from. The great, but evil civilizations that were destroyed in the flood.

So when you channel people from Atlantis or do any channeling at all, you have invited a host of demons to party in your soul. (Which is why God specifically forbids divination) Moreover it is quite possible some of these civilizations and perhaps their reptillian overlords survived. That is why the illuminati probably has source material from the original Atlantis, if not actual genetic material.

That's how I see it. Equally crazy to some, but better supported by history and more consistent with the Biblical truth.

Originally posted by SevenThunders
Woa this thread went 4 pages? Despite all the sheer borderline insanity displayed in some of these ramblings, there is actually some truth to this assertion IMHO. By my way of thinking it works like this:

Lucifer and his fallen angels set up shop in the vicinity of earth and probably corrupted one or more races of intelligent beings prior to man. Indeed the Bible says that the serpent was more subtle than the other creatures. ie the lizardmen were probably smarter than humans and fully under the influence of demons.

At any rate there is considerable evidence that pre-flood civilizations were way more advanced than previously thought. Look at some of the work of Jonathan Gray. We still don't know how some of those South American civilizations got their monolithic stones up on top of some very large mountains, since we do not have the technology today to repeat the feat, and we could go on about the Sphinx and pyramids etc.

Well these civilizations were corrupt and evil, cavorting with demons left and right. They were buds with Lucifer back then, probably called him Lu. They had sex with demons and produced genetic freaks that would wreak havoc on all the land. God wasn't too happy with this situation since he had very specific plans for redeeming all of creation through his lowly human creation. So he engineered worldwide floods to destroy the satanic civilizations that existed on earth. He probably took out some other colonies in space as well, there is even evidence of that, but that's another thread. That's where we get some of the Atlantis legends from. The great, but evil civilizations that were destroyed in the flood.

So when you channel people from Atlantis or do any channeling at all, you have invited a host of demons to party in your soul. (Which is why God specifically forbids divination) Moreover it is quite possible some of these civilizations and perhaps their reptillian overlords survived. That is why the illuminati probably has source material from the original Atlantis, if not actual genetic material.

That's how I see it. Equally crazy to some, but better supported by history and more consistent with the Biblical truth.

edit on 25-9-2010 by SevenThunders because: (no reason given)

edit on 25-9-2010 by SevenThunders because: (no reason given)

yes...thank you. Finally someone on here, who is taking this subject seriously. However, I need to point out some things u may have the wrong idea about:

1. Biblical truth?? The Bible is not 100% "gospel" truth, sorry.

2. I am not channeling "people from Atlantis". This is a misunderstanding. I channel my Higher Self. The fact that I was in Atlantis in a distant past life, however, is another thing entirely...

3. Atlantis destroyed itself, because, being overrun as it was by the Satanic "priesthood" that spawned the Illuminati bloodlines, it went towards a self-destructive slant. (Much like the US today, which is overrun by the descendants of this Atlantean priesthood. They all seem to like hanging out together at a park called 'Bohemian Grove' every year, ) No offense, but it wasn't an old guy with a beard, in the clouds, that threw a giant bucket of water over the Atlanteans...

Originally posted by TheNewAeon2012
reply to post by dontreally

 

Yes...but there's one little extra ingredient I have to bring 2 the table. I have clear memories from a past life in Atlantis. (Now, I can see this reply attracting some attention, he-he. Let's play)

Right. These 'memories' are sometimes intimations from a past that doesnt necessarily have to be from a real one, but a completely psychological one. Like in a dream where we, or our imaginations depict scenes and scenarios, which, although told like a story, actually contain bits and pieces of our own inner reality. beneath the imagery, a spiritual force is at work, manipulating the faculty of imagination - which contains memories of all sorts, and some which may derive from a place or time, and create this story being told between yourself and your higher self. This is not always the case in dreams. Quite often its complete nonsense. But in certain times people have great dreams, which speak in a highly allegorical snd symbolic manner.

Likewise, one can enter these states of consciousness by quiting his personal mind, his 'ego' which is distracted by the stimuli of physical existence, when he passes the state of nothingness, he enters a realm of complete quietude, an inner amplification of all thats within him. Memories, thoughts, and most especially AXIOMS, or what Jung called archetypes, which the kabbalah calls angels, can be interacted with. These interactions are sometimes very subtle, occuring in a synthesiatic type manner, or can be a simple feeling or at other times a profound vision, voice etc.

I think this 'experience' of Atlantis could very well be an inner dramatization of the spiritual state identified atlantis. Because your mind is focused on this, naturally, the archetype will be 'awakened' and will communicate to you via images, sounds and experiences which, when interpreted psychologically, can appear as a memory.

Im not an expert in this field. I havent personally made any attempts of learning about my past lives. I certainly do believe in reincarnation and in mans ability to trace back his Nefesh to an earlier incarnation. But, the question remains. Atlantis is entirely mythological. How is you got back to that period and not your previous incarnations?? Or did you 'scroll' back through llives to achieve this epiphant of your past life in atlantis.

There is simply no appreciable archeological, or anthropological proof to justify the existence of Atlantis. Its a sensationalized theory exploited by intelligent deceitful men to make a buck.

Just so you know. 'archetypes' do create scenarios, and create 'memories' or experiences in sometimes the most fantastic environments that you had never consciously experienced in your life.

I had a dream about a month or two ago where i was literally lifted from my bed and brought to this alternate dimension. While there, i was being guided by this fellow. I associated him with my soul, or higher self. He led me throughout this mystical realm until we stopped at the ocean shore. In front of us was an oceanic abyss that stretech on seemingly to infinity. I than saw a UFO (or so it appeared to me) come to me out of the heavens. This symbolized to me the awarenss that comes to one when he realizes his inherent futility .This brought me even further, beyond and transcending the finite bounds that the contrast between the land and sea had enunciated. I was than in space. I was in this wonderful craft that looked to me like a ship of light - like the soul, which is pure light. I was travelling than through the cosmos seeing an unbelievable geometric consisteny. Space = spiritual realm. I saw the heavens oriented in the sefirotic type fashion, indicating not only the parralel between the physical and the spiritual, but of the supreme beauty and majesty of the spiritual realm. It is so ordered and gorgeous. I was than off on my own outside the craft with another, appeared to be an angel, guiding me through the solar system. It was a wonderous dream, that, i know full well never actually happened. It symptomatic of mans spiritual reality. It Dramatizes mans inner life as a real living organism. It reveals to me, sometimes in a veyr concealed and wayword fashion, sometimes not at all, but at other times in a miraculous wonderful manner.

Just a dream, but a beautiful spiritually meaningful one....

Originally posted by TheNewAeon2012

Originally posted by SevenThunders
Woa this thread went 4 pages? Despite all the sheer borderline insanity displayed in some of these ramblings, there is actually some truth to this assertion IMHO. By my way of thinking it works like this:

Lucifer and his fallen angels set up shop in the vicinity of earth and probably corrupted one or more races of intelligent beings prior to man. Indeed the Bible says that the serpent was more subtle than the other creatures. ie the lizardmen were probably smarter than humans and fully under the influence of demons.

At any rate there is considerable evidence that pre-flood civilizations were way more advanced than previously thought. Look at some of the work of Jonathan Gray. We still don't know how some of those South American civilizations got their monolithic stones up on top of some very large mountains, since we do not have the technology today to repeat the feat, and we could go on about the Sphinx and pyramids etc.

Well these civilizations were corrupt and evil, cavorting with demons left and right. They were buds with Lucifer back then, probably called him Lu. They had sex with demons and produced genetic freaks that would wreak havoc on all the land. God wasn't too happy with this situation since he had very specific plans for redeeming all of creation through his lowly human creation. So he engineered worldwide floods to destroy the satanic civilizations that existed on earth. He probably took out some other colonies in space as well, there is even evidence of that, but that's another thread. That's where we get some of the Atlantis legends from. The great, but evil civilizations that were destroyed in the flood.

So when you channel people from Atlantis or do any channeling at all, you have invited a host of demons to party in your soul. (Which is why God specifically forbids divination) Moreover it is quite possible some of these civilizations and perhaps their reptillian overlords survived. That is why the illuminati probably has source material from the original Atlantis, if not actual genetic material.

That's how I see it. Equally crazy to some, but better supported by history and more consistent with the Biblical truth.

edit on 25-9-2010 by SevenThunders because: (no reason given)

edit on 25-9-2010 by SevenThunders because: (no reason given)

yes...thank you. Finally someone on here, who is taking this subject seriously. However, I need to point out some things u may have the wrong idea about:

1. Biblical truth?? The Bible is not 100% "gospel" truth, sorry.

2. I am not channeling "people from Atlantis". This is a misunderstanding. I channel my Higher Self. The fact that I was in Atlantis in a distant past life, however, is another thing entirely...

3. Atlantis destroyed itself, because, being overrun as it was by the Satanic "priesthood" that spawned the Illuminati bloodlines, it went towards a self-destructive slant. (Much like the US today, which is overrun by the descendants of this Atlantean priesthood. They all seem to like hanging out together at a park called 'Bohemian Grove' every year,

) No offense, but it wasn't an old guy with a beard, in the clouds, that threw a giant bucket of water over the Atlanteans...



Just wanted to let u know that u are right about what u say,didnt know that Noah’s aka blood flowed in the blood of the illuminati didn’t understand, sorry.
I also didn’t no that the owl thing is also the illumnati/noahs blood of the earth.
I also didn’t no that they was a form of a harpy evolved race back in the days?
And because of u my whole theory on frequencies is out the door as far as the pyramids as the only source of a giant frequenci breaker and because they even named something after there selves in the world called harrpy or harppy, don’t know i have to realy look in to this...sorry.

I really didn’t know that Noah’s descendents was the illuminati all together but it makes so much sense now the pyramids that was built to block our godly side and now this harp project thing there working on.



I swear I should of known something was up with them ive called them the owl people for ages and to find out why they no so much information is why I will

Also, dont forget that in every generation the mystics 'recreate' the mythology to fit the needs of teh times.. Old mythos dont resonate with the new generation, so new one is created .One that is 'real'. Now, it can be 'real' in one of two ways. It can be real in the sense that the person acknwoledges the veracity of something. So, Greek politicians say Zeus and Hera are our Gods. They are the formers of our society. all our good comes from both of them, but only when they are united. To someone who hears this, the mystical reality underlying this myth isnt percievable to them. But, with the force of public opinion, something readily agreed upon, by the LEADERS, is than taken as fact by the ignorant masses. They partake and engage in ritual, just as todays religious are (and even the secular) but without having a shade of understanding of what the meaning of their actions, the symbol, or the god is all about.

Now, this is the case for every single generation of human kind. Theres not a single area on a single piece of land where this was not always the case. Today, were living in a period of apparent chaos. The 'spiritual' has apparently been displaced by the logical, technology has ousted the soul, and biology has even questioned mans inherent superiority over the animals. So, mans 'mythos' of our day would need to appeal to this psychologial temperment. This 'spiritual environment ' which ironic is so antispiritual. What we have today is a full blown luciferianism, a return to the pagan cults of Greec, Babylon and Egypt.

One thing i found especially interesting about this 'story' about atlantis, is how much it resembles archetypally the stories of the ancients. Ill use the book of Genesis as an example (this is drawn upon in other traditions in a somewhat varied way). Atlantis is Gan Eden, the garden of eden. All the details plato provides describe this spiritual reality. The 'fall' from Grace is the temptation which occured through the snake. This refers ultimately to the evil inclination which draws man in a stupid and self destructive direction. This state of consciousness is an excision from the wisdom that accompanied gan Edan or Atlantis. Now, in your story, Atlantis was beautiful. A Grand council ruled it and everyone was at peace and happy. until the 'dark' satanic illuminati took control. this parralls the 'snake' in genesis. Its just this archetypal scene is conveyed in a much different outfit. With todays technical language, it can come off as very believable if one isnt equainted with the wisdom of compartitive mythology, mysticism and a knowledge of how the elites, Freemasons, etc, feed these stories to the gullible to persuade them in whatever mind trap they have set up. Than you refer to Egypt and how these people went there after the collapse of atlantis. This again is so amazingly allegorical. Eden is a pure spiritual awarness, as is Atlantis. East of teh garden of Eden is the 'egoic' state of consciousness, associated with physical existence. Likewise, Egypt, "mitzrayim' in Hebrew, means 'limitation'. It exemplifies the very concept of the physical which is limited by laws and rules called 'nature'. Egypt is nature, and in this world, in our natural egoic consciousness, man has to restablish itself.

This is all allegory my friend. You dont get memories of past lives by concentrating on themes. that instead will connect you with a memory, or in the case of atlantis, a dramatization of the very archetype of atlantis. By defintion, to learn of a previous life requires no information. You dont know anything. Its only by exploring and digging deeper that you begin to reassemble bits and pieces. It doesnt arrive all at once either. But slowly.

you thinking of atlantis mainly bubbled up the archetype. The same could be down with any archetypal themes apart of our collective unconscious. Think of the 'holy grail' or the fountain of you, or the 'philsophers stone', or, if your a christian, the experiencev of Christ crucifixtion ca be so intense that one actually bleeds - its called stigmata and its a real phenomena. The Archetype - the god, manifests in real time in ones life. this is what UFOS and alien abductions are about. A psychosomatic experience, interaction with a demonic power. Being invaded and attacked by it symbolizes some inner state that requires correction. This occured all the time in ancient times as 'demons' 'devils'. Does this happen nowadays? Yes, to a catholic it would be a demon, to one conditioned by popular culture, especially things like 'aliens' hell experience it in todays cultural language, as 'aliens' abducting him' correlating with teh spiritual nature of possession. A emotional power, a 'demon' associated with a fallen spiritual state - lust, envy, depression, etc, possesses and incites you towards a specific actiohn. This archetypal power thus controls every last bit of you. you simply act out the impulse, the numinous charge, which preceded your will to act. Its these being which are demons. How they choose to manifest is whatever the language and culture of your times provide.

Thus, those who control culture literally in every way control the human being. Our very spiritually life is rife with images of their creation.

Originally posted by Immortalgemini527

Originally posted by TheNewAeon2012

Originally posted by SevenThunders
Woa this thread went 4 pages? Despite all the sheer borderline insanity displayed in some of these ramblings, there is actually some truth to this assertion IMHO. By my way of thinking it works like this:

Lucifer and his fallen angels set up shop in the vicinity of earth and probably corrupted one or more races of intelligent beings prior to man. Indeed the Bible says that the serpent was more subtle than the other creatures. ie the lizardmen were probably smarter than humans and fully under the influence of demons.

At any rate there is considerable evidence that pre-flood civilizations were way more advanced than previously thought. Look at some of the work of Jonathan Gray. We still don't know how some of those South American civilizations got their monolithic stones up on top of some very large mountains, since we do not have the technology today to repeat the feat, and we could go on about the Sphinx and pyramids etc.

Well these civilizations were corrupt and evil, cavorting with demons left and right. They were buds with Lucifer back then, probably called him Lu. They had sex with demons and produced genetic freaks that would wreak havoc on all the land. God wasn't too happy with this situation since he had very specific plans for redeeming all of creation through his lowly human creation. So he engineered worldwide floods to destroy the satanic civilizations that existed on earth. He probably took out some other colonies in space as well, there is even evidence of that, but that's another thread. That's where we get some of the Atlantis legends from. The great, but evil civilizations that were destroyed in the flood.

So when you channel people from Atlantis or do any channeling at all, you have invited a host of demons to party in your soul. (Which is why God specifically forbids divination) Moreover it is quite possible some of these civilizations and perhaps their reptillian overlords survived. That is why the illuminati probably has source material from the original Atlantis, if not actual genetic material.

That's how I see it. Equally crazy to some, but better supported by history and more consistent with the Biblical truth.

edit on 25-9-2010 by SevenThunders because: (no reason given)

edit on 25-9-2010 by SevenThunders because: (no reason given)

yes...thank you. Finally someone on here, who is taking this subject seriously. However, I need to point out some things u may have the wrong idea about:

1. Biblical truth?? The Bible is not 100% "gospel" truth, sorry.

2. I am not channeling "people from Atlantis". This is a misunderstanding. I channel my Higher Self. The fact that I was in Atlantis in a distant past life, however, is another thing entirely...

3. Atlantis destroyed itself, because, being overrun as it was by the Satanic "priesthood" that spawned the Illuminati bloodlines, it went towards a self-destructive slant. (Much like the US today, which is overrun by the descendants of this Atlantean priesthood. They all seem to like hanging out together at a park called 'Bohemian Grove' every year,

) No offense, but it wasn't an old guy with a beard, in the clouds, that threw a giant bucket of water over the Atlanteans...



Just wanted to let u know that u are right about what u say,didnt know that Noah’s aka blood flowed in the blood of the illuminati didn’t understand, sorry.
I also didn’t no that the owl thing is also the illumnati/noahs blood of the earth.
I also didn’t no that they was a form of a harpy evolved race back in the days?
And because of u my whole theory on frequencies is out the door as far as the pyramids as the only source of a giant frequenci breaker and because they even named something after there selves in the world called harrpy or harppy, don’t know i have to realy look in to this...sorry.

I really didn’t know that Noah’s descendents was the illuminati all together but it makes so much sense now the pyramids that was built to block our godly side and now this harp project thing there working on.



I swear I should of known something was up with them ive called them the owl people for ages and to find out why they no so much information is why I will

edit on 26-9-2010 by Immortalgemini527 because: (no reason given)

edit on 26-9-2010 by Immortalgemini527 because: (no reason given)

um...wtf??! Descendants of Noah? Who sad they're descendants of Noah??? Where did I state that exactly? Noah lived on the opposite side of the world and has nothing to do with Atlantis, I'm afraid. Watch this, it gives some insight on what happened in Atlantis and how the Illuminati started:



I hope this will help.

reply to post by TheNewAeon2012


U just woudnt understand.I dont ned to look at a video,u opened my eyes to something else.thanks

Originally posted by Immortalgemini527
reply to post by TheNewAeon2012

 

U just woudnt understand.I dont ned to look at a video,u opened my eyes to something else.thanks

I'm glad I helped u with understanding something. This is the whole point why I am doing all of this, i.e: to help people "get" Aquarius better. But the video in question is part of the video series that this whole thread is based on, anyway. It couldn't be more relevant. If u check my original post, u'll see.

Also, trust me, I'll probably understand. I know more than u mite think. Try me...

maybe send me a pm explaining more about your position on this Noah/Atlantis connection. I have an idea of what u may mean but I just might not agree that's all...

But, tel me more please.

Originally posted by Immortalgemini527
reply to post by TheNewAeon2012

 

Noahs ark was atlantis when it crashed along time ago doing its long term mission to seed earth,that one shiped was found in germany which started the all rocketry and stuff and how germany had the smartest scientist in the world if u was right about this ,then 2 things wouldnt of never happened.
1. Nasa woudnt of blew the moon up.
2.The usa woudnt of disrepted the birth and home of noah/enoch, Iraq.

In this thread we are taking their existence for granted. We know they are real, but where do they come from really?

We have all wondered how long the Illuminati have been around for. We have all heard that pathetic disinformation about some really smart guy called Weishaupt...we have even been told that they may stem from Babylonian times.

But I say emphatically that they are from Atlantis, my friends! Please feel free to check out my video series about this here: www.youtube.com...


This information needs to be known ASAP by as many people as possible, trust me. Please let me know what you thought of the info and let's start an interesting debate shall we?...


It was just something u said but something i realized and i just put it together from earlier,thats it.

Originally posted by Immortalgemini527

Originally posted by Immortalgemini527
reply to post by TheNewAeon2012

 

Noahs ark was atlantis when it crashed along time ago doing its long term mission to seed earth,that one shiped was found in germany which started the all rocketry and stuff and how germany had the smartest scientist in the world if u was right about this ,then 2 things wouldnt of never happened.
1. Nasa woudnt of blew the moon up.
2.The usa woudnt of disrepted the birth and home of noah/enoch, Iraq.

In this thread we are taking their existence for granted. We know they are real, but where do they come from really?

We have all wondered how long the Illuminati have been around for. We have all heard that pathetic disinformation about some really smart guy called Weishaupt...we have even been told that they may stem from Babylonian times.

But I say emphatically that they are from Atlantis, my friends! Please feel free to check out my video series about this here: www.youtube.com...


This information needs to be known ASAP by as many people as possible, trust me. Please let me know what you thought of the info and let's start an interesting debate shall we?...


It was just something u said but something i realized and i just put it together from earlier,thats it.

Oh, ok.

so i take you ignoring my posts as me completely blowing your argument up....

Originally posted by dontreally
so i take you ignoring my posts as me completely blowing your argument up....

edit on 26-9-2010 by dontreally because: (no reason given)

I say the people you are ignoring would give very special knowledge,dont really has enlightened me a lot to many subjects,why post on here? If you wont talk about other veiw points .
That is brain washing what your doing.
Even the illuminati let you have freedom of experience,its your choice if its good or bad.
By the way your acting,you would not grant this........
Hello dontreally
Hope your well mate

Originally posted by johnny c

Originally posted by dontreally
so i take you ignoring my posts as me completely blowing your argument up....

edit on 26-9-2010 by dontreally because: (no reason given)

I say the people you are ignoring would give very special knowledge,dont really has enlightened me a lot to many subjects,why post on here? If you wont talk about other veiw points .
That is brain washing what your doing.
Even the illuminati let you have freedom of experience,its your choice if its good or bad.
By the way your acting,you would not grant this........
Hello dontreally

Hope your well mate

edit on 15/8/2010 by johnny c because: my link broke

Take it or leave it, but what I'm gonna say below is the truth:

Before I saw dontreally's latest post, I hadn't even read his other posts aside from a quick glance. If u think I'm sitting and painstakingly reading every single opinion on forums 24/7, oh well...

There are so many people that have ridiculous ideas about Atlantis being a "myth", etc, that I'd have to make replying on my own threads a "full time job", in order to answer to all of them. I'm not interested, sorry. I'm not on ATS to endlessly debate with no end.

I'm the one doing the brainwashing?? And all this bull about Plato inventing Atlantis as a "literary device" is NOT the worst of Illuminati brainwashing??Yeah, good one!

The last thing I will say about all this, is that I've even had clear past life memories from Atlantis, so whenever I see anything posted about this "myth" bullsh*t, like Masonic Light's posts, for instance (btw isn't the name "masoniclight" suspect?? who is this guy really?), I barely even read through them and just move on to the next one. That's my final verdict, sorry. I started this thread to attract people who already accept Atlantis is real, not to debate about outmoded ideas that belong in the dying Piscean Age.

Over and out...

Originally posted by TheNewAeon2012

Originally posted by johnny c

Originally posted by dontreally
so i take you ignoring my posts as me completely blowing your argument up....

edit on 26-9-2010 by dontreally because: (no reason given)

I say the people you are ignoring would give very special knowledge,dont really has enlightened me a lot to many subjects,why post on here? If you wont talk about other veiw points .
That is brain washing what your doing.
Even the illuminati let you have freedom of experience,its your choice if its good or bad.
By the way your acting,you would not grant this........
Hello dontreally

Hope your well mate

edit on 15/8/2010 by johnny c because: my link broke

Take it or leave it, but what I'm gonna say below is the truth:

Before I saw dontreally's latest post, I hadn't even read his other posts aside from a quick glance. If u think I'm sitting and painstakingly reading every single opinion on forums 24/7, oh well...

There are so many people that have ridiculous ideas about Atlantis being a "myth", etc, that I'd have to make replying on my own threads a "full time job", in order to answer to all of them. I'm not interested, sorry. I'm not on ATS to endlessly debate with no end.

I'm the one doing the brainwashing?? And all this bull about Plato inventing Atlantis as a "literary device" is NOT the worst of Illuminati brainwashing??Yeah, good one!

The last thing I will say about all this, is that I've even had clear past life memories from Atlantis, so whenever I see anything posted about this "myth" bullsh*t, like Masonic Light's posts, for instance (btw isn't the name "masoniclight" suspect?? who is this guy really?), I barely even read through them and just move on to the next one. That's my final verdict, sorry. I started this thread to attract people who already accept Atlantis is real, not to debate about outmoded ideas that belong in the dying Piscean Age.

Over and out...

So, your an uneducated pseudo intellectual who worships his own theories - however dimwitted and unscholarly they may be. If you just looked at my post and cared to appreciate the dynamic connections i made, you would understand that the essence of myth is ALLEGORY.

Do you want me to aswell give literal credence to the following characters of myth?

Gnomes, Trolls, vampires, werewolves, Santa, elves, giants, women with snake hair, etc etc. Its so many. If you give literal credence to atlantis, without any evidence, then your simply selective - subjective, and therefore full of sh*t.

And again. Atlantis is an archetype of the self. Read Jung you ignormus. If you concetrate on a figure of mythology, like atlantis, or the holy grail, you can be transported to the thought form associated with it. Because theories of atlantis and aquarian mythology have been so developed over the last 150 years, theres a whole database of imagery and themes to be met with when one meditates on thought. Same thing with the holy grail. try it. The archetype is a real thing. It simply uses imagery to associate with man. the ancients deified these powers and called them 'gods'. I gave you an example of christians. To some christian mystics ascetics, the experience of 'christs' crucifixtion, is so intense that they literally manifest the marks of 'christs' experience. Of course, the marks are symbolic of a reality. Because the persdon relates to this archetypal reality in such a fashion, in some extreme cases, the archetype literally manifests itself physically. this also exists in other cultures. Today theres the phenomena, which i know you talk very literally, of 'alien abduction'. Funny that so many report being anally probed. In mystic symbolism, the anal is associated with the demonic. Thus, for one to be taken advantage of in that area, symbolizes the very nature of the 'encounter' - the alien is a modern symbol of a demonic power - interacting with a person in a very real and vivid way. Sometimes the marks are literally left. the spiritual force actually imposing a very real physical mark on its subject.

This is how 'magick' works. I know, cause ive seen it and understand its mechanics.

You can ignore all thuis and say its 'illuminati' propaganda all you like. Educated people will appeciate for what it is. A real phenomena that has a repository of evidence from the ancient times till now. Men being contacted by shedim. angels appearing physically. Summoning of spirits. Theyre unconscious powers encoded in mans inner nature. Theyre preconscious. 'theyre' the gods the pagans like to call them.

You could have just said that.

Originally posted by dontreally
So, your an uneducated pseudo intellectual who worships his own theories - however dimwitted and unscholarly they may be.

Pot, meet Kettle. Kettle, Pot. You two should get along just fine…

Originally posted by JoshNorton

Originally posted by dontreally
So, your an uneducated pseudo intellectual who worships his own theories - however dimwitted and unscholarly they may be.

Pot, meet Kettle. Kettle, Pot. You two should get along just fine…

uh, right.

Originally posted by dontreally

Originally posted by TheNewAeon2012

Originally posted by johnny c

Originally posted by dontreally
so i take you ignoring my posts as me completely blowing your argument up....

edit on 26-9-2010 by dontreally because: (no reason given)

I say the people you are ignoring would give very special knowledge,dont really has enlightened me a lot to many subjects,why post on here? If you wont talk about other veiw points .
That is brain washing what your doing.
Even the illuminati let you have freedom of experience,its your choice if its good or bad.
By the way your acting,you would not grant this........
Hello dontreally

Hope your well mate

edit on 15/8/2010 by johnny c because: my link broke

Take it or leave it, but what I'm gonna say below is the truth:

Before I saw dontreally's latest post, I hadn't even read his other posts aside from a quick glance. If u think I'm sitting and painstakingly reading every single opinion on forums 24/7, oh well...

There are so many people that have ridiculous ideas about Atlantis being a "myth", etc, that I'd have to make replying on my own threads a "full time job", in order to answer to all of them. I'm not interested, sorry. I'm not on ATS to endlessly debate with no end.

I'm the one doing the brainwashing?? And all this bull about Plato inventing Atlantis as a "literary device" is NOT the worst of Illuminati brainwashing??Yeah, good one!

The last thing I will say about all this, is that I've even had clear past life memories from Atlantis, so whenever I see anything posted about this "myth" bullsh*t, like Masonic Light's posts, for instance (btw isn't the name "masoniclight" suspect?? who is this guy really?), I barely even read through them and just move on to the next one. That's my final verdict, sorry. I started this thread to attract people who already accept Atlantis is real, not to debate about outmoded ideas that belong in the dying Piscean Age.

Over and out...

So, your an uneducated pseudo intellectual who worships his own theories - however dimwitted and unscholarly they may be. If you just looked at my post and cared to appreciate the dynamic connections i made, you would understand that the essence of myth is ALLEGORY.

Do you want me to aswell give literal credence to the following characters of myth?

Gnomes, Trolls, vampires, werewolves, Santa, elves, giants, women with snake hair, etc etc. Its so many. If you give literal credence to atlantis, without any evidence, then your simply selective - subjective, and therefore full of sh*t.

And again. Atlantis is an archetype of the self. Read Jung you ignormus. If you concetrate on a figure of mythology, like atlantis, or the holy grail, you can be transported to the thought form associated with it. Because theories of atlantis and aquarian mythology have been so developed over the last 150 years, theres a whole database of imagery and themes to be met with when one meditates on thought. Same thing with the holy grail. try it. The archetype is a real thing. It simply uses imagery to associate with man. the ancients deified these powers and called them 'gods'. I gave you an example of christians. To some christian mystics ascetics, the experience of 'christs' crucifixtion, is so intense that they literally manifest the marks of 'christs' experience. Of course, the marks are symbolic of a reality. Because the persdon relates to this archetypal reality in such a fashion, in some extreme cases, the archetype literally manifests itself physically. this also exists in other cultures. Today theres the phenomena, which i know you talk very literally, of 'alien abduction'. Funny that so many report being anally probed. In mystic symbolism, the anal is associated with the demonic. Thus, for one to be taken advantage of in that area, symbolizes the very nature of the 'encounter' - the alien is a modern symbol of a demonic power - interacting with a person in a very real and vivid way. Sometimes the marks are literally left. the spiritual force actually imposing a very real physical mark on its subject.

This is how 'magick' works. I know, cause ive seen it and understand its mechanics.

You can ignore all thuis and say its 'illuminati' propaganda all you like. Educated people will appeciate for what it is. A real phenomena that has a repository of evidence from the ancient times till now. Men being contacted by shedim. angels appearing physically. Summoning of spirits. Theyre unconscious powers encoded in mans inner nature. Theyre preconscious. 'theyre' the gods the pagans like to call them.

You could have just said that.

I know what this is...you're just hurt because I "ignored you" aren't u?

Yes...I'm an uneducated pseudo-intellectual who worships his own theories - however dimwitted and unscholarly they may be.

Thank you SO much for teaching me that Santa, Gnomes & Atlantis aren't real. Thank God you're here buddy! Where would I be without you, great genius, full of "scholarly" theories (which are 100% in keeping with the "official line" strangely enough, thus triumphantly proving you ARE MERELY AN INTELLIGENT SHEEP!).

Oh yeah...and I'll remember to read Jung too, of course. I need to make a note of that. Because I FU**ING needed YOU to tell me that Jung is worth reading, you see. Thank you so much. Gee, I was totally blind before you illuminated me with all those "dynamic" (what an exquisite word...just marvelous, I must say) connections u made.

By the way, for anyone else who is reading this amusing reply (it's all about having fun above all, of course) of mine, this proves the point I made in my previous post: that if I go down this road, it will just never end.

The only way to stop this, is if I agree with this guy 100% or just simply ignore the majority of posts like these (which is my usual policy, anyway, for obvious reasons). I realize forums are for debating but sometimes there's a frikin' limit. If people don't agree with my ideas, fine, I don't care in the least as long as they are polite about it. But I can't keep replying to every single post just to make them feel important. Just as YOU have your right to write anything u feel like on your posts, I ALSO have the right to choose which posts to reply to. End of story. You can't force me to reply to everyone. This is fair. Fair-minded people will recognize this.

Sorry if I "ignored you" dontreally, I've been busy with work. maybe I can get u some flowers and u'll forgive me...

P.S: Is your name short for dontreallyknowsh*t??

Originally posted by JoshNorton

Originally posted by dontreally
So, your an uneducated pseudo intellectual who worships his own theories - however dimwitted and unscholarly they may be.

Pot, meet Kettle. Kettle, Pot. You two should get along just fine…

Ha ha ha Loads of fun!

See, while I already know u will never see eye to eye with me (judging from your original post) I find it SO much fun that u at least recognize that our good friend dontreally(knowagodda*nthingactually) is completely full of it. Good work!

reply to post by johnny c

Do you even know what enligtment is ? you got a small gland in your head, it;'s like a lamp. you become holow by opening up the fuse while your essence go's away. You become a machine, zombie. You give your self up for enligtment, and the worst part is that you can only see one side of the coin but not the other, you think you know it all but you don't, the dark go's away forever and you will not know what is in the dark because you have chosen a side, it's enlightment. Not only that but by doing this you give up the human factor, what makes you, your self.

EN-english EN-lightment. The enlighten. The royal enlightment. American revolution never happened, you are ruled by the same people, the royals, they play you like a deck of cards. Like a game of bridge, shall we play a game ? why mate I'm "de-lighted"

I'll have a good laugh when this is over, it is you that is paying the price.
The only thing is that you re-birth as a zombie, I as a human, I continiue to have all the fun and the joy while you walk around as a robot. I the monkey am more inteligent, I am god's creation in the balance.