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Originally posted by kbear
i've always been fascinated with ancient egypt and the great pyramids at giza. i've read numerous books and watched every thing i could find and i really have never been convinced that those ancient egyptians built the pyramids without help. considering the tools they had at the time and the fact that they did not leave one shred of evidence how they were built seems strange. they recorded every aspect of their lives and left numerous records but nothing about how the pyramids were built?? wouldn't they want to pass on that info to their children? wouldn't they be proud of their accomplishments?? and how were they able to be so precise--a feat that engineers today say would be very hard. not too mention just how they moved the huge blocks with just man power. i believe they were very intelligent but it's just really odd that they left no record of how they built their biggest accomplishment... and i'm not really speculating on who or what helped them, there are plenty of wild theories out there. i don't buy the theory that they were burial tombs either for pharoahs on an ego trip because no bodies were ever found in them, so what was their purpose? i doubt we'll ever know for sure unless a major discovery is made and i do hope that happens. i hope it's someone other than dr. hawass! although he will find a way to take credit for it. anyway, this is my first post here and i have really enjoyed reading here!
Originally posted by spikey
reply to post by adigregorio
They mention that the entire pyramid was filled with water, and the boats were used the entire time.
That sounds fine...i'm curious as to how they floated the boats in this 'pond', when they were filling the interior with blocks..the pyramids are not an outer casing, with a hollow interior.
Originally posted by spikey
reply to post by adigregorio
This system used by the Original Builders is simple but very sophisticated.
Simple and sophisticated..ok..an oxymoron much?
Originally posted by spikey
reply to post by oniongrass
Moving huge blocks from a quarry and lifting them into position?
Child's play, whatever time period it is.
1.) Strap a cradle of tree trunks to the block being moved, with two sets of two parallel logs/trunks, long enough to run the length of the block being moved or slightly longer, attache these to the cradle which is attached to the block, just inside each lateral edge of the block, ensuring there is a gap between each of the trunks in each set.
(the gap distance will change depending on the size of the block to be moved.
2.) Construct the same two sets of parallel tree trunks, but set on the ground, either supported underneath by blocks of stone or rows of logs.
3.) Fashion/Sculpt a quantity of stone spheres, of a hard mineral, large enough to fit into the gap between all four sets of parallel trunks, to a depth of one quarter of the sphere's overall size, of which is dependent on the size and weight of the block being moved.
4.) Place under the block, cradle and parallel trunk sets, a quantity of the spheres.
5.) A relatively light effort is now required to move the block. The spheres act as ball bearings, and the parallel trunks act as rail guides to prevent the block falling off the spheres.
6.) As the block progressed along it's track, workers would collect the spheres behind the block, and place them in front of the block.
7.) Build a course of the pyramid, adding rows of trunk tracks vertically against the block face of the first course.
8.) Move the blocks into position and carry on up the first course of blocks, using a counterweight of easy to move smaller blocks or containerized sand in small containers.
9.) Repeat until the structure is complete.
Simple, cheap and effective and well within their capability. No ramps larger than the structure itself required. No requirement for thousands of workers, dragging blocks either, so no requirement for massive farming to feed the non existent massive workforce. The blocks would move quite freely and easily, small teams of men or oxen would be all that is needed to move the blocks.
Moving the goalposts, also known as raising the bar, is an informal logically fallacious argument in which evidence presented in response to a specific claim is dismissed and some other (often greater) evidence is demanded. In other words, after an attempt has been made to score a goal, the goalposts are moved to exclude the attempt. This attempts to leave the impression that an argument had a fair hearing while actually reaching a preordained conclusion.
.... the Pyramids was a bridge to a Star Gate to other planets like Mars and the Moon...
Originally posted by christinaV
yes the pyramids were built by some entity with great powers,
but the important question is for what?
Originally posted by zatara
Maybe we should ask ourselves for what reason the builder made sure there is nothing to be found of its origin or purpose.
Originally posted by zatara
For leaving this rock....?
Originally posted by zataraOnly in Egypt does technology go in reverse, starting with a perfect structure, then declining from there. Another point the 'experts' wash over
Originally posted by Turiddu
Nonsense, advanced civilizations have collapsed all over the world and at various points of history.
Originally posted by zatara
Ofcourse the egyptians claim to have built them because in this time they have something to show the world of how clever the egyptians are (read: once were).
Anyways,...it is very strange alltogether that there is nothing to be found which gives a clue of who built it and how, It is certainly something to be proud of and it wouldn't be misplaced if the inside of the pyramid was full of indications of who built, why and what for.
Maybe we should ask ourselves for what reason the builder made sure there is nothing to be found of its origin or purpose.
Originally posted by 11118
Ra: I am Ra. The pyramids which we thought/built were constructed from thought-forms created by our social memory complex.
I suppose, in this imaginative view, the "ancients" also had EVA suits, so as not to DIE from asphyxiation and the lack of atmospheric pressure, on Moon and Mars????