Containing Iran

Containing Iran

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Not for the first time, Iran is indicating its willingness to enter talks with the west about its nuclear programme. The last of umpteen rounds collapsed in 2009, prompting the UN to adopt new sanctions in June. The US simultaneously introduced measures barring access to its financial system for firms doing business with blacklisted Iranian companies. These sanctions are now beginning to bite, which may explain Tehran’s change of heart.

There are also welcome signs of greater international cohesion in the moves to contain Iran

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Well Iran has played a great game but now it seems it has to COOPERATE. Russia recently suspended it's sales of S-300 Missiles as well as many other arms to Iran. Now they are feeling the heat from the international community.

The world is simply asking for Cooperation nothing more nothing less.

Sure there are plenty of rumors especially here at ATS of an attack which will happen any second YAWN.

Ahmadinejad can go the UN and spout all kinds of rhetoric but in the end the global community is getting tired of his BS.


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For more info on the non sale of S-300 missiles to Iran.
U.S. welcomes Russia's ban on S-300 missile sales to Iran

reply to post by SLAYER69


I am exhausted with Iran. Let them have Nukes, who cares. We still have enough nukes to obliterate the world over. Iran gets much more mileage out of threatening to develop Nukes than they do actually doing it. I am tired of the shakedown.

While A. is at the UN making speeches that delegations are walking out on, who's back home making the deals that are being made between the various players at the table?

reply to post by SLAYER69


Honestly I think that Iran provides a bit of needed balance in the Middle East. We tolerate Israels nukes.... and lets be really honest here.....Jews commit as many crimes against humanity as any other world bully. Lets keep the playing field fair and see what happens.

Well all I will say is Iran is not quite as bad as North Korea as of yet, and China are still friends with those boys. Will take a lot more than a bit of international pressure to stop China milking that cash cow.

Whoops wrong Iran thread .

On this topic... as soon as the US/Israel convinced the UN to sanction and contain Iran, they made it pretty apparent that they (US/UN )don't want peace.

They want a lapdog...maybe they should call Paris.

Originally posted by maybereal11
reply to post by SLAYER69

 

... We still have enough nukes to obliterate the world over...

If you don't mind, I'd like to see the facts and figures that lead you to that erroneous conclusion. Perhaps I can point out the flaw in the logic.

Originally posted by nenothtu

Originally posted by maybereal11
reply to post by SLAYER69

 

... We still have enough nukes to obliterate the world over...

If you don't mind, I'd like to see the facts and figures that lead you to that erroneous conclusion. Perhaps I can point out the flaw in the logic.

Last count 5,113 Nuclear warheads Active or in reserve...As of 3 months ago.
www.businessweek.com...

Two relatively low-yield bombs defeated Japan...and most agree the second one was unneccessary.

reply to post by SLAYER69


Slayer, Russia saus it has suspended sales to Iran, but how many already made it through to them? Also do you think Russia sold them the blueprints? IF russia had already delivered some to Iran do you think it is possible for them to reverse engineering them?

Originally posted by maybereal11

Originally posted by nenothtu

Originally posted by maybereal11
reply to post by SLAYER69

 

... We still have enough nukes to obliterate the world over...

If you don't mind, I'd like to see the facts and figures that lead you to that erroneous conclusion. Perhaps I can point out the flaw in the logic.

Last count 5,113 Nuclear warheads Active or in reserve...As of 3 months ago.
www.businessweek.com...

Two relatively low-yield bombs defeated Japan...and most agree the second one was unneccessary.

And you think that the US can use nuclear weapons again against any nation and win? In case you haven't noticed, we just spent the last 65 years in a MAD world; If the US is stupid enough to use nuclear weapons in hostility again then the world will be against them. But then again, the American warmongering government doesn't give a crap about morals and humanity, just the acquirement of wealth, resources and territory.

reply to post by peck420


Nobody wants a lapdance I mean lapdog.

I have seen efforts by the West to hear out Iran on what it wants and their concerns. However, when it comes to formulating an agreement on their nuclear program, they tend to throw a wrench in it at the last moment? Then again, the Iranian Regime reaches out to the portion of the international community that is at odds with their intentions for its nuclear program and makes a half-ditch effort at communications and an effort toward transparency. Then some virulent remark is said or Iran just backs out altogether, and then merry go round continues with each poking daggers at the other. As a result, there is still no settlement between the Regime and those opposed to their actions. As this matter remains unsolved and made to fester as each side is positioning military hardware and personnel in the Middle East; war as a legitimate option remains on the table as a viable response.

I think Iran is making every effort to test the resolve of those in he West they are at odds with. They are taking the page right out of the book from the North Koreans who made the bomb under everyone's noses as negotiations were taking with them and the major world powers. As soon as the Iranians get a working weapon, it will foster timidity and apathy from the international community as it has with North Korea after they successfully tested their first atomic bomb in 2006. No one wants to risk a military operation that could go nuclear.

Therefore, North Korea is allowed to do what it has up to this point with little to no punishment by the international community. Iran will find themselves in a similar position once they get their hands on the bomb, and will be a position to exert more influence in the Middle East and elsewhere if they so choose. Just as North Korea was able to pacify the West during the negotiations before getting the bomb, the Iranians are doing the same. We are seeing stalling efforts taking place with President, Mahmoud Ahmadenijad, making another appearance before the UN this week. With every appearance on western media networks or at universities, he is giving the illusion that he and his government are open to talks and making an agreement. However, I think all his appearances at the UN and other places of importance are smoking mirrors. Chances are, they are working feverishly on making the bomb as their President is in New York making every effort to pacify concerns from the international community and buying the much needed time to continue their efforts in the future.

You believe this hype that Iran is trying to make nukes..

Don't you people learn anything?

Iraq was making nukes and WMD also, remember? How that work out.....

Ya Iran is not making anything they are trying to make nuclear power so they can have better living.. We are allowed to have nuclear power and they cant..

Maybe some of us should search ATS and look for a post that tallks about this.. It states something along the lines that Iran is trying to make nuclear power not weapons.. For it to be weapons the uranium that is needed is like 90% pure or something.. And the crap they are using is like 3%..

Oh well Listen to what the media tells ya because it got us this far..

Originally posted by ThichHeaded
You believe this hype that Iran is trying to make nukes..

Don't you people learn anything?

I haven't mentioned anything about NUKES.
Iran just needs to follow international law and cooperate is all.

Originally posted by SLAYER69

Originally posted by ThichHeaded
You believe this hype that Iran is trying to make nukes..

Don't you people learn anything?

I haven't mentioned anything about NUKES.
Iran just needs to follow international law and cooperate is all.

I have seen nothing but cooperation and the following of international law on Iran's part. How can you say this when both the US and Israel, the two hostile elements in the Middle East, clearly ignore international law whenever it suits them?

reply to post by SLAYER69


Demanding Iran hold to international law or even just simple diplomacy is a double standard considering the unlawful actions of Israel.

Originally posted by Witness2008
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Demanding Iran hold to international law or even just simple diplomacy is a double standard considering the unlawful actions of Israel.

True, however this is a case about Iran.
Israel should be dealt with I agree.

reply to post by Dimitri Dzengalshlevi


I am so fed up with these Anti anything but Israel attitudes. The Western countries are nothing but Israels attack dogs in the region. The christian right and the Jewish lobby have us on a short leash.