Extra-Terrestrial Installation in Dulce, New Mexico

First of all, I'd like to say that I do believe in aliens. I do believe in the roswell incident but saying that humans communicate and transfer information with ET's? Thats ridiculus. This dulce thing is kinda fishy although keeping both parts of the possible truth is a must. What if Roswell was made up and was a top secret Russian aircraft? Or American at that. The government has so much secret technology its unbelievable. In fact I read the other day on Spacewars.com that the U.S. and China have created invisiblility technology and that just goes to show that anything is possible. Now the other side... What if Dulce is real? What if Roswell was real and we used the alien aircraft to make the B2 bomber(mysteriously looks like it could be ET designed)? I believe that aliens do abduct people and conduct experiements so they know our capabilities and weaknesses. My belief is that they watch us to see what technology we create so if we happen to make something that is useful to them, they can take the technology. Ever wonder why aliens are alot of times spotted by fighter jets and near missile sights? The Dulce secret base could very well host recovered alien technology and carcases but using common sense I doubt they have 18,000 aliens there, or even live aliens. Otherwise, it couldn't be so secret. How are a few hundred people going to cage that many aliens(who must have extremely advanced technology in order to get here from where ever)? Wouldn't other aliens try to rescue them? I personaly think that the Government has no idea what to do in the event of an Alien contact and would automaticaly get us all killed by taking the contact as a hostile action and attempt to kill them. Its just the same as if a random person walked into your house and you wanted to protect your family. You would take action.

Originally posted by LaBella
No way. Im not saying that at all. I believe something is definatey going on there. But I dont think its above Archuleta...I mean its supposedly underground. I just dont think its going to be that obvious.

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I think the only tie to Archuletta is the stories of craft lowering themselves into the hills, but those don't hold too much water at all. No one would fly their top secret aircraft over a town. It's way more professionla that that. So I agree with you.

Originally posted by White Knight
Greetings All

Interesting information about Dulce. On another thread in this section I responded to a challenge about Dulce stating that if time permits I am going to take a detour to Dulce during my annual vacation in which I drive cross country from Grand Rapids to Seattle then to Arizona and then back to Grand Rapids. The last several years I have taken different routes and this year I am hoping to have time to visit Dulce for my self.

I am planning to leave on August 9th and returning at the end of August and beginning of September.

If I do make it to Dulce I will report what if anything I was able to see.

Peace

White Knight

guess that's the last we heard from HIM......

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I'm going to try and make it to that little UFO Convention they're having at the Best Western Inn in Dulce. A few friends of mine are pretty into the Dulce lore, and we live in the same state, so why not?

It's pretty up in the air at the moment, BUT, I'll be sure to post about it in this thread or make a new one afterwards.

Also, R.I.P. to our M.I.A. Dulce investigator. Hope he's not residing in Nightmare Hall now.

reply to post by Ischyros
well that would be the best type of cover up wouldn't it to put the truth out there in a factious setting lets say there really the avp types of aliens on earth the best way to hide something is in plain sight after all so they put it in the media so that anyone who says any thing they can just say well obviously he's scitso and just watched that movie and is imaging all of it and that's probably the reason the worlds governments have been able to keep it so quite so easy

reply to post by Ischyros
well that would be the best type of cover up wouldn't it to put the truth out there in a factious setting lets say there really the avp types of aliens on earth the best way to hide something is in plain sight after all so they put it in the media so that anyone who says any thing they can just say well obviously he's scitso and just watched that movie and is imaging all of it and that's probably the reason the worlds governments have been able to keep it so quite so easy

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Why would an alien race just play with us and experiment on us and not just take over? I feel that if they have the means to control what we do then why stop short of total control of the planet. We have no means to confront them on their world or even know where they come from so why are they just letting us be? In the past how do we know they have not destroyed such civilizations as Sodom and Gomorrah or the empires of the past that they deemed unfit. Why does the government feel the need to keep it secret unless it benefits a select few who run everything from behind the scenes. I have always believed that we are not alone in the vastness of space but it makes no sense that if there are others visiting this planet for them to see we have no way to defend it against a large scale attack.

I know in the past when the government had more control over the people of this country it was easy to dismiss such things because you took the government for their word and never questioned it. Now however with the advances in technology over the past 100 years or so the government has moved away from bullying and gone to a pacifying approach to distract the masses. News outlets have been told to dumb down the news given and concentrate on reporting such things that are trivial like Britney Spears and her latest exploits. Misinformation or even hiding the truth in plain site have become a common tool for the government so they can conduct business as usual without much resistance. Area 51 and other such secret installations have been acknowledged to exist but only in a non confirmed status. We as a people have been told time and again that aliens do not exist and religion has been pushed into our faces to reaffirm that information.

I believe that we have been manipulated into the era we are in because it suits a devious purpose for those who are pulling the strings. As a world we have taken a huge step in the last 100 years from the horse and buggy to space exploration. I am baffled as to how we made such a huge jump forward when there were other societies in the past that were almost more advanced and they never made the jump. Instead they were passed by and fell into obscurity without a second look. Could it be that our evolution of thought had to be manipulated so we could create and understand the technology we have today?

In the aftermath it could come down to the fact that we were just a means to an end for survival. If we were created by another race to be experimented on and used to further another humanoid species maybe there is hope we can break away and help ourselves later on. Maybe it comes down to something simple such as our planet being used as a study to see the continuing evolution of the human animal or it could be something as complicated as earth being used as a last defense against a common foe. Either way we are still being kept in the dark as to why they are here and what they hope to gain.

I hope that either way we are let in on the secret as to the why and what role we play before it becomes to late. If a shadow government is responsible for the different occurrences that have been witnessed over the years by various people it should dawn on them that if they wish to survive they will eventually have to let all be known to the rest of us. Secrets kept that only benefit a select few will only go so far before it is realized that they were wrong to do so in the first place. It is up to those of us that believe there is a real threat from the stars to keep digging and show that threat for what it really is. We have to show the rest of those around us that anything found to be alien could potentially be a threat. It is time to expose the lies given to us for what they really are and to do something about it.

Originally posted by LiquidSun
Also, R.I.P. to our M.I.A. Dulce investigator. Hope he's not residing in Nightmare Hall now.

Perhaps he went to work at the base. Semi-voluntarily....
It saddens me that people think they can just jot on down to a military/gov high security facility incorporated with ALIENS; expecting to trot on back as if it's something on the safety level of a PBS puppet show or Little House on the Praire episode.

It saddens me. I still admire the thing.

It seems, that camera's would be out in a five mile radius and anyone would well be seen in advance. Why wouldn't they be.

Still-I'd like to think that the passionate investigator would have been viewed as an asset and assimilated opposed to 'Nightmare halled'.

America used to perform labotomies too--maybe in the way of sanity, Nightmare hall too was a learning curve, fallen wayside and brushed under the dusty carpet of big Whoopsies.

God rest him.

[edit on 3-3-2009 by HugmyRek]

Originally posted by LiquidSun
I'm going to try and make it to that little UFO Convention they're having at the Best Western Inn in Dulce. A few friends of mine are pretty into the Dulce lore, and we live in the same state, so why not?

I am so glad, LiquidSun, that you will participate in the upcoming Dulce convention on March 29. Yes, it will be a very fascinating gathering. It will take place on Sunday, March 29 at the Best Western Jicarilla Inn in Dulce. Not only will there be key speakers (such as Greg Bishop, Dennis Balthaser and Michael E. Salla) but also the local residents of Dulce will be giving some testimonies. In fact, Hoyt Velarde, formerly with the Dulce police, will come and participate. There will be another former Dulce police officer who will also testify.
We will also open it up to anyone who would like to give testimonies. Anyway, LiquidSun, we will see you in Dulce.

Anybody think maybe we aren't so severly outgunned by the supposed aliens?

I would reckon, if there is intelligent life in the universe, humans are among the most devious and confrontational bunch of them all. I can totally imagine, aliens having a strong desire to take this place over while we have some trump card. Maybe we have a virus than can annihilate them, or maybe we captured the crown prince of Planet X (while he was on his teenage binge drinking trip in the skies of New Mexico, he got a little too hammered) or whatever may you.

I can imagine our governments strategically pitting alien races against each other. I can see us building nuclear weapons at an alarming rate as threat that we can destroy this planet so no one can use it. And who knows--who says our weapons wouldn't be effective against them. The VietCong fought us with bows and arrows--We fought the British with no real Army--Al Queda did great harm to this nation with no appreciable weaponry. Heck, I think we would be more stubborn than cockroaches in an invasion. And I think like cockroaches, we'd be one of the only things left after a nuclear war. I know its silly to quote movies, but look at Independence Day--really out there--but hey, humans are resilient creatures--and the assumption that the supposed aliens are infinitely intelligent and technologically superior sounds like a religious belief to me. I am not going to bow to any alien. Nope. He can try to kill me--but there is no gurantee he will.

Here is what I think, NO WAY!! For that base to be possible there would have to have been at one point back then an extremely large digging/mining project going on, seeing as how dulce, NM has been around since the early 1900s and the base would have been built in the 1950s there is no way they could have accomplished that on sacred land without someone noticing. On top of that and although "hide in plain site" is usually a good method, for military bases of that caliber it is not. If saucers are launching from somewhere they have to open a door, and being on land that anyone could go if they really wanted to cause of lack of security, someone would have seen something. Makes no sense. Also many geologists would have probably picked up something that large underground in such an accessible place.

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umm... I think its 9 levels.

Makes me wonder if any of those Aliens went to work at the new Jicarilla Apache casino? When I'm there this weekend I'll have to ask?

Seriously I grew up there and I never saw anything at the suspected site... However Crow Canyon just off the Largo river... now that place is just creepy... Take the dirt road north from counselors trading post to reach the spot about 6 miles of rough dirt roads... once your sure your lost your probably there

Now that's the spot I would begin a UFO hunt

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The way I sort of understand things based on older stories is that the night the Roswell craft was hit, the second one that was hit veered off towards Archuletta Flats and ended up near that other ranch, but was in a lot worse shape.

These ships getting "hit" supposedly happened at White Sands. I don't know about truth of it, but that's the way I understand it.

Then it seems that it was these two craft along with two others that led to the discovery of an underground living area in near Dulce.



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We seem to assume that 'smart' robots would take over the world? WHat if all the ED-209's got togehter and decided to go on a killing spree?

Why grown people believe in this stuff I have no idea.

that is incredible!
I just posted in another thread the original report o Dr Salla based on witnesses. exopolitics.org...

How is possible the United Nations to stay calm in front of such atrocity performed in a secret US base by entities that are not even humans?
How is possible organizations like Helsinki Human Watch International etc do not do anything at least for an inquiry? How is possible the Vatican and the other churches to stay silent and calm? That is not a private US matter. If it is a private matter, if Obama claims so, it means US are in contract with those non-human entities to do their bio-experiments at the expence of all of us! Second Hitler, or even more! We will not wait calmly until we are eaten by those monsters, will we? Sorry for my emotion, but I can't sit down quietly while reading all of that stuff! dinosaur-human, oh my God! Do you want your kid to be a dino with 3 heads?

Ran across a very interesting link here with with many chapters regarding the Dulce, New Mexico underground base:

www.thewatcherfiles.com...

Hello everyone I to am planing to take a trip to dulce base to do some poking around with a team of friends all of us former military soldiers. We will try our best to get information and pic of anything we find that might be useful.

But what I'm asking everyone is there anyone out there with more info of where to start looking. We plan on usesing everything that the military has trained us to do to try and locate the base and try to gain access if its possible to get more proff of the base and the aliens that live there. If everything is ture then these are the people we should be at war with not our own kind.

If anyone has any information that might help I would really like the help.

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I'm afraid it is even more sinister than even you think. Those aren't "aliens" but the grigori - the fallen watchers told of in Genesis 6 and the Book of Enoch. As prophecied in Amos 9:2, the illuminati and MJ-12 dug them back up from their places of punishment in Dudael (2 Peter 2:4 / Jude 6) with the help of people like Phil Schneider. Phil was murdered for talking too much to the public. Sadly, he went to his early grave thinking he had dug up sulfur wreaking "aliens" from deep, random pockets all over the deserts of the South Western United States. These D.U.M.B.s all over the world are for three purposes:
1.Shelter during depopulation and when the Tribulation gets very bad especially during the last 3 1/2 years.
2.Evil men are working alongside the grigori building the anti-Christ's army with suppressed technology that will soon amaze and frighten the entire world.
3.The grigori ( or igigi) are up to their old tricks and remaking a new brood of Nephilim children(what the Greeks called Titans) under the guise of "alien abduction".

To see an ancient depiction of the grigori (greys), Google Image:
dogu + jomon

Get right with the Lord now and DO NOT take any of the RFID location trackers/money like RFID REAL IDs, implantable PositiveID/verichips, nor Somark tattoos!
Remember we already know who wins in the end .
God bless you all and and stay strong in courage and faith.
Strength and honor.

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